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Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="drkhalsa" data-source="post: 9379" data-attributes="member: 384"><p><strong>Re: Rathaswami - To be .... or not to be ?</strong></p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Dear Brother I would like to tell you what I know of them </p><p>these peoples all of their leaders are sahejdhari sikhs ( interesting fact !!) I mean everybody keep kesh and wear turban but their follower hardly care about it .</p><p>They don't believe in Guru Granth Sahib as the guide, instead they insist on living guru which guides them. </p><p>They initiate each and every person personally by giving naam and it has to be kept secret ( it is more like a psychological game used many times in human history ie creating little mysteries and then forcing the person to keep mystery secret to give it a sense of exclusiveness, and creates interest of person ).</p><p>Their follower are strict vegetarian and alcohol is also prohibited while tobacco is allowed or not taken care of </p><p>they also believe in one god but insist on living guru and their guru consider themself in same league as Ten Gurus of sikhs.</p><p>they use Guru Granth sahib with their personal interpretaion which suits them ( interesting fact )</p><p>they have their network of sewadar which keep hopes of the follower alive by regularly creating stories of small miracles in day to day life and this helps keep people sincere to dera of RS</p><p> </p><p>While what I think of this dera ( RS) is that infact their is nothing bad they are doing they are just doing regular bussiness - every man does earn a living and they may also prove helpful to some families as they advise to leave alcohol and live simple life but the maximum they can offer any body is hopeful life with security that they have some special approch to god taught by their guru. </p><p> </p><p>while know comparison with sikhism and moving from sikhism to RS</p><p>while what I think is it is just like small child going to school starting from nursery and going through all the grades and then graduation and then masters and phd </p><p>at each and every level of his study what ever he is taught is absolutely right fir that level only and as one progress one come to know of what was the limitation of previous level </p><p>similar is for sikhism , it was super boost formula devised by Akal Purakh help every body to realise akal Purakh in the best way possible ( teh focus here is to realise god not just trying to spend a peaceful life )</p><p>Now it is immposible for somebody who has done masters would feel any sense of attraction in going to Kindergarden class and learn abc </p><p>basically many of us dont undersytand what Sikhi is and get attracted to such things which are not wrong but actually dont serve the purpose of our lives </p><p>What I think is every thing is happening with Akal Purakhs grace so if he wants somebody to study in early grades of spitual education then he make such person seek such groups like RS and leave the super HIghway like SIkhi</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="drkhalsa, post: 9379, member: 384"] [b]Re: Rathaswami - To be .... or not to be ?[/b] Dear Brother I would like to tell you what I know of them these peoples all of their leaders are sahejdhari sikhs ( interesting fact !!) I mean everybody keep kesh and wear turban but their follower hardly care about it . They don't believe in Guru Granth Sahib as the guide, instead they insist on living guru which guides them. They initiate each and every person personally by giving naam and it has to be kept secret ( it is more like a psychological game used many times in human history ie creating little mysteries and then forcing the person to keep mystery secret to give it a sense of exclusiveness, and creates interest of person ). Their follower are strict vegetarian and alcohol is also prohibited while tobacco is allowed or not taken care of they also believe in one god but insist on living guru and their guru consider themself in same league as Ten Gurus of sikhs. they use Guru Granth sahib with their personal interpretaion which suits them ( interesting fact ) they have their network of sewadar which keep hopes of the follower alive by regularly creating stories of small miracles in day to day life and this helps keep people sincere to dera of RS While what I think of this dera ( RS) is that infact their is nothing bad they are doing they are just doing regular bussiness - every man does earn a living and they may also prove helpful to some families as they advise to leave alcohol and live simple life but the maximum they can offer any body is hopeful life with security that they have some special approch to god taught by their guru. while know comparison with sikhism and moving from sikhism to RS while what I think is it is just like small child going to school starting from nursery and going through all the grades and then graduation and then masters and phd at each and every level of his study what ever he is taught is absolutely right fir that level only and as one progress one come to know of what was the limitation of previous level similar is for sikhism , it was super boost formula devised by Akal Purakh help every body to realise akal Purakh in the best way possible ( teh focus here is to realise god not just trying to spend a peaceful life ) Now it is immposible for somebody who has done masters would feel any sense of attraction in going to Kindergarden class and learn abc basically many of us dont undersytand what Sikhi is and get attracted to such things which are not wrong but actually dont serve the purpose of our lives What I think is every thing is happening with Akal Purakhs grace so if he wants somebody to study in early grades of spitual education then he make such person seek such groups like RS and leave the super HIghway like SIkhi [/QUOTE]
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