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ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="findingmyway" data-source="post: 132560" data-attributes="member: 12855"><p><strong>Re: An informal critique of Dr. Baldev Singh's article plus a discussion of things brought up in the thread.</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: Purple">A lot has been going on in this thread and it is taking me sometime to digest it all! </span></p><p></p><p>[<span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Purple">Is it fair to discount science completely? A lot of the Guru Granth Sahib is very logical and makes sense. Why shouldn't gurbani be interpreted according to logic? Certainly historical context matters but is that the only concext that can be used?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"> </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">But aren't reincarnation and transmigration of souls 2 completely different concepts? Do they have to be interrelated?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"> ----------------------------</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="color: Purple">I disagree. IMHO Guru Nanak Dev Ji recongnised that caste was different to race adn was used as a means of discrimination. After having travelled so widely, I think Guru Nanak would be very wise to different races, which is effectively genetic differences whereas caste differences were applied across races in India according to status. South and north Indians are different races and this difference is visible. The difference in high and low caste is not visible except by manmade marks.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: Purple">The verses you quote, I would interpret them completely differently. To me they say God has created all so why see differences (and therefore reject the caste system). Incidentally the word varan in one of your quotes can also mean colour so maybe that line is actually referring to race rather than caste??</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">How do you explain these quotes?</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple"></span><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">PkV jwqI PkVu nwau ]</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">sBnw jIAw iekw Cwau ]</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Awphu jy ko Blw khwey ]</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">nwnk qw pru jwpY jw piq lyKY pwey ]1]</span></span><span style="color: Purple"></span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">Worthless is the caste and worthless is the status attached to</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">it, as the Protector of all is One. “One may consider oneself</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">high, but Nanak says, “High is the one who is approved by</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">God.” AGGS, M 1, p. 83.</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple"></span><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">kc pkweI EQY pwie ]</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">nwnk gieAw jwpY jwie ]34]</span></span><span style="color: Purple"></span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">Nanak, whether one is inferior or superior is found out when</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">one goes to the court of God (when one is tested on the</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">touchstone of Truth). AGGS, Jap 34, p. 7.</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple"></span><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">jwxhu joiq n pUChu jwqI AwgY jwiq n hy ]1] rhwau ]</span></span></p><p><span style="color: Purple"> Recognize the Light that is present in all. Do not ask anyone's</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">caste as there is no caste under God’s domain. AGGS, M 1,</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">p. 349.</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple"></span><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Ksmu ivswrih qy kmjwiq ]</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">nwnk nwvY bwJu snwiq ]4]3]</span></span><span style="color: Purple"></span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">Those who forget God are degenerate. O Nanak, without</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">contemplation on God one is low/outcaste. AGGS, M 1, p. 10</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">and p. 349.</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple"></span><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">jwqI dY ikAw hiQ scu prKIAY ]</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">mhurw hovY hiQ mrIAY cKIAY ]</span></span><span style="color: Purple"></span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">What good is caste/social status? One’s true worth is</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">determined by Truth/truthful living. Caste/social status is like</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">holding poison in hand. If one tastes it, one dies. AGGS, M 1,</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">p. 142.</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple"></span><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">AgY jwiq n joru hY AgY jIau nvy ]</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">ijn kI lyKY piq pvY cMgy syeI kyie ]3]</span></span><span style="color: Purple"></span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">Caste or worldly power is of no avail--under God’s domain</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">rules are different. Only those are honored there, who earn</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">merit through truthful living! AGGS, M 1, p. 469.</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple"></span><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px">AY jI nw hm auqm nIc n miDm hir srxwgiq hir ky log ]</span></span></p><p><span style="color: Purple"> Respected one, I am neither of high nor low nor medium</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple">caste; I serve God, Who is my Protector. AGGS, M 1, p. 504.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span>Why can the purpose of being a gurmukh not be to be released from pain and suffering in the current life? </p><p></p><p><span style="color: Purple">A number of other posts have mentioned that without reincarnation there is no point to be a better person but I do not understand this viewpoint so please could someone explain further? Does the reward of no longer suffering once you realise the lord not bear enough fruit. This is what Anand Sahib talks about. Why can that not be our aim for this lifetime, why focus on the next lifetime? Why is the reward of being a better person and experiencing true happiness in our lifetime not enough reward? </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: Purple">Will return with more thoughts later</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="findingmyway, post: 132560, member: 12855"] [b]Re: An informal critique of Dr. Baldev Singh's article plus a discussion of things brought up in the thread.[/b] [COLOR=Purple]A lot has been going on in this thread and it is taking me sometime to digest it all! [/COLOR] [[SIZE=2] [COLOR=Purple]Is it fair to discount science completely? A lot of the Guru Granth Sahib is very logical and makes sense. Why shouldn't gurbani be interpreted according to logic? Certainly historical context matters but is that the only concext that can be used?[/COLOR] [/SIZE] [COLOR=Purple]But aren't reincarnation and transmigration of souls 2 completely different concepts? Do they have to be interrelated?[/COLOR] [SIZE=2] ---------------------------- [/SIZE][COLOR=Purple]I disagree. IMHO Guru Nanak Dev Ji recongnised that caste was different to race adn was used as a means of discrimination. After having travelled so widely, I think Guru Nanak would be very wise to different races, which is effectively genetic differences whereas caste differences were applied across races in India according to status. South and north Indians are different races and this difference is visible. The difference in high and low caste is not visible except by manmade marks.[/COLOR] [COLOR=Purple]The verses you quote, I would interpret them completely differently. To me they say God has created all so why see differences (and therefore reject the caste system). Incidentally the word varan in one of your quotes can also mean colour so maybe that line is actually referring to race rather than caste??[/COLOR] [COLOR=Purple]How do you explain these quotes? [/COLOR][FONT=GurbaniWebThick][SIZE=4]PkV jwqI PkVu nwau ] sBnw jIAw iekw Cwau ] Awphu jy ko Blw khwey ] nwnk qw pru jwpY jw piq lyKY pwey ]1][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=Purple] Worthless is the caste and worthless is the status attached to it, as the Protector of all is One. “One may consider oneself high, but Nanak says, “High is the one who is approved by God.” AGGS, M 1, p. 83. [/COLOR][FONT=GurbaniWebThick][SIZE=4]kc pkweI EQY pwie ] nwnk gieAw jwpY jwie ]34][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=Purple] Nanak, whether one is inferior or superior is found out when one goes to the court of God (when one is tested on the touchstone of Truth). AGGS, Jap 34, p. 7. [/COLOR][FONT=GurbaniWebThick][SIZE=4]jwxhu joiq n pUChu jwqI AwgY jwiq n hy ]1] rhwau ][/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=Purple] Recognize the Light that is present in all. Do not ask anyone's caste as there is no caste under God’s domain. AGGS, M 1, p. 349. [/COLOR][FONT=GurbaniWebThick][SIZE=4]Ksmu ivswrih qy kmjwiq ] nwnk nwvY bwJu snwiq ]4]3][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=Purple] Those who forget God are degenerate. O Nanak, without contemplation on God one is low/outcaste. AGGS, M 1, p. 10 and p. 349. [/COLOR][FONT=GurbaniWebThick][SIZE=4]jwqI dY ikAw hiQ scu prKIAY ] mhurw hovY hiQ mrIAY cKIAY ][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=Purple] What good is caste/social status? One’s true worth is determined by Truth/truthful living. Caste/social status is like holding poison in hand. If one tastes it, one dies. AGGS, M 1, p. 142. [/COLOR][FONT=GurbaniWebThick][SIZE=4]AgY jwiq n joru hY AgY jIau nvy ] ijn kI lyKY piq pvY cMgy syeI kyie ]3][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=Purple] Caste or worldly power is of no avail--under God’s domain rules are different. Only those are honored there, who earn merit through truthful living! AGGS, M 1, p. 469. [/COLOR][FONT=GurbaniWebThick][SIZE=4]AY jI nw hm auqm nIc n miDm hir srxwgiq hir ky log ][/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=Purple] Respected one, I am neither of high nor low nor medium caste; I serve God, Who is my Protector. AGGS, M 1, p. 504.[/COLOR] [SIZE=2] [/SIZE]Why can the purpose of being a gurmukh not be to be released from pain and suffering in the current life? [COLOR=Purple]A number of other posts have mentioned that without reincarnation there is no point to be a better person but I do not understand this viewpoint so please could someone explain further? Does the reward of no longer suffering once you realise the lord not bear enough fruit. This is what Anand Sahib talks about. Why can that not be our aim for this lifetime, why focus on the next lifetime? Why is the reward of being a better person and experiencing true happiness in our lifetime not enough reward? [/COLOR] [COLOR=Purple]Will return with more thoughts later[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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