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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Gyani Jarnail Singh" data-source="post: 98493" data-attributes="member: 189"><p>This must surely be the final nail in the coffin of one liner quotes, selected with a purpose.</p><p>in my own words...if the "Janeau" was rubbished by Guru nanak ji..the REASON was the HYPOCRACY hiding behind the thread. The HYPOCRACY that a certian type of janeau was for a Brahmin..high class..another was for a Khatree..lower class..and yet another was for the shudras...the lowest of the Low....CREATING DIVISIONS..CLASSES..among EQUALS..BROTHERS...THAT is the ILLS Guur ji IDENTIFIED and RUBBISHED.</p><p>Guru nank ji also gave a DETAILED ACCOUNT of what exactly this HYPOCRACY is and how to avoid it.</p><p><u><strong>Guur nanak ji went DEEP</strong></u>..into the <u><strong>BACKGROUND</strong></u>..of the janeaus, the tilaks, the coconuts, the baths, the yatras...the what and whys of the WRONGS.</p><p>Then GURU JI accepts the "non-Hypocritical" Janeau...made exactly the WAY he wants.</p><p>This provs the janeau per se is not the problem..but what it HID ???</p><p>The Royal Commission of Police Enquiry into Corrupt policemen would be looking into catching the "corrupt" policemen..NOT GO AFTER THEIR "UNIFORMS" per se...BUT an advisor trying to talk/advise these corrupt policemen would still be addressing them like this...RESPECT YOUR UNIFORM....bardee dee laaj rakho !!! Is he really addressing the "CLOTH/uniform" per se..OR the CORRUPT PRACTISES HIDING BEHIND THE UNIFORM ??</p><p>Can we then assume..the "uniform" is unholy..dishonourable..its agisnt our ethics...or the corrupt ones wearing it ?? Is the Janeau being condemned..its a mere thread..or is the Brahmin//crafty pandit and his corruptness being cendemned VIA the Janeau ??</p><p>In these posts..the main THRUST is on the UNIFORMS...and the push is taken from.." a few policemn were found guilty of corruption.."..so this writer CONCLUDES that its the UNIFORM that is part of the problem...its the uniform that is targetted..BUT WAIT..Guru Nnak Ji is NOT aginst the "uniform per se"..he says.a uniform made of such and such qualities is acceptable...and that means the person wearing such a uniform must be worthy..</p><p>5 K's.... entirely voluntary...choice to ALL irrespective of any condition..</p><p>entails compulsory Brotherhood, equality, classlessness, humility, responsibility, compassion, such a ROBE OF HONOUR Tenth nanak bestowed !! is acceptable.</p><p>NO bagagge of the janeau is involved here...the Uniform is CLEAN...and for the CLEAN.</p><p></p><p>2, Now the only academic debate remains to be settled...whcih came first..the EGG or the chicken...Amrit-Pahul First or the so called MR. Clean-inside first. Guru Nanak set no conditions...Bhai lehnna ji came...bhai buddha ji came....hun dreds more came....</p><p>NO ONE was sent away first to be "MR.CLEAN-INSIDE" first before rejoining the Guru's darbaar....all sat the exams at the same time..Bhai lehnna ji PASSED. He didnt have to CHANGE anything...he was already changed. BHAI LEHHNNA JI gave his ALL....he came prepared to give his head !! thats why Guru nanak ji named him ANGAD..MY LIMB !!</p><p>Guur nanak ji did nt draw a sword to call for Lehna jis head...not necessary...because the SIKHI was being made ready...by 1699 the entire plan was READY..the SWORD had to be drawn to physically ask for and receive the heads in a relatively SHORT TIME. For 200 Years the SIKHI TREE had been growing...watered..and thriving...the time had come to make a DECISION. Tenth nanak made that decision..the 5 Ks and the PAHUL ceremony to CHOOSE HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of "ANGADS" in short time !! This time the GURU called them MY PYARAS..my BELOVEDs..same terminology as Angad..</p><p>Guur Gobind Singh ji set no conditions. ALL welcome to give thier HEADS..and REVCEIVE the PAHUL. The PYARAS travelled HUGE DISTANCES...to come to GURU JI...were they READY ?? You bet. </p><p></p><p>3. It is retrogressive to insist on going BACK to Bhai lehhna jis times...take 200 years </p><p>( human life is only around 70+ !!! 74 is nearing the end game as Gurbani declares satraan ka ????)...to Become MR. CLEAN INSIDE....before taking the plunge into Pahul..</p><p>Even the lowly police academy has a short training period..then the uniform is given...then the ENTIRE LIFE before RETIREMENT is spent in being a GOOD POLICEMAN..being responsible for the Sanctity of the Uniform !! No one gets a Uniform at RETIREMENT..Mr Clean Inside is proven as no case was registered agaisnt him ?? Any such policeman in the world ?? anyone ?? Who spent his adult life serving the dept trying to be MR Clean inside..and on retirement was given his uniform to wear ?? as silly as this sounds..the same arguments are used agaisnt the 5 ks and pahul. I want to spend 75 years of my life trying to attain inside cleanliness...then maybe i will be fit for pahul ?? I have done numerous paaths..yet i am still dirty inside...??? who knows..sehajdharee for LIFe may be a life long mission for some..they are welcome to that. Not for me.No REGRETS.I dont want to die...clean inside but naked and berefit of my identity.<img src="/images/smilies/whatsapp/thumbs-up.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumbup:" title="Thumbs Up :thumbup:" data-shortname=":thumbup:" /><img src="/images/smilies/whatsapp/thumbs-up.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumbup:" title="Thumbs Up :thumbup:" data-shortname=":thumbup:" /><img src="/images/smilies/whatsapp/thumbs-up.