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<blockquote data-quote="spnadmin" data-source="post: 126628" data-attributes="member: 35">Gyani jiThis is an important article. We need to keep it handy for a number of different controversies that arise in the forum. For example, This paragraph: With the Gurmukhi numeral one, Guru Nanak proclaims right from the&nbsp; beginning, the strict monotheism of the Sikh religion. The structure of the Gurmukhi numeral&nbsp; one contains the Gurmukhi sifr (zero) at the top with a vertical notch coming out of it&nbsp; from the right side which is reminiscent of the old mark of one by the early man all those years&nbsp; ago. The Gurmukhi numeral one, can accordingly be taken as a duality of zero and one. It&nbsp; represents Waheguru in its Nirgun (Zero) state and Sargun (1, one) state: Sargun nirgun&nbsp; nirankār sunn samāī āp (page 290, line 16). The transformation of zero into One occurs with his&nbsp; Word and gives birth to the universe and everything in it (Many) with the God in the center&nbsp; of it: Kīā pasāo ÷ko kavāo. Ŧis ÷ ho÷ lak arīāo (page 3, line 17). When He contracts&nbsp; himself into the Zero state the universe and all the things in it are absorbed back into Him (One):&nbsp; Āp÷ jo vico÷ karā āp÷ mār jīvāiā (page 1034, line 7). This game (leela) of Zero, 1, Zero,&nbsp; 1 is played as He wