☀️ JOIN SPN MOBILE
Forums
New posts
Guru Granth Sahib
Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
New resources
Latest activity
Videos
New media
New comments
Library
Latest reviews
Donate
Log in
Register
What's new
New posts
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Welcome to all New Sikh Philosophy Network Forums!
Explore Sikh Sikhi Sikhism...
Sign up
Log in
Discussions
Sikh Sikhi Sikhism
Reincarnation
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Amarpal" data-source="post: 97543" data-attributes="member: 10"><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Dear Khalsa Ji,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong><u>Virinder Singh Ji</u></strong> has very effectively brought forth the review on the idea of <strong>Reincarnation</strong>. It is a substantial effort and a great contribution to this forum. I liked it a lot and here I send in my contribution to the lovely effort that Virinder Singh Ji has made. I thank Virinder Singh Ji for triggering me to consolidate my understanding and post it here. I share with you all what I have understood.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The subject of <strong>Reincarnation</strong> does not allow itself to be understood fully using our mental capabilities. Yet as humans, we do try to understand it. In my attempt to understand the idea of <strong>Reincarnation</strong>, I had to answer lot of question that came to my mind. I had to create my own hypothesizes and concepts before I could integrate them into my understanding to form my views on the Idea of <strong>Reincarnation. </strong>The text that follows conveys my understanding.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><u><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Please Note</span></span></u></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">: </span></span></strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I had to create my own concept to continue with my studies. Readers need not accept this as the ultimate understanding; my own understanding my change as I progress with my learning and as ‘The Sat’ teaches me. Readers may create for their own understanding their own concepts.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">After studying the scripture and mental deliberation over a long time, I have come to conceptualize the essence of creation as ‘<strong><u>Intelligent Cosmic Energy</u>. </strong>To me, this is, what Guru Sahib has named as ‘The Sat’ (<strong>Sat Naam</strong>) in the ‘Mool Mantra’. As we know energy cannot be created or destroyed, by implication it means that it existed on its own (<strong>Saibhang</strong>)and thus it was never born (<strong>Ajuni)</strong>; and cannot die as energy cannot be destroyed; it is timeless (<strong>Akaal Murat</strong>). It is one single entity every where (<strong>Ek</strong> <strong>Ongkar</strong>). Being the essence of all that exists, it is the intelligent driving force in each of the forms (<strong>Karta Purakh</strong>) that are or will be in creation; it has no enmity (<strong>Nirvair</strong>) towards any one or fear (<strong>Nirbhau</strong>) of any one. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">This way I have validated my concept of ‘The Sat’ using the ‘Mool Mantra’ of Siri Guru Granth Sahib.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Now I come to the term <strong>Soul.</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">We are living entity, the presence of Soul differentiate us from dead and insentient entities. Scripture of the land says that this <strong>Soul</strong> is a driving force within us. Since Karta Purakh is the real doer, the <strong>Soul</strong> within us has to be <strong>Karta Purakh</strong> i.e. Parmatma who is present every where. This way ‘<strong>Atman’ (Soul)</strong> and ‘<strong>Parmatman’ (The Sat’)</strong> are one and the same. It is for this reason; Guru Sahib has said that ‘The Sat’ is within each one of us. Since ‘The Sat’ is independent of time so will be the <strong>Soul</strong>, as both are one and the same. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Now I come to my idea/concept/hypotheses about <strong>Creation.</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">We all know that energy can change forms – e.g. heat can become light, kinetic energy can become heat and so on … We also know that energy can get converted into matter and vice versa. Now I come to another of my hypothesis/concept i.e.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><u><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Intelligent Cosmic Energy</span></span></u></strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> prevailing all over the creation gets concentrated at some places and become matter of different types. This is what is said to be the ‘Prakriti’ i.e. insentient part of creation. At place where the <strong><u>Intelligent Cosmic Energy</u></strong> that was getting transformed from energy to matter, as explain above, retained the <strong><u>Intelligent Cosmic Energy</u></strong> in it, as the energy needed for the matter to be formed was higher than needed. This retained<strong><u> Intelligent Cosmic Energy</u></strong> provided the driving force that gave this primitive matter its ability to reproduce and grow. That is how, to me, it appears that primitive for of life came into being. This process fueled by <strong><u>Intelligent Cosmic Energy</u></strong> is in operation ever since then, creating new form of life and evolving further the existing ones.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I quote the sentences from Siri Guru Granth Sahib which Virinder Singh Ji have included in his post.