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RSS (Badals' Cohorts) Article On Sikh Identity Highly Derogatory And Objectionable
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<blockquote data-quote="Archived_Member16" data-source="post: 119259" data-attributes="member: 884"><p>RSS (BADALS' COHORTS) article on Sikh identity highly derogatory and objectionable:</p><p></p><p>HARIMANDIR SAHIB, GOLDEN TEMPLE & THE HOLY CITY OF AMRITSAR</p><p></p><p>MY RECENT VISIT TO HARIMANDIR SAHIB AT THE GOLDEN TEMPLE, AMRITSAR TURNED OUT TO BE A UNIQUE AND MEMORABLE EXPERIENCE. THE TEMPLE IS A UNIQUE SHIVALAYA WITH AMRIT-KUND AS THE JALAHARI AND SHABAD BEING POURED CONTINUOUSLY AS THE JALA OVER THE HARIMANDIR SAHIB. IT WAS TRULY AN EXHILERATING EXPERIENCE TO BEHOLD THE PRACTICE PERFECTLY IN HARMONY WITH THE ANCIENT VEDIC WISDOM OF GURU’S PRECEPTS BEING THE DEITY, GUIDING DEVOTEES TO THE ULTIMATE REALITY OF PARAM BRAHMA.</p><p></p><p>DURING TWO DAYS THAT I SPENT THERE, I DEDICATED MY DEEP REVERENCE FOUR TIMES AT THE HARIMANDIR SAHIB, ACCEPTED KARAA-PRASAD SEVERAL TIMES, DECLINED & RETURNED THE LANGAR-PRASAD DUE TO PRESENCE OF ONION AND GARLIC ( INSTEAD, I ACCEPTED KHEER WITH DEEP REVERENCE ! ), VISITED SIKH-MUSEUM AND CAME OUT WITH BAD VIBES IN MY MIND…</p><p></p><p>WILL ANY ERUDITE SIKH SCHOLAR ANSWER MY FOLLOWING QUESTIONS TO ENLIGHTEN ME FORTHWITH, WITHOUT RESORTING TO RECRIMINATION AND HOSTILE ABUSES –</p><p></p><p>ONION & GARLIC ARE CONSIDERED AS TAMASIK / IMPURE FOODS, PROHIBITED IN PRASAD EVERYWHERE. THESE ARE NOT PERMITTED EVEN DURING ‘SHRAADDHA’. WHY IS IT BEING ADDED TO THE LANGAR-PRASAD AT THE GOLDEN TEMPLE ? SOME OF MY FRIENDS TELL ME, EARLIER THESE WERE NOT USED AT THE LANGAR AT ALL, IF THEY ARE CORRECT. THEN WHY IS IT NOT BEING DONE AWAY WITH IMMEDIATELY ?</p><p></p><p>GURU IS ALWAYS A MEANS TO THE ULTIMATE TRUTH. THAT IS WHAT GURU’S WISDOM i.e. SHABAD, GURU-MANTRA, GITA-JNANA etc. IS ALL ABOUT. WHATEVER SHABAD I HEARD OVER THERE WITH RAPT ATTENTION, IS ALL ABOUT RAM, GOVINDA AND SHIVA. THEN WHY SIKHS CALL THEMSELVES A SEPARATE RELIGION ? AND SEPARATE RACE TOO ! WHAT DO YOU UNDERSTAND BY 'SEPARATE RACE' ?? WHY DO THEY CALL THEMSELVES MONOTHEISTIC ? IN WHAT WAY ARE THEY MONOTHEISTIC ? THEN WHY DO THEY SCOFF AT WORSHIPPING RAM, GOVINDA AND SHIVA IN TEMPLES ? IF YOU ARE INCESSANTLY RECITING GLORIES OF RAM, GOVINDA AND SHIVA IN GURUMUKHI IN GURUDWARAS, THEN WHY ARE YOU AVERSE TO VISITING HINDU TEMPLES IN LARGE NUMBERS