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<blockquote data-quote="Ishna" data-source="post: 165123" data-attributes="member: 2709"><p>Yes, many thanks to you Vouthon bhaji (brother) for an insightful and well written post!</p><p></p><p>In my curiosity I went to read myself what the Quran has to say about Lot (Lut), and while trying to find the story I ended up by mistake reading the story just before it. I think you might find it interesting. I have put the most pertinent passage in <strong>bold</strong>.</p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>SECTION 6.</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">61. To the Thamūd People</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">(We sent) Sālih, one</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Of their own brethren.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">He said: "O my People!</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Worship God: ye have</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">No other God but Him.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">It is He Who hath produced you</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">From the earth and settled you</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Therein: then ask forgiveness</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Of Him, and turn to Him</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">(In repentance): for my Lord</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Is (always) near, ready</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">To answer."</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">62. They said: "O Sālib!</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Thou hast been of us!—</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: green">p. 531</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">A centre of our hopes</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Hitherto! Dost thou (now)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Forbid us the worship</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Of what our fathers worshipped?</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">But we are really</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">In suspicious (disquieting)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Doubt as to that to which</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Thou invitest us."</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">63. He said: "O my people!</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Do ye see?—If I have</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">A Clear (Sign) from my Lord</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">And He hath sent Mercy</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Unto me from Himself,—who</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Then can help me</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Against God if I were</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">To disobey Him? What</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Then would ye add</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">To my (portion) but perdition?</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">64. "And O my people!</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">This she-camel of God is</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">A symbol to you:</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Leave her to feed</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">On God's (free) earth,</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">And inflict no harm</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">On her, or a swift Penalty</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Will seize you!"</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">65. But they did ham-string her.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">So he said: "Enjoy yourselves</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">In your homes for three days:</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">(Then will be your ruin):</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: green">p. 532</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">(Behold) there a promise</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Not to be belied!"</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>66. When Our Decree issued,</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>We saved Sālib and those</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Who believed with him,</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>By (special) Grace from</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Ourselves—</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>And from the Ignominy</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Of that Day. For thy Lord—</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>He is the Strong One, and Able</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>To enforce His Will.</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">67. The (mighty) Blast overtook</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">The wrong-doers, and they</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Lay prostrate in their homes</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Before the morning,—</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">68. As if they had never</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Dwelt and flourished there.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Ah! Behold! For the Thamūd</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Rejected their Lord and Cherisher!</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Ah! Behold! Removed</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">(From sight) were the Thamūd!</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p> So perhaps Allah and Islam is not as full of hate and confusion as perhaps some of the followers? Some bad apples in the barrel doesn't make them all bad?</p><p></p><p>And just for completeness, here's the story of Lut:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">74. When fear had passed</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">From (the mind of) Abraham</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">And the glad tidings</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Had reached him, he</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Began to plead with Us</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">For Lūt's people.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">75. For Abraham was,</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Without doubt, forbearing</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">(Of faults), compassionate,</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">And given to look to God.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">76. O Abraham! Seek not this.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">The decree of thy Lord</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Hath gone forth: for them</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">There cometh a Penalty</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: green">p. 535</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">That cannot be turned back!</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">77. When Our Messengers</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Came to Lūt, he was</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Grieved on their account</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">And felt himself powerless</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">(To protect) them. He said:</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">"This is a distressful day."