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Raagmala - Is It Really Part Of Gurbani?
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<blockquote data-quote="swarn bains" data-source="post: 204136" data-attributes="member: 17695"><p>I gave you enough time to digest and raise questions and now is the next part.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Those objected to my explanation they raised questions and then I looked at the translations of others including bhai sahib singh. Bhai sahib singh and McAuliffe put the most effort to translate. I admire them. The other scholars take advantage of the giddad parchi hanging on their head by going to universities and acquiring phds. The answers to any question come the way a person thinks. Right here there is an example of harkeerat kaur. She found God in nasa’s frequency waves. So it is ok. More to it. There are millions of mistake in my translation. That is why your questions arise. There are wives, sons and then there are 48 sons in their explanations of raag maala. Who are those 48 sons. You call yourselves actofGod, I feel you also call yourself the son of God. I do. Unfortunately I am a poet. That is how I arrived at whether eighteen, ten or twenty. It is done to resonate with the previous part of the stanza.</p><p></p><p>Then I found the controversy of raag maala.</p><p></p><p>Scholars against raag maala.</p><p></p><p>There two side of it. I will explain the first</p><p></p><p>Raag maal appeared in the writing of Aalm in the story of Madhavnal kaam kandla. This was first written by bhai jodh. It did not have raag maala in it. Then alam copied it and wrote raag maala in it. He lived around the same time as guru Arjun dev jee.</p><p></p><p>Alam included it in his book. Alams poetry is in chaupai; all of it. But at one point he says that madhav nal comes to meet kaam kandla. As he enters the boundry of kaam kandlas town he sings raag maala. There is no raag in alam,s book. Then where does he get this para full of raags. I will say that alam stole it from some where. I read that book I have it on old flopy as well. The person who wrote the big article that you read, says that it was kaam kandla singing the raag maal. I read the book, the book says that it is madhav nal who sings the raag maala. Something is fishy. Alam is used to stealing. So it is!</p><p></p><p>The second objection is</p><p></p><p>As you said. You read someonès explanation. It comes after mudavani, it has no numbering as in sggs. It does not have the same number of raags as in sggs. So it does not meet the criteria to be in sggs.</p><p></p><p>The objection comes from not having all above. Salok mahall 5 also comes after mudavani. So that nullifies the end of sggs explanation.</p><p></p><p>It does not have the same numbering system as the rest. It does not have the numbering system.</p><p></p><p>The last thing is that the raag maala has been written before also. Those who follow that philosophy say that it is not part of sggs, because the previous raag maalas explained the raags in it. it does not follow the raags in sggs. Once a man makes up his mind, the mind starts contemplating the same way. As you do.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The school in favour of raag maala</p><p></p><p>My mind says that guru Arjun dev jee wrote it, but after writing mudavani.so it is after mudavani. The numbering system if it is written after compiling the sggs. It is a small paragraph small subject, probably it did not need those numbering system. That is the reason why alam could steal it.</p><p></p><p>People who say it does not have all the raags.</p><p></p><p>I say it is an independent para. It does not deal with raags. Some raags are mentioned in order to admire God the way he thought it correct. Those who think that it should have all the raags in it, do not think with their mind. They cannot did deep and try to contemplate why is it in sggs. Everything in sggs is bani. Then why could raag maala not be bani. I thought it was bani that is why I went that deep in my mind to think and remember it</p><p></p><p>. All those who against it cannot think that hard, they do what you do. Though they may be called</p><p></p><p>Ganga singh, ganda singh jhanda singh.</p><p></p><p> If it is in sggs ; it has to be gurbani. Why is sunders bani in it. It does not explain anything divine. Why is satta and balwand’s writing in it. Except one stanza they only sing praises of guru’s wife. They refused to sing in congregation at one time and yet their writing is in it. Why? Once you start thinking that way; your mind starts to think that way.</p><p></p><p>I think it is written after slok mahalla 5 and it did not need that numbering. And added in the end as a master piece if u think it my way. All those who think otherwise, and they have libraries named after them, so be it. they are all social scholars, historians, read from somewhere and then write like many scholars who translated sggs calling God has 48 sons and put their seal because of their phd.</p><p></p><p>Let me put mudavani now. They are not spiritual people, simply people call them. They are historians.</p><p></p><p>Now I want you to be sincere and find faults in my explanation from your soul, all of you including giani jee, because that is where it all started. and answer back I will be very happy, but not reading someone wrote on the internet. They also read someone’s writing and claim their own. I want u to answer my question of how many people wrote sggs. It will give you the time to soul searching and learning and may be teach me something which I did not try to find. Then I will tell my version how many. Dig deep son dig deep?</p><p></p><p>You asked me questions, taunted me. I gave you the answers to the best of my ability. Now I want to ask you. What is your name why are u using artificial name. are you a scholar or just fishing the internet for killing time and hunt people with strong remarks to either give in or answer your questions.</p><p></p><p>Now a question for the organizers or the owners of this site</p><p></p><p>. I am a poet. I write sufi or spiritual poetry in Punjabi. After resolving the above amicably. With your permission can I put some Punjabi poems on this site. Please!</p><p></p><p> God bless the creation my friends.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="swarn bains, post: 204136, member: 17695"] I gave you enough time to digest and raise questions and now is the next part. Those objected to my explanation they raised questions and then I looked at the translations of others including bhai sahib singh. Bhai sahib singh and McAuliffe put the most effort to translate. I admire them. The other scholars take advantage of the giddad parchi hanging on their head by going to universities and acquiring phds. The answers to any question come the way a person thinks. Right here there is an example of harkeerat kaur. She found God in nasa’s frequency waves. So it is ok. More to it. There are millions of mistake in my translation. That is why your questions arise. There are wives, sons and then there are 48 sons in their explanations of raag maala. Who are those 48 sons. You call yourselves actofGod, I feel you also call yourself the son of God. I do. Unfortunately I am a poet. That is how I arrived at whether eighteen, ten or twenty. It is done to resonate with the previous part of the stanza. Then I found the controversy of raag maala. Scholars against raag maala. There two side of it. I will explain the first Raag maal appeared in the writing of Aalm in the story of Madhavnal kaam kandla. This was first written by bhai jodh. It did not have raag maala in it. Then alam copied it and wrote raag maala in it. He lived around the same time as guru Arjun dev jee. Alam included it in his book. Alams poetry is in chaupai; all of it. But at one point he says that madhav nal comes to meet kaam kandla. As he enters the boundry of kaam kandlas town he sings raag maala. There is no raag in alam,s book. Then where does he get this para full of raags. I will say that alam stole it from some where. I read that book I have it on old flopy as well. The person who wrote the big article that you read, says that it was kaam kandla singing the raag maal. I read the book, the book says that it is madhav nal who sings the raag maala. Something is fishy. Alam is used to stealing. So it is! The second objection is As you said. You read someonès explanation. It comes after mudavani, it has no numbering as in sggs. It does not have the same number of raags as in sggs. So it does not meet the criteria to be in sggs. The objection comes from not having all above. Salok mahall 5 also comes after mudavani. So that nullifies the end of sggs explanation. It does not have the same numbering system as the rest. It does not have the numbering system. The last thing is that the raag maala has been written before also. Those who follow that philosophy say that it is not part of sggs, because the previous raag maalas explained the raags in it. it does not follow the raags in sggs. Once a man makes up his mind, the mind starts contemplating the same way. As you do. The school in favour of raag maala My mind says that guru Arjun dev jee wrote it, but after writing mudavani.so it is after mudavani. The numbering system if it is written after compiling the sggs. It is a small paragraph small subject, probably it did not need those numbering system. That is the reason why alam could steal it. People who say it does not have all the raags. I say it is an independent para. It does not deal with raags. Some raags are mentioned in order to admire God the way he thought it correct. Those who think that it should have all the raags in it, do not think with their mind. They cannot did deep and try to contemplate why is it in sggs. Everything in sggs is bani. Then why could raag maala not be bani. I thought it was bani that is why I went that deep in my mind to think and remember it . All those who against it cannot think that hard, they do what you do. Though they may be called Ganga singh, ganda singh jhanda singh. If it is in sggs ; it has to be gurbani. Why is sunders bani in it. It does not explain anything divine. Why is satta and balwand’s writing in it. Except one stanza they only sing praises of guru’s wife. They refused to sing in congregation at one time and yet their writing is in it. Why? Once you start thinking that way; your mind starts to think that way. I think it is written after slok mahalla 5 and it did not need that numbering. And added in the end as a master piece if u think it my way. All those who think otherwise, and they have libraries named after them, so be it. they are all social scholars, historians, read from somewhere and then write like many scholars who translated sggs calling God has 48 sons and put their seal because of their phd. Let me put mudavani now. They are not spiritual people, simply people call them. They are historians. Now I want you to be sincere and find faults in my explanation from your soul, all of you including giani jee, because that is where it all started. and answer back I will be very happy, but not reading someone wrote on the internet. They also read someone’s writing and claim their own. I want u to answer my question of how many people wrote sggs. It will give you the time to soul searching and learning and may be teach me something which I did not try to find. Then I will tell my version how many. Dig deep son dig deep? You asked me questions, taunted me. I gave you the answers to the best of my ability. Now I want to ask you. What is your name why are u using artificial name. are you a scholar or just fishing the internet for killing time and hunt people with strong remarks to either give in or answer your questions. Now a question for the organizers or the owners of this site . I am a poet. I write sufi or spiritual poetry in Punjabi. After resolving the above amicably. With your permission can I put some Punjabi poems on this site. Please! God bless the creation my friends. [/QUOTE]
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