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumbup:" title="Thumbs Up :thumbup:" data-shortname=":thumbup:" /><img src="/images/smilies/whatsapp/thumbs-up.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumbup:" title="Thumbs Up :thumbup:" data-shortname=":thumbup:" /><img src="/images/smilies/whatsapp/thumbs-up.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumbup:" title="Thumbs Up :thumbup:" data-shortname=":thumbup:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gyani Jarnail Singh, post: 98493, member: 189"] This must surely be the final nail in the coffin of one liner quotes, selected with a purpose. in my own words...if the "Janeau" was rubbished by Guru nanak ji..the REASON was the HYPOCRACY hiding behind the thread. The HYPOCRACY that a certian type of janeau was for a Brahmin..high class..another was for a Khatree..lower class..and yet another was for the shudras...the lowest of the Low....CREATING DIVISIONS..CLASSES..among EQUALS..BROTHERS...THAT is the ILLS Guur ji IDENTIFIED and RUBBISHED. Guru nank ji also gave a DETAILED ACCOUNT of what exactly this HYPOCRACY is and how to avoid it. [U][B]Guur nanak ji went DEEP[/B][/U]..into the [U][B]BACKGROUND[/B][/U]..of the janeaus, the tilaks, the coconuts, the baths, the yatras...the what and whys of the WRONGS. Then GURU JI accepts the "non-Hypocritical" Janeau...made exactly the WAY he wants. This provs the janeau per se is not the problem..but what it HID ??? The Royal Commission of Police Enquiry into Corrupt policemen would be looking into catching the "corrupt" policemen..NOT GO AFTER THEIR "UNIFORMS" per se...BUT an advisor trying to talk/advise these corrupt policemen would still be addressing them like this...RESPECT YOUR UNIFORM....bardee dee laaj rakho !!! Is he really addressing the "CLOTH/uniform" per se..OR the CORRUPT PRACTISES HIDING BEHIND THE UNIFORM ?? Can we then assume..the "uniform" is unholy..dishonourable..its agisnt our ethics...or the corrupt ones wearing it ?? Is the Janeau being condemned..its a mere thread..or is the Brahmin//crafty pandit and his corruptness being cendemned VIA the Janeau ?? In these posts..the main THRUST is on the UNIFORMS...and the push is taken from.." a few policemn were found guilty of corruption.."..so this writer CONCLUDES that its the UNIFORM that is part of the problem...its the uniform that is targetted..BUT WAIT..Guru Nnak Ji is NOT aginst the "uniform per se"..he says.a uniform made of such and such qualities is acceptable...and that means the person wearing such a uniform must be worthy.. 5 K's.... entirely voluntary...choice to ALL irrespective of any condition.. entails compulsory Brotherhood, equality, classlessness, humility, responsibility, compassion, such a ROBE OF HONOUR Tenth nanak bestowed !! is acceptable. NO bagagge of the janeau is involved here...the Uniform is CLEAN...and for the CLEAN. 2, Now the only academic debate remains to be settled...whcih came first..the EGG or the chicken...Amrit-Pahul First or the so called MR. Clean-inside first. Guru Nanak set no conditions...Bhai lehnna ji came...bhai buddha ji came....hun dreds more came.... NO ONE was sent away first to be "MR.CLEAN-INSIDE" first before rejoining the Guru's darbaar....all sat the exams at the same time..Bhai lehnna ji PASSED. He didnt have to CHANGE anything...he was already changed. BHAI LEHHNNA JI gave his ALL....he came prepared to give his head !! thats why Guru nanak ji named him ANGAD..MY LIMB !! Guur nanak ji did nt draw a sword to call for Lehna jis head...not necessary...because the SIKHI was being made ready...by 1699 the entire plan was READY..the SWORD had to be drawn to physically ask for and receive the heads in a relatively SHORT TIME. For 200 Years the SIKHI TREE had been growing...watered..and thriving...the time had come to make a DECISION. Tenth nanak made that decision..the 5 Ks and the PAHUL ceremony to CHOOSE HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of "ANGADS" in short time !! This time the GURU called them MY PYARAS..my BELOVEDs..same terminology as Angad.. Guur Gobind Singh ji set no conditions. ALL welcome to give thier HEADS..and REVCEIVE the PAHUL. The PYARAS travelled HUGE DISTANCES...to come to GURU JI...were they READY ?? You bet. 3. It is retrogressive to insist on going BACK to Bhai lehhna jis times...take 200 years ( human life is only around 70+ !!! 74 is nearing the end game as Gurbani declares satraan ka ????)...to Become MR. CLEAN INSIDE....before taking the plunge into Pahul.. Even the lowly police academy has a short training period..then the uniform is given...then the ENTIRE LIFE before RETIREMENT is spent in being a GOOD POLICEMAN..being responsible for the Sanctity of the Uniform !! No one gets a Uniform at RETIREMENT..Mr Clean Inside is proven as no case was registered agaisnt him ?? Any such policeman in the world ?? anyone ?? Who spent his adult life serving the dept trying to be MR Clean inside..and on retirement was given his uniform to wear ?? as silly as this sounds..the same arguments are used agaisnt the 5 ks and pahul. I want to spend 75 years of my life trying to attain inside cleanliness...then maybe i will be fit for pahul ?? I have done numerous paaths..yet i am still dirty inside...??? who knows..sehajdharee for LIFe may be a life long mission for some..they are welcome to that. Not for me.No REGRETS.I dont want to die...clean inside but naked and berefit of my identity.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: [/QUOTE]
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