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<blockquote data-quote="Tejwant Singh" data-source="post: 112747" data-attributes="member: 138"><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Jitinder ji,</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Guru Fateh.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Let me start by saying that you have an interesting user's name what we call in the Hip Hop music that you are a good Dawg- of Ik Ong Kaar, as most of us try to be.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Allow me to pitch in on the verses you have mentioned above. I agree with you that it is important and a must rather to distinguish between Shabad and Naam and you have given a great Shabad to discuss about it.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">First a bit of back ground about Tirath, Pilgrimages.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">As a student of Gurbani you must be aware that Pilgrimages are the cornerstone of two main religions of that time which were prevalent in India and still are Hinduism and Islam. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">As a matter of fact Pilgrimage is also as important in other 2 Semitic religions including Islam that are Judaism and Christianity, especially in Catholicism. For the Catholics, visiting Rome is a kind of must.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">All Jews from all around the world have the desire to go to Jerusalem in Israel and visit the Wailing Wall and leave a prayer there hoping that their God would read it and hence, fulfill what they asked for in a piece of paper.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Hindus have multiple places to go and "wash" their sins. Muslims must go at least once in their lifetime to Mecca for the same and stone the "Devil".</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">So, these mechanical rituals were created by the honchos of these dogmatic religions which are based on subjective truths like Hell and Heaven for only one purpose and that purpose is to have a feel good aura about oneself when one becomes a mechanical pilgrim to these places.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">In other words, a great recipe for Me-ism. Nothing more.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Guru Nanak taught us that feeling good is OK, but it is a waste of time if one does not generate good actions after feeling good in a kinetic manner so that goodness can be generated within and then shared with others- which is the cornerstone of Sikhi.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">So, pilgrimage is a personal experience that all the pilgrims go through. Some claim more miracles than the others on these voyages of theirs.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Now let us get back to the verses you have posted.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">qIriQ nwvx jwau qIrQu nwmu hY ]</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">th<strong><span style="color: #080088">ee</span></strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">rathh n<strong><span style="color: #080088">aa</span></strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">van j<strong><span style="color: #080088">aa</span></strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">o th<strong><span style="color: #080088">ee</span></strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">rathh n<strong><span style="color: #080088">aa</span></strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">m h<strong><span style="color: #080088">ai</span></strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> ||</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Why should I bathe at sacred shrines of pilgrimage? The Naam, the Name of the Lord, is the sacred shrine of pilgrimage.</em></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Naam is the experience that I go through, Guru Sahib is saying.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Now the question arises, how can one have this experience of Naam?</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The next verse explains it beautifully how this experience of Naam is attained.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">qIrQu sbd bIcwru AMqir igAwnu hY ]</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">th<strong><span style="color: #080088">ee</span></strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">rathh sabadh b<strong><span style="color: #080088">ee</span></strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">ch<strong><span style="color: #080088">aa</span></strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">r a(n)thar g<strong><span style="color: #080088">iaa</span></strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">n h<strong><span style="color: #080088">ai</span></strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> ||</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>My sacred shrine of pilgrimage is spiritual wisdom within, and contemplation on the Word of the Shabad.</em></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Only by doing Shabad Vichaar one can cultivate the wisdom about IK Ong Kaar within. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">So, how do we do Shabad Vichaar to attain the experience of Naam which is the true pilgrimage?</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">By breeding goodness with in.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">What is the modus operandi for that?</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">By understanding Gurbani and putting its tools into practice we can breed goodness within and then we as Sikhs morph into the flowers of the garden of Ik Ong kaar which emit their scent in all directions sans bias.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">This person becomes the true pilgrim and experiences the pilgrimage 24-7.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Give me a few days and then I will be able to share with you the whole Shabad the way it comes to me from the within.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Regards</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Tejwant Singh</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tejwant Singh, post: 112747, member: 138"] [FONT=Verdana][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Jitinder ji,[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Guru Fateh.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Let me start by saying that you have an interesting user's name what we call in the Hip Hop music that you are a good Dawg- of Ik Ong Kaar, as most of us try to be.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Allow me to pitch in on the verses you have mentioned above. I agree with you that it is important and a must rather to distinguish between Shabad and Naam and you have given a great Shabad to discuss about it.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]First a bit of back ground about Tirath, Pilgrimages.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]As a student of Gurbani you must be aware that Pilgrimages are the cornerstone of two main religions of that time which were prevalent in India and still are Hinduism and Islam. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]As a matter of fact Pilgrimage is also as important in other 2 Semitic religions including Islam that are Judaism and Christianity, especially in Catholicism. For the Catholics, visiting Rome is a kind of must.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]All Jews from all around the world have the desire to go to Jerusalem in Israel and visit the Wailing Wall and leave a prayer there hoping that their God would read it and hence, fulfill what they asked for in a piece of paper.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Hindus have multiple places to go and "wash" their sins. Muslims must go at least once in their lifetime to Mecca for the same and stone the "Devil".[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]So, these mechanical rituals were created by the honchos of these dogmatic religions which are based on subjective truths like Hell and Heaven for only one purpose and that purpose is to have a feel good aura about oneself when one becomes a mechanical pilgrim to these places.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]In other words, a great recipe for Me-ism. Nothing more.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Guru Nanak taught us that feeling good is OK, but it is a waste of time if one does not generate good actions after feeling good in a kinetic manner so that goodness can be generated within and then shared with others- which is the cornerstone of Sikhi.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]So, pilgrimage is a personal experience that all the pilgrims go through. Some claim more miracles than the others on these voyages of theirs.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Now let us get back to the verses you have posted.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]qIriQ nwvx jwau qIrQu nwmu hY ][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]th[B][COLOR=#080088]ee[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][FONT=Verdana]rathh n[B][COLOR=#080088]aa[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][FONT=Verdana]van j[B][COLOR=#080088]aa[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][FONT=Verdana]o th[B][COLOR=#080088]ee[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][FONT=Verdana]rathh n[B][COLOR=#080088]aa[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][FONT=Verdana]m h[B][COLOR=#080088]ai[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][FONT=Verdana] ||[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][I]Why should I bathe at sacred shrines of pilgrimage? The Naam, the Name of the Lord, is the sacred shrine of pilgrimage.[/I][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Naam is the experience that I go through, Guru Sahib is saying.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Now the question arises, how can one have this experience of Naam?[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]The next verse explains it beautifully how this experience of Naam is attained.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]qIrQu sbd bIcwru AMqir igAwnu hY ][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]th[B][COLOR=#080088]ee[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][FONT=Verdana]rathh sabadh b[B][COLOR=#080088]ee[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][FONT=Verdana]ch[B][COLOR=#080088]aa[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][FONT=Verdana]r a(n)thar g[B][COLOR=#080088]iaa[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][FONT=Verdana]n h[B][COLOR=#080088]ai[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][FONT=Verdana] ||[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][I]My sacred shrine of pilgrimage is spiritual wisdom within, and contemplation on the Word of the Shabad.[/I][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Only by doing Shabad Vichaar one can cultivate the wisdom about IK Ong Kaar within. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]So, how do we do Shabad Vichaar to attain the experience of Naam which is the true pilgrimage?[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]By breeding goodness with in.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]What is the modus operandi for that?[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]By understanding Gurbani and putting its tools into practice we can breed goodness within and then we as Sikhs morph into the flowers of the garden of Ik Ong kaar which emit their scent in all directions sans bias.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]This person becomes the true pilgrim and experiences the pilgrimage 24-7.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Give me a few days and then I will be able to share with you the whole Shabad the way it comes to me from the within.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Regards[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Tejwant Singh[/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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