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>1. “<em>Kayee Janam Bha-ay Keett Patangaa, Kayee Janam Meen Kurangaa, Kayee Janam Pankhee Sarap Hooeyoo, Kayee Janam Haivar Birkh Jooeyoo, Mil Jagdeesh Milan Kee Baree-aa, Chirankaal Eh Deh Sanjaree-aa, Kayee Janam Sail Gir Kariaa, Kayee Janam Garabh Hir Khariaa, Kayee Janam Saakh Kar Oupaaey-aa, Lakh Chauraasee Joan Bharmaaey-aa, Saadh Sung Bhaeo Janam Praapat, Kar Seva Bhaj Har Har Gurmat.</em></em></span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">In so many incarnations, you were a worm and an insect. In so many incarnations, you were an elephant, a fish and a deer. In so many incarnations, you were a bird and a snake. In so many incarnations, you were yoked as an ox and a horse. Meet the God of the Universe. Now is the time to meet Master. After so very long, this human body was fashioned for you. In so many incarnations, you were rocks and mountains; in so many incarnations, you were aborted in the womb. In so many incarnations, you developed branches and leaves. You wandered through 8.4 million incarnations. Through the Sadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, you obtained this human life. Do seva, selfless service and vibrate the Name of Eternal Akal Purkh -----Guru Arjan, Raag Gauri Guareri, AGGS, Page, 176”</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Guru Sahib knew all. He is perfectly rational in what he has said. I was so as he has said. Since ‘The Sat’ existed so I i.e. the soul too existed, is existing and will be existing, as the ‘Atman and Parmatman are one and the same (as explained above). Today also I am composed of elements and insentient matter elements, compounds and minerals which came to me from different parts of the creation; that was me earlier and because of the <strong><u>Intelligent Cosmic Energy</u></strong> in me I am alive and a sentient being.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Now I come to my idea of <strong>Reincarnation.</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Guru Sahib has very clearly said that because of the desires we have to come again and again to this world and enter the cycle of births and death. He has also said that to get win over this cycle of birth and death we have to dissolve our ‘<strong>Ahamkara i.e. Ego</strong>’. This provide me the clue and the results of my mental deliberation I share with you below.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">For living we need to eat, which provides us with energy. When we think we consume energy and the output of this mental exercise are thoughts. Since the input to this process was energy and we know that energy cannot be created or destroyed but can change form, and input to the mental process was energy so the output i.e. thought also must be some form of energy. Since energy cannot be destroyed, all the thoughts that got created ever since sentient being came into this world must be around hanging in air, only those thoughts that got realized disappeared from the environment because they change form – they became material reality; all the rest are around us. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Guru Sahib has asked us to offer prayers collectively in Gurdwaras. There is rational to it. When large number of people express the same desire, the thought gains strength, as similar thoughts coalesce and add to its strength, the reverse also is true; opposing thoughts on the same issue negate each other and reduce its strength. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I am also convinced that an individual’s thought remain bunched. The glue for this bunching is the sense of ‘<strong>I –ness’</strong> -<strong> Ahamkara i.e. Ego.</strong> These thoughts are some total of our desires; they remain in the air and their link with the individual is through her or his ‘<strong>I –ness’. </strong>For thoughts this ‘<strong>I –ness’</strong> is what postal address is for letter. Guru Sahib has said that the Karmas get dissolved for the person who has risen above ‘<strong>I –ness’;</strong> whose <strong>Ahamkara i.e. Ego</strong> has been won. The truth of Guru Sahibs teaching is clear to me, the person who has no ‘<strong>I –ness’</strong> has no address for the Karmic process to reach her or him to deliver the impact of her or his past Karmas, this way the past karma becomes equivalent to the roasted seed which cannot produce a new plant. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">All this is to convey how the person’s desires and Karmas which are also in thought form remain bunched as they all carry the same tag of <strong>I –ness’; </strong> this bunch exist in air independent of her or his body tagged to what the </span></span><strong><u><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Intelligent Cosmic Energy</span></span></u></strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> or <strong>Soul</strong></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">When the person dies, this bunch of Desires and Karmas searches for a new body where they can get satisfied and the </span></span><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Soul</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> brings that new body into a state of consciousness which reflects the tendencies and attributes of the past lives. This way the being of the person ‘</span></span><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Reincarnates’ </span></span></strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">and getsinto a new body i.e. a new form.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">When the person has over come her or his </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">‘<strong>I –ness’</strong> - <strong>Ahamkara i.e. Ego</strong> as asked by Guru Sahib the person has reach the state of what the scripture of the land refer to as <strong>Nirvana</strong>. When the person dies in this state the soul has no compulsion; it does not seek any new body. The embodied </span></span><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Soul</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> merges with ‘The Sat’ as it was before embodiment. This is <strong>Moksha</strong>, the person had met <strong>Gobind,</strong> ‘The Sat’</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With this I close.