ON REGULAR BASIS ? RAM, GOVINDA WERE NOT ORDINARY HUMAN BEINGS. THEY WERE REAL LIFE INCARNATES OF THE SAME 'ISHVARA' WHO IS WORSHIPPED THROUGH THE 'SHABADS'. SWAMI RAMAKRISHNA PARAMHAMSA IS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE. WHEN YOUR ROOTS ARE SO DEEPLY ENTRENCHED AMONG HINDUS, THEN WHY SO MUCH HOSTILITY TOWARDS HINDUS ?? HOW IS THAT SIKHS DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE 'RAMJANMABHUMI MOVEMENT' ? THEN FOR LIBERATION OF 'KRISHNAJANMABHUMI' AS WELL AS KASHI VISHVANATHJI ? DO YOU SIKHS BELIEVE, YOU CAN SURVIVE AND FLOURISH WITHOUT HINDUS ?? DO YOU SIKHS BELIEVE THAT SIKHISM CAN SURVIVE IN ABSENCE OF HINDUISM ?? I DO UNDERSTAND SIKH HOSTILITY TOWARDS CONGRESS BUT CONGRESS DO NOT REPRESENT HINDUS. THEY REPRESENT EVERYBODY / ANYBODY EXCEPT HINDUS.</p><p></p><p>THEN I DID A LONG AND CONTEMPLATIVE SOJOURN THROUGH THE SO-CALLED SIKH MUSEUM. DON’T YOU FIND IT EMBARRASSING TO NAME IT ‘SIKH MUSEUM’, MEANING THEREBY, ‘SIKHS IN MUSEUM’ ?? WHY SHOULD IT NOT BE CALLED ‘MARTYR’S GALLERY’ INSTEAD ?</p><p></p><p>SACRIFICES WROUGHT BY THEM ARE SPLENDID, INCOMPARABLE AND WE ALL ARE DEEPLY INDEBTED TO THOSE GREAT SOULS.TODAY WE ALL ARE ENJOYING OUR FREEDOM OWING TO THE GREAT SACRIFICES DONE BY SO MANY OF US IN THE PAST.</p><p></p><p>HOW COULD YOU DECLARE JARNAIL SINGH BHINDERWALA, BALWANT SINGH, SATWANT SINGH AND KEHAR SINGH AS MARTYRS ? BHINDERWALA DID ALL SORTS OF NEFARIOUS ACTIVITIES WHICH DEFILED THE HOLY PRECINCTS OF THE TEMPLE. THEN WHY DEIFY HIM AS A MARTYR ? HOW COULD SATWANT SINGH, BALWANT SINGH AND KEHAR SINGH BE CLASSIFIED AS MARTYRS WHO KILLED THEIR OWN PROTECTEE, AS HER BODYGAURDS ?? THAT TOO, AN UNARMED WOMAN ?? THAT TOO, A WIDOW ?? WHAT SORT OF MARTYROLOGY IS IT ? YOU DECLARED IT ‘REVENGE’ WITH A VENGEANCE IN THAT FOOTAGE. WHAT SORT OF REVENGE IS IT ?? IS REVENGE OUR DHARMA ?? IS IT THE WAY TO TAKE REVENGE ??</p><p></p><p>DESCRIPTION AS A FOOTAGE OF BHINDERWALA’S POTRAIT USES THE WORDS ‘BHARATIYA FAUJ’ !!! DOES NOT ‘BHARATIYA FAUJ’ BELONG TO THE ENTIRE SIKH COMMUNITY ? THIS IS THE SAME ‘BHARATIYA FAUJ’ THAT DID ‘KAR SEWA’ IN LARGE NUMBERS AFTER FACING BULLETS OF BHINDERWALA AND MAJ. GEN. SHUBEGH SINGH BAREFOOT, WITH MINIMUM RESISTANCE. THEN THEY DONATED HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY OUT OF THEIR SALARIES TO THE ‘AKAL TAKHT’. THERE ARE SO MANY MARBLE PLAQUES FIXED ALL OVER, DECLARING THEIR STERLING CONTRIBUTIONS IN REBUILDING THE TAKHT. THEN WHY THIS SENSE OF AVERSION, THEIR REVERENCE / DEDICATION BEING SNEERED AT THROUGH THE PHRASE ‘ BHARATIYA FAUJ’ ???