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Prabh Milne Ka Chao - Bhai Sewa Singh Tarmala
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<blockquote data-quote="hpannu" data-source="post: 162197" data-attributes="member: 5545"><p>ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ</p><p>ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ ॥</p><p></p><p>I have a little bit of info. on Prabh Milne Ka Chao that i would like to Share.</p><p></p><p>I would first like to say - I was raised by my parents to follow Guru Granth Sahib Ji only. No Dera influence.</p><p></p><p>In one of NJ Gurduara Sahib there are followers of Prabh Milne ka chao. Sangat members were told Sukhmani Sahib ਦੇ ਪਾਠ ਦੀ ਲੋੜ ਨਹੀ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਾਂ । Sangat was discouraged to do ਪਾਠ and encouraged to do Simran. Management was split between the two. There was friction and a youtube video was shown from Dera Prabh Milne ka chao (near Moga, Punjab). In the video Seva Singh Tarmala is leading people asking them to do Vaheguru Simran and rotate there head at the same time resulting in Turbans coming off. ਲੋਕ ਸਿਰ ਮਾਰ ਰਹੇ ਸੀ ਅਤੇ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਕਰ ਰਹੇ ਸੀ । ਪੱਗਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਵਾਲ ਵੀ ਖੁਲੇ ਹੋਏ ਸੀ । ਸੇਵਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਤਰਮਾਲਾ ਸਿਰ ਨਹੀ ਸੀ ਘੁਮਾ ਰਿਹਾ । ਕਮਲਵਾਹ ਸੀ - ਇਹ ਸਭ ਕੁਝ ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੀ ਹਜੂਰੀ ਵਿੱਚ ਹੋ ਰਿਹਾ ਸੀ । After seeing the video a normal person is upset at the situation in Punjab. Negative influence of Deras. </p><p></p><p>Second incident is from 2 years ago when i was visiting California and went to see a friend of mine. My friend is a big fan of Prabh Milne ka chao. They bought an old church converted it into Gurduara Sahib and i was there when they were doing opening ceremony. when i went to see him he was at Gurduara Sahib running a Khalsa Camp. what i saw over there ? Sangat members were doing Simran ( I had only heard of it from the incident in NJ). There was no Kirtan or Katha in regular diwan. One of the Singh was telling Sangat techniques how to do Simran ? breath in and out and leading in Simran.</p><p></p><p>I was not impressed from this experience and first hand saw what I had only heard of before ? </p><p></p><p>Here are the things to ponder -</p><p></p><p>do we need deras for Brahm Gyan ? my answer is big NO. </p><p></p><p>People are looking for short cuts and there is no short cut. All they have do is believe in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Learn Gurmukhi / Gurbani, try to understand it ( to a person's best ability ) and lastly follow it. seems easy but it's not easy - right. well make a good effort to follow these steps.</p><p></p><p>Bhul chuk maaf karna ji !</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hpannu, post: 162197, member: 5545"] ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ ॥ I have a little bit of info. on Prabh Milne Ka Chao that i would like to Share. I would first like to say - I was raised by my parents to follow Guru Granth Sahib Ji only. No Dera influence. In one of NJ Gurduara Sahib there are followers of Prabh Milne ka chao. Sangat members were told Sukhmani Sahib ਦੇ ਪਾਠ ਦੀ ਲੋੜ ਨਹੀ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਾਂ । Sangat was discouraged to do ਪਾਠ and encouraged to do Simran. Management was split between the two. There was friction and a youtube video was shown from Dera Prabh Milne ka chao (near Moga, Punjab). In the video Seva Singh Tarmala is leading people asking them to do Vaheguru Simran and rotate there head at the same time resulting in Turbans coming off. ਲੋਕ ਸਿਰ ਮਾਰ ਰਹੇ ਸੀ ਅਤੇ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਕਰ ਰਹੇ ਸੀ । ਪੱਗਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਵਾਲ ਵੀ ਖੁਲੇ ਹੋਏ ਸੀ । ਸੇਵਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਤਰਮਾਲਾ ਸਿਰ ਨਹੀ ਸੀ ਘੁਮਾ ਰਿਹਾ । ਕਮਲਵਾਹ ਸੀ - ਇਹ ਸਭ ਕੁਝ ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੀ ਹਜੂਰੀ ਵਿੱਚ ਹੋ ਰਿਹਾ ਸੀ । After seeing the video a normal person is upset at the situation in Punjab. Negative influence of Deras. Second incident is from 2 years ago when i was visiting California and went to see a friend of mine. My friend is a big fan of Prabh Milne ka chao. They bought an old church converted it into Gurduara Sahib and i was there when they were doing opening ceremony. when i went to see him he was at Gurduara Sahib running a Khalsa Camp. what i saw over there ? Sangat members were doing Simran ( I had only heard of it from the incident in NJ). There was no Kirtan or Katha in regular diwan. One of the Singh was telling Sangat techniques how to do Simran ? breath in and out and leading in Simran. I was not impressed from this experience and first hand saw what I had only heard of before ? Here are the things to ponder - do we need deras for Brahm Gyan ? my answer is big NO. People are looking for short cuts and there is no short cut. All they have do is believe in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Learn Gurmukhi / Gurbani, try to understand it ( to a person's best ability ) and lastly follow it. seems easy but it's not easy - right. well make a good effort to follow these steps. Bhul chuk maaf karna ji ! [/QUOTE]
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