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With love and respect for all.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Amarpal Singh</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Amarpal, post: 97543, member: 10"] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Dear Khalsa Ji,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][B][U]Virinder Singh Ji[/U][/B] has very effectively brought forth the review on the idea of [B]Reincarnation[/B]. It is a substantial effort and a great contribution to this forum. I liked it a lot and here I send in my contribution to the lovely effort that Virinder Singh Ji has made. I thank Virinder Singh Ji for triggering me to consolidate my understanding and post it here. I share with you all what I have understood.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]The subject of [B]Reincarnation[/B] does not allow itself to be understood fully using our mental capabilities. Yet as humans, we do try to understand it. In my attempt to understand the idea of [B]Reincarnation[/B], I had to answer lot of question that came to my mind. I had to create my own hypothesizes and concepts before I could integrate them into my understanding to form my views on the Idea of [B]Reincarnation. [/B]The text that follows conveys my understanding.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [B][U][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Please Note[/FONT][/COLOR][/U][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]: [/FONT][/COLOR][/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I had to create my own concept to continue with my studies. Readers need not accept this as the ultimate understanding; my own understanding my change as I progress with my learning and as ‘The Sat’ teaches me. Readers may create for their own understanding their own concepts.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]After studying the scripture and mental deliberation over a long time, I have come to conceptualize the essence of creation as ‘[B][U]Intelligent Cosmic Energy[/U]. [/B]To me, this is, what Guru Sahib has named as ‘The Sat’ ([B]Sat Naam[/B]) in the ‘Mool Mantra’. As we know energy cannot be created or destroyed, by implication it means that it existed on its own ([B]Saibhang[/B])and thus it was never born ([B]Ajuni)[/B]; and cannot die as energy cannot be destroyed; it is timeless ([B]Akaal Murat[/B]). It is one single entity every where ([B]Ek[/B] [B]Ongkar[/B]). Being the essence of all that exists, it is the intelligent driving force in each of the forms ([B]Karta Purakh[/B]) that are or will be in creation; it has no enmity ([B]Nirvair[/B]) towards any one or fear ([B]Nirbhau[/B]) of any one. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]This way I have validated my concept of ‘The Sat’ using the ‘Mool Mantra’ of Siri Guru Granth Sahib.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Now I come to the term [B]Soul.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]We are living entity, the presence of Soul differentiate us from dead and insentient entities. Scripture of the land says that this [B]Soul[/B] is a driving force within us. Since Karta Purakh is the real doer, the [B]Soul[/B] within us has to be [B]Karta Purakh[/B] i.e. Parmatma who is present every where. This way ‘[B]Atman’ (Soul)[/B] and ‘[B]Parmatman’ (The Sat’)[/B] are one and the same. It is for this reason; Guru Sahib has said that ‘The Sat’ is within each one of us. Since ‘The Sat’ is independent of time so will be the [B]Soul[/B], as both are one and the same. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Now I come to my idea/concept/hypotheses about [B]Creation.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]We all know that energy can change forms – e.g. heat can become light, kinetic energy can become heat and so on … We also know that energy can get converted into matter and vice versa. Now I come to another of my hypothesis/concept i.e.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [B][U][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Intelligent Cosmic Energy[/FONT][/COLOR][/U][/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] prevailing all over the creation gets concentrated at some places and become matter of different types. This is what is said to be the ‘Prakriti’ i.e. insentient part of creation. At place where the [B][U]Intelligent Cosmic Energy[/U][/B] that was getting transformed from energy to matter, as explain above, retained the [B][U]Intelligent Cosmic Energy[/U][/B] in it, as the energy needed for the matter to be formed was higher than needed. This retained[B][U] Intelligent Cosmic Energy[/U][/B] provided the driving force that gave this primitive matter its ability to reproduce and grow. That is how, to me, it appears that primitive for of life came into being. This process fueled by [B][U]Intelligent Cosmic Energy[/U][/B] is in operation ever since then, creating new form of life and evolving further the existing ones.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I quote the sentences from Siri Guru Granth Sahib which Virinder Singh Ji have included in his post.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][I]1. “[I]Kayee Janam Bha-ay Keett Patangaa, Kayee Janam Meen Kurangaa, Kayee Janam Pankhee Sarap Hooeyoo, Kayee Janam Haivar Birkh Jooeyoo, Mil Jagdeesh Milan Kee Baree-aa, Chirankaal Eh Deh Sanjaree-aa, Kayee Janam Sail Gir Kariaa, Kayee Janam Garabh Hir Khariaa, Kayee Janam Saakh Kar Oupaaey-aa, Lakh Chauraasee Joan Bharmaaey-aa, Saadh Sung Bhaeo Janam Praapat, Kar Seva Bhaj Har Har Gurmat.