</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">78. And his people came</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Rushing towards him,</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">And they had been long</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">In the habit of practising</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Abominations. He said:</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">"O my people! Here are</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">My daughters: they are purer</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">For you (if ye marry)!</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Now fear God, and cover me not</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">With shame about my guests!</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Is there not among you</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">A single right-minded man?"</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">79. They said: "Well dost thou</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Know we have no need</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Of thy daughters: indeed</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Thou knowest quite well</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">What we want!"</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">80. He said: "Would that I</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Had power to suppress you</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: green">p. 536</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Or that I could betake</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Myself to some powerful support."</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">81. (The Messengers) said: "O Lūt</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">We are Messengers from thy Lord!</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">By no means shall they</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Reach thee! Now travel</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">With thy family while yet</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">A part of the night remains,</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">And let not any of you</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Look back: but thy wife</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">(Will remain behind):</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">To her will happen</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">What happens to the people.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Morning is their time appointed:</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Is not the morning nigh?"</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">82. When Our decree issued,</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">We turned (the cities)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Upside down, and rained down</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">On them brimstones</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Hard as baked clay,</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Spread, layer on layer,—</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">83. Marked as from thy Lord:</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: green">p. 537</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Nor are they ever far</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">From those who do wrong!</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p> <a href="http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/yaq/yaq011.htm" target="_blank">http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/yaq/yaq011.htm</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ishna, post: 165123, member: 2709"] Yes, many thanks to you Vouthon bhaji (brother) for an insightful and well written post! In my curiosity I went to read myself what the Quran has to say about Lot (Lut), and while trying to find the story I ended up by mistake reading the story just before it. I think you might find it interesting. I have put the most pertinent passage in [B]bold[/B]. [INDENT][B]SECTION 6.[/B] 61. To the Thamūd People (We sent) Sālih, one Of their own brethren. He said: "O my People! Worship God: ye have No other God but Him. It is He Who hath produced you From the earth and settled you Therein: then ask forgiveness Of Him, and turn to Him (In repentance): for my Lord Is (always) near, ready To answer." 62. They said: "O Sālib! Thou hast been of us!— [SIZE=1][COLOR=green]p. 531[/COLOR][/SIZE] A centre of our hopes Hitherto! Dost thou (now) Forbid us the worship Of what our fathers worshipped? But we are really In suspicious (disquieting) Doubt as to that to which Thou invitest us." 63. He said: "O my people! Do ye see?—If I have A Clear (Sign) from my Lord And He hath sent Mercy Unto me from Himself,—who Then can help me Against God if I were To disobey Him? What Then would ye add To my (portion) but perdition? 64. "And O my people! This she-camel of God is A symbol to you: Leave her to feed On God's (free) earth, And inflict no harm On her, or a swift Penalty Will seize you!" 65. But they did ham-string her. So he said: "Enjoy yourselves In your homes for three days: (Then will be your ruin): [SIZE=1][COLOR=green]p. 532[/COLOR][/SIZE] (Behold) there a promise Not to be belied!" [B]66. When Our Decree issued, We saved Sālib and those Who believed with him, By (special) Grace from Ourselves— And from the Ignominy Of that Day. For thy Lord— He is the Strong One, and Able To enforce His Will.[/B] 67. The (mighty) Blast overtook The wrong-doers, and they Lay prostrate in their homes Before the morning,— 68. As if they had never Dwelt and flourished there. Ah! Behold! For the Thamūd Rejected their Lord and Cherisher! Ah! Behold! Removed (From sight) were the Thamūd! [/INDENT] So perhaps Allah and Islam is not as full of hate and confusion as perhaps some of the followers? Some bad apples in the barrel doesn't make them all bad? And just for completeness, here's the story of Lut: [INDENT]74. When fear had passed From (the mind of) Abraham And the glad tidings Had reached him, he Began to plead with Us For Lūt's people. 75. For Abraham was, Without doubt, forbearing (Of faults), compassionate, And given to look to God. 76. O Abraham! Seek not this. The decree of thy Lord Hath gone forth: for them There cometh a Penalty [SIZE=1][COLOR=green]p. 535[/COLOR][/SIZE] That cannot be turned back! 77. When Our Messengers Came to Lūt, he was Grieved on their account And felt himself powerless (To protect) them. He said: "This is a distressful day." 78. And his people came Rushing towards him, And they had been long In the habit of practising Abominations. He said: "O my people! Here are My daughters: they are purer For you (if ye marry)! Now fear God, and cover me not With shame about my guests! Is there not among you A single right-minded man?" 79. They said: "Well dost thou Know we have no need Of thy daughters: indeed Thou knowest quite well What we want!" 80. He said: "Would that I Had power to suppress you [SIZE=1][COLOR=green]p. 536[/COLOR][/SIZE] Or that I could betake Myself to some powerful support." 81. (The Messengers) said: "O Lūt We are Messengers from thy Lord! By no means shall they Reach thee! Now travel With thy family while yet A part of the night remains, And let not any of you Look back: but thy wife (Will remain behind): To her will happen What happens to the people. Morning is their time appointed: Is not the morning nigh?" 82. When Our decree issued, We turned (the cities) Upside down, and rained down On them brimstones Hard as baked clay, Spread, layer on layer,— 83. Marked as from thy Lord: [SIZE=1][COLOR=green]p. 537[/COLOR][/SIZE] Nor are they ever far From those who do wrong! [/INDENT] [url]http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/yaq/yaq011.htm[/url] [/QUOTE]
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