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<blockquote data-quote="spnadmin" data-source="post: 112725" data-attributes="member: 35"><p>Actually jitinder ji</p><p></p><p>I agree with you. And I disagree with you. In my own humble opinion there are distinctions however subtle. Naam and Shabad are synonymous, but is that the same as "equal in meaning?" Does not Naam mean more than name, but identity as well? Naam, the Identity of Truth, the Almighty Power, the timeless and eternal Truth, the indestructible and formless, all pervading Truth, the Truth that is self-existent. It could be that Naam embraces everything including Bani and Shabad. Shabad is what is spoken, read and heard of Truth speaking the Truth. Then, in that way they are also the same. Let's think about it, think out loud.</p><p></p><p>I have added since last posting this. The translation of the tuk adds to what is actually there. It is the theory of the translator that Naam is Name, when in fact it can/may go beyond the meaning, Name.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">qIriQ nwvx jwau qIrQu nwmu hY ]</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> th<span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span></span>rathh n<span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span></span>van j<span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span></span>o th<span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span></span>rathh n<span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span></span>m h<span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #080088"><strong>ai</strong></span></span> ||</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><em>Why should I bathe at sacred shrines of pilgrimage? The Naam, the Name of the Lord, is the sacred shrine of pilgrimage</em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><em></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><em></em></span></span> With the translation creating the equation between Naam and Name of the Lord. Thanks for your input.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spnadmin, post: 112725, member: 35"] Actually jitinder ji I agree with you. And I disagree with you. In my own humble opinion there are distinctions however subtle. Naam and Shabad are synonymous, but is that the same as "equal in meaning?" Does not Naam mean more than name, but identity as well? Naam, the Identity of Truth, the Almighty Power, the timeless and eternal Truth, the indestructible and formless, all pervading Truth, the Truth that is self-existent. It could be that Naam embraces everything including Bani and Shabad. Shabad is what is spoken, read and heard of Truth speaking the Truth. Then, in that way they are also the same. Let's think about it, think out loud. I have added since last posting this. The translation of the tuk adds to what is actually there. It is the theory of the translator that Naam is Name, when in fact it can/may go beyond the meaning, Name. [FONT=GurbaniWebThick][SIZE=4]qIriQ nwvx jwau qIrQu nwmu hY ] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] th[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#080088][B]ee[/B][/COLOR][/FONT]rathh n[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR][/FONT]van j[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR][/FONT]o th[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#080088][B]ee[/B][/COLOR][/FONT]rathh n[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#080088][B]aa[/B][/COLOR][/FONT]m h[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#080088][B]ai[/B][/COLOR][/FONT] || [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][I]Why should I bathe at sacred shrines of pilgrimage? The Naam, the Name of the Lord, is the sacred shrine of pilgrimage [/I][/SIZE][/FONT] With the translation creating the equation between Naam and Name of the Lord. Thanks for your input. [/QUOTE]
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