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<blockquote data-quote="Gurmit Singh" data-source="post: 137302" data-attributes="member: 7784"><p><strong>Re: Saas Giraas Simran: What is the historical evidence? (blog of Harisimrat Kaur)</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">In respect of the subject matter, it is my humble request that we should read and try to</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">comprehend Shabd as incorporated in the Guru Granth Sahib. As we all know, Granth</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Sahib was compiled, editted and completed by Guru Arjan Sahib in August 1604 and</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">thereafter by adding Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib's Shabds, Guru Gobind Singh Sahib</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">had declared it as Guru Granth Sahib well before breathing his last on 7 October 1708.</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Hence, there is no need to look into the exact date or year in which any particular</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Shabd was uttered and where. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Bhai Randhir Singh was born on 7 July 1878, remained in jail for sixteen years from</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">1915 to 1930 and expired on 16 April 1961. He was thus not associated with the</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">compilation of Gurbaani.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">There are several Shabds in respect of Saas Saas Simron Gobind, Saas Graas</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">and accordingly, we need to understand the gist of all Shabds so as to practice</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">in life with devotion and humility.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">At page 1148, under Bairou Mahla 5, Guru Arjan Sahib says that this human body</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">has been blessed to us by the Almighty God and accordingly, this life could be</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">made successful by reciting the True Naam. By virtue of Guru Nanak Sahib's</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Divine Wisdom, Guru Arjan Sahib says that by God's Grace, we should continue</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">to recite the True Naam with each breath and while taking each morsel of </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">food. </span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">(4-29-42). </span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">It would mean that whole life from birth to demise, person </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">should remain attuned </span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">with God, and lead the life under Divine Command as a Sachiar/Gurmukh/Khalsa.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Similarly, at page 1375 - 1376, both the Saloaks 212 and 213 should be gone</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">through thougtfully -</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">212: Bhagat Trilochan asked Namdev, O my friend, you are engrossed in the</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff"> love of Maya (worldly falsehood), why are you busy in printing the cloth</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff"> with different prints instead of reciting the True Naam, with love </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">at heart?</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">213: Bhagat Namdev tells Trilochan that one should recite the True Naam with</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff"> tongue while the hands are busy at work, by keeping the arms </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">and feet </span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff"> busy in doing various worldly chores but with love and </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">devotion of the </span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff"> Almighty God at heart.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Although, I have never associated with their whole night congregations or</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">singing Asa Kee Vaar for 5-6 hours, it seems that the followers of akj have </span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">started </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">their own cult/sect and as such it is not binding on others, who wish </span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">to </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">obey Guru Granth Sahib for elevating their lives.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">I am sure that other participants will explain it better and thus, keep me</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">advised so that I may also gain from their experience and wisdom as well.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Gurmit Singh (Australia) </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gurmit Singh, post: 137302, member: 7784"] [b]Re: Saas Giraas Simran: What is the historical evidence? (blog of Harisimrat Kaur)[/b] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]In respect of the subject matter, it is my humble request that we should read and try to[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]comprehend Shabd as incorporated in the Guru Granth Sahib. As we all know, Granth[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]Sahib was compiled, editted and completed by Guru Arjan Sahib in August 1604 and[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]thereafter by adding Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib's Shabds, Guru Gobind Singh Sahib[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]had declared it as Guru Granth Sahib well before breathing his last on 7 October 1708.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]Hence, there is no need to look into the exact date or year in which any particular[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]Shabd was uttered and where. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]Bhai Randhir Singh was born on 7 July 1878, remained in jail for sixteen years from[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]1915 to 1930 and expired on 16 April 1961. He was thus not associated with the[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]compilation of Gurbaani.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]There are several Shabds in respect of Saas Saas Simron Gobind, Saas Graas[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]and accordingly, we need to understand the gist of all Shabds so as to practice[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]in life with devotion and humility.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]At page 1148, under Bairou Mahla 5, Guru Arjan Sahib says that this human body[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]has been blessed to us by the Almighty God and accordingly, this life could be[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]made successful by reciting the True Naam. By virtue of Guru Nanak Sahib's[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]Divine Wisdom, Guru Arjan Sahib says that by God's Grace, we should continue[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]to recite the True Naam with each breath and while taking each morsel of [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]food. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff](4-29-42). [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]It would mean that whole life from birth to demise, person [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]should remain attuned [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]with God, and lead the life under Divine Command as a Sachiar/Gurmukh/Khalsa.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]Similarly, at page 1375 - 1376, both the Saloaks 212 and 213 should be gone[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]through thougtfully -[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]212: Bhagat Trilochan asked Namdev, O my friend, you are engrossed in the[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff] love of Maya (worldly falsehood), why are you busy in printing the cloth[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff] with different prints instead of reciting the True Naam, with love [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]at heart?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]213: Bhagat Namdev tells Trilochan that one should recite the True Naam with[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff] tongue while the hands are busy at work, by keeping the arms [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]and feet [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff] busy in doing various worldly chores but with love and [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]devotion of the [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff] Almighty God at heart.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]Although, I have never associated with their whole night congregations or[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]singing Asa Kee Vaar for 5-6 hours, it seems that the followers of akj have [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]started [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]their own cult/sect and as such it is not binding on others, who wish [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]to [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]obey Guru Granth Sahib for elevating their lives.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]I am sure that other participants will explain it better and thus, keep me[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]advised so that I may also gain from their experience and wisdom as well.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]Gurmit Singh (Australia) [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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