</p><p></p><p>THEN TO MAINTAIN DISTANCE FROM HINDUISM, IT IS SAID THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONS TO THE ‘SGGS’ BY SOME ‘FAQUIRS’. LET ME TELL YOU WITH MAXIMUM CONVICTION AT MY COMMAND, NO MUSLIM ‘FAQUIR’ HAD BEEN A TRUE ‘FAQUIR’. THEY WERE ALL MUSLIMS, OUT TO DESTROY THE SO-CALLED ‘KAFIRS’ AND CONVERT THEM TO ISLAM. HOW IS THAT THOSE ADDITIONS HAVE NOT BEEN DELETED FROM THE ‘SGGS’ THOUGH I AM NO AUTHORITY ON THE SUBJECT ?? THAT TOO, AFTER SO MUCH OF TORTURE AND OPPRESSION BY THOSE MUGHAL BIGOTS AND DESPOTS UPON THOSE BRAVE HINDUS / SIKHS ??</p><p></p><p>THESE WERE THE QUESTIONS THAT RANKLED MY MIND WHILE DEPARTING FROM THE HOLY CITY OF AMRITSAR. AFTER HARIDWAR, UJJAIN, OMKARESHVARA, VARANASI AND TIRUPATI, IT WAS THE TURN OF THE HOLY CITY OF AMRITSAR TO IMPRESS ME AND WIN MY HEART & MIND.</p><p>WILL MY KHALSA BROTHERS EXPLAIN TO ME ON ALL THESE POINTS, ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS AND SETTING ALL THOSE DOUBTS AT REST ???</p><p></p><p>WITH MALICE, OFFENCE OR RANCOUR WHATSOEVER TOWARDS NONE, MAY I APPEAL TO THE SGPC / AKAL TAKHT TO BAN USE OF ONION & GARLIC AT THE LANGAR AND WITHDRAW POTRAITS OF BHINDERWALA, BALWANT SINGH, KEHAR SINGH AND SATWANT SINGH FROM THE MUSEUM ??</p><p></p><p>VANDE MAATARAM I</p><p>RAMAKANT TIWARI</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archived_Member16, post: 119259, member: 884"] RSS (BADALS' COHORTS) article on Sikh identity highly derogatory and objectionable: HARIMANDIR SAHIB, GOLDEN TEMPLE & THE HOLY CITY OF AMRITSAR MY RECENT VISIT TO HARIMANDIR SAHIB AT THE GOLDEN TEMPLE, AMRITSAR TURNED OUT TO BE A UNIQUE AND MEMORABLE EXPERIENCE. THE TEMPLE IS A UNIQUE SHIVALAYA WITH AMRIT-KUND AS THE JALAHARI AND SHABAD BEING POURED CONTINUOUSLY AS THE JALA OVER THE HARIMANDIR SAHIB. IT WAS TRULY AN EXHILERATING EXPERIENCE TO BEHOLD THE PRACTICE PERFECTLY IN HARMONY WITH THE ANCIENT VEDIC WISDOM OF GURU’S PRECEPTS BEING THE DEITY, GUIDING DEVOTEES TO THE ULTIMATE REALITY OF PARAM BRAHMA. DURING TWO DAYS THAT I SPENT THERE, I DEDICATED MY DEEP REVERENCE FOUR TIMES AT THE HARIMANDIR SAHIB, ACCEPTED KARAA-PRASAD SEVERAL TIMES, DECLINED & RETURNED THE LANGAR-PRASAD DUE TO PRESENCE OF ONION AND GARLIC ( INSTEAD, I ACCEPTED KHEER WITH DEEP REVERENCE ! ), VISITED SIKH-MUSEUM AND CAME OUT WITH BAD VIBES IN MY MIND… WILL ANY ERUDITE SIKH SCHOLAR