[/I][/I][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]In so many incarnations, you were a worm and an insect. In so many incarnations, you were an elephant, a fish and a deer. In so many incarnations, you were a bird and a snake. In so many incarnations, you were yoked as an ox and a horse. Meet the God of the Universe. Now is the time to meet Master. After so very long, this human body was fashioned for you. In so many incarnations, you were rocks and mountains; in so many incarnations, you were aborted in the womb. In so many incarnations, you developed branches and leaves. You wandered through 8.4 million incarnations. Through the Sadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, you obtained this human life. Do seva, selfless service and vibrate the Name of Eternal Akal Purkh -----Guru Arjan, Raag Gauri Guareri, AGGS, Page, 176”[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Guru Sahib knew all. He is perfectly rational in what he has said. I was so as he has said. Since ‘The Sat’ existed so I i.e. the soul too existed, is existing and will be existing, as the ‘Atman and Parmatman are one and the same (as explained above). Today also I am composed of elements and insentient matter elements, compounds and minerals which came to me from different parts of the creation; that was me earlier and because of the [B][U]Intelligent Cosmic Energy[/U][/B] in me I am alive and a sentient being.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Now I come to my idea of [B]Reincarnation.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Guru Sahib has very clearly said that because of the desires we have to come again and again to this world and enter the cycle of births and death. He has also said that to get win over this cycle of birth and death we have to dissolve our ‘[B]Ahamkara i.e. Ego[/B]’. This provide me the clue and the results of my mental deliberation I share with you below.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]For living we need to eat, which provides us with energy. When we think we consume energy and the output of this mental exercise are thoughts. Since the input to this process was energy and we know that energy cannot be created or destroyed but can change form, and input to the mental process was energy so the output i.e. thought also must be some form of energy. Since energy cannot be destroyed, all the thoughts that got created ever since sentient being came into this world must be around hanging in air, only those thoughts that got realized disappeared from the environment because they change form – they became material reality; all the rest are around us. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Guru Sahib has asked us to offer prayers collectively in Gurdwaras. There is rational to it. When large number of people express the same desire, the thought gains strength, as similar thoughts coalesce and add to its strength, the reverse also is true; opposing thoughts on the same issue negate each other and reduce its strength. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I am also convinced that an individual’s thought remain bunched. The glue for this bunching is the sense of ‘[B]I –ness’[/B] -[B] Ahamkara i.e. Ego.[/B] These thoughts are some total of our desires; they remain in the air and their link with the individual is through her or his ‘[B]I –ness’. [/B]For thoughts this ‘[B]I –ness’[/B] is what postal address is for letter. Guru Sahib has said that the Karmas get dissolved for the person who has risen above ‘[B]I –ness’;[/B] whose [B]Ahamkara i.e. Ego[/B] has been won. The truth of Guru Sahibs teaching is clear to me, the person who has no ‘[B]I –ness’[/B] has no address for the Karmic process to reach her or him to deliver the impact of her or his past Karmas, this way the past karma becomes equivalent to the roasted seed which cannot produce a new plant. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]All this is to convey how the person’s desires and Karmas which are also in thought form remain bunched as they all carry the same tag of [B]I –ness’; [/B] this bunch exist in air independent of her or his body tagged to what the [/SIZE][/FONT][B][U][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Intelligent Cosmic Energy[/FONT][/COLOR][/U][/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] or [B]Soul[/B][/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3].[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]When the person dies, this bunch of Desires and Karmas searches for a new body where they can get satisfied and the [/SIZE][/FONT][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Soul[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] brings that new body into a state of consciousness which reflects the tendencies and attributes of the past lives. This way the being of the person ‘[/SIZE][/FONT][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Reincarnates’ [/FONT][/COLOR][/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]and getsinto a new body i.e. a new form.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]When the person has over come her or his [/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]‘[B]I –ness’[/B] - [B]Ahamkara i.e. Ego[/B] as asked by Guru Sahib the person has reach the state of what the scripture of the land refer to as [B]Nirvana[/B]. When the person dies in this state the soul has no compulsion; it does not seek any new body. The embodied [/SIZE][/FONT][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Soul[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] merges with ‘The Sat’ as it was before embodiment. This is [B]Moksha[/B], the person had met [B]Gobind,[/B] ‘The Sat’[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]With this I close.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]With love and respect for all.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Amarpal Singh[/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Discussions
Sikh Sikhi Sikhism
Reincarnation
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more…
Top