ANSWER MY FOLLOWING QUESTIONS TO ENLIGHTEN ME FORTHWITH, WITHOUT RESORTING TO RECRIMINATION AND HOSTILE ABUSES – ONION & GARLIC ARE CONSIDERED AS TAMASIK / IMPURE FOODS, PROHIBITED IN PRASAD EVERYWHERE. THESE ARE NOT PERMITTED EVEN DURING ‘SHRAADDHA’. WHY IS IT BEING ADDED TO THE LANGAR-PRASAD AT THE GOLDEN TEMPLE ? SOME OF MY FRIENDS TELL ME, EARLIER THESE WERE NOT USED AT THE LANGAR AT ALL, IF THEY ARE CORRECT. THEN WHY IS IT NOT BEING DONE AWAY WITH IMMEDIATELY ? GURU IS ALWAYS A MEANS TO THE ULTIMATE TRUTH. THAT IS WHAT GURU’S WISDOM i.e. SHABAD, GURU-MANTRA, GITA-JNANA etc. IS ALL ABOUT. WHATEVER SHABAD I HEARD OVER THERE WITH RAPT ATTENTION, IS ALL ABOUT RAM, GOVINDA AND SHIVA. THEN WHY SIKHS CALL THEMSELVES A SEPARATE RELIGION ? AND SEPARATE RACE TOO ! WHAT DO YOU UNDERSTAND BY 'SEPARATE RACE' ?? WHY DO THEY CALL THEMSELVES MONOTHEISTIC ? IN WHAT WAY ARE THEY MONOTHEISTIC ? THEN WHY DO THEY SCOFF AT WORSHIPPING RAM, GOVINDA AND SHIVA IN TEMPLES ? IF YOU ARE INCESSANTLY RECITING GLORIES OF RAM, GOVINDA AND SHIVA IN GURUMUKHI IN GURUDWARAS, THEN WHY ARE YOU AVERSE TO VISITING HINDU TEMPLES IN LARGE NUMBERS ON REGULAR BASIS ? RAM, GOVINDA WERE NOT ORDINARY HUMAN BEINGS. THEY WERE REAL LIFE INCARNATES OF THE SAME 'ISHVARA' WHO IS WORSHIPPED THROUGH THE 'SHABADS'. SWAMI RAMAKRISHNA PARAMHAMSA IS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE. WHEN YOUR ROOTS ARE SO DEEPLY ENTRENCHED AMONG HINDUS, THEN WHY SO MUCH HOSTILITY TOWARDS HINDUS ?? HOW IS THAT SIKHS DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE 'RAMJANMABHUMI MOVEMENT' ? THEN FOR LIBERATION OF 'KRISHNAJANMABHUMI' AS WELL AS KASHI VISHVANATHJI ? DO YOU SIKHS BELIEVE, YOU CAN SURVIVE AND FLOURISH WITHOUT HINDUS ?? DO YOU SIKHS BELIEVE THAT SIKHISM CAN SURVIVE IN ABSENCE OF HINDUISM ?? I DO UNDERSTAND SIKH HOSTILITY TOWARDS CONGRESS BUT CONGRESS DO NOT REPRESENT HINDUS. THEY REPRESENT EVERYBODY / ANYBODY EXCEPT HINDUS. THEN I DID A LONG AND CONTEMPLATIVE SOJOURN THROUGH THE SO-CALLED SIKH MUSEUM. DON’T YOU FIND IT EMBARRASSING TO NAME IT ‘SIKH MUSEUM’, MEANING THEREBY, ‘SIKHS IN MUSEUM’ ?? WHY SHOULD IT NOT BE CALLED ‘MARTYR’S GALLERY’ INSTEAD ? SACRIFICES WROUGHT BY THEM ARE SPLENDID, INCOMPARABLE AND WE ALL ARE DEEPLY INDEBTED TO THOSE GREAT SOULS.TODAY WE ALL ARE ENJOYING OUR FREEDOM OWING TO THE GREAT SACRIFICES DONE BY SO MANY OF US IN THE PAST. HOW COULD YOU DECLARE JARNAIL SINGH BHINDERWALA, BALWANT SINGH, SATWANT SINGH AND KEHAR SINGH AS MARTYRS ? BHINDERWALA DID ALL SORTS OF NEFARIOUS ACTIVITIES WHICH DEFILED THE HOLY PRECINCTS OF THE TEMPLE. THEN WHY DEIFY HIM AS A MARTYR ? HOW COULD SATWANT SINGH, BALWANT SINGH AND KEHAR SINGH BE CLASSIFIED AS MARTYRS WHO KILLED THEIR OWN PROTECTEE, AS HER BODYGAURDS ?? THAT TOO, AN UNARMED WOMAN ?? THAT TOO, A WIDOW ?? WHAT SORT OF MARTYROLOGY IS IT ? YOU DECLARED IT ‘REVENGE’ WITH A VENGEANCE IN THAT FOOTAGE. WHAT SORT OF REVENGE IS IT ?? IS REVENGE OUR DHARMA ?? IS IT THE WAY TO TAKE REVENGE ?? DESCRIPTION AS A FOOTAGE OF BHINDERWALA’S POTRAIT USES THE WORDS ‘BHARATIYA FAUJ’ !!! DOES NOT ‘BHARATIYA FAUJ’ BELONG TO THE ENTIRE SIKH COMMUNITY ? THIS IS THE SAME ‘BHARATIYA FAUJ’ THAT DID ‘KAR SEWA’ IN LARGE NUMBERS AFTER FACING BULLETS OF BHINDERWALA AND MAJ. GEN. SHUBEGH SINGH BAREFOOT, WITH MINIMUM RESISTANCE. THEN THEY DONATED HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY OUT OF THEIR SALARIES TO THE ‘AKAL TAKHT’. THERE ARE SO MANY MARBLE PLAQUES FIXED ALL OVER, DECLARING THEIR STERLING CONTRIBUTIONS IN REBUILDING THE TAKHT. THEN WHY THIS SENSE OF AVERSION, THEIR REVERENCE / DEDICATION BEING SNEERED AT THROUGH THE PHRASE ‘ BHARATIYA FAUJ’ ??? THEN TO MAINTAIN DISTANCE FROM HINDUISM, IT IS SAID THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONS TO THE ‘SGGS’ BY SOME ‘FAQUIRS’. LET ME TELL YOU WITH MAXIMUM CONVICTION AT MY COMMAND, NO MUSLIM ‘FAQUIR’ HAD BEEN A TRUE ‘FAQUIR’. THEY WERE ALL MUSLIMS, OUT TO DESTROY THE SO-CALLED ‘KAFIRS’ AND CONVERT THEM TO ISLAM. HOW IS THAT THOSE ADDITIONS HAVE NOT BEEN DELETED FROM THE ‘SGGS’ THOUGH I AM NO AUTHORITY ON THE SUBJECT ?? THAT TOO, AFTER SO MUCH OF TORTURE AND OPPRESSION BY THOSE MUGHAL BIGOTS AND DESPOTS UPON THOSE BRAVE HINDUS / SIKHS ?? THESE WERE THE QUESTIONS THAT RANKLED MY MIND WHILE DEPARTING FROM THE HOLY CITY OF AMRITSAR. AFTER HARIDWAR, UJJAIN, OMKARESHVARA, VARANASI AND TIRUPATI, IT WAS THE TURN OF THE HOLY CITY OF AMRITSAR TO IMPRESS ME AND WIN MY HEART & MIND. WILL MY KHALSA BROTHERS EXPLAIN TO ME ON ALL THESE POINTS, ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS AND SETTING ALL THOSE DOUBTS AT REST ??? WITH MALICE, OFFENCE OR RANCOUR WHATSOEVER TOWARDS NONE, MAY I APPEAL TO THE SGPC / AKAL TAKHT TO BAN USE OF ONION & GARLIC AT THE LANGAR AND WITHDRAW POTRAITS OF BHINDERWALA, BALWANT SINGH, KEHAR SINGH AND SATWANT SINGH FROM THE MUSEUM ?? VANDE MAATARAM I RAMAKANT TIWARI [/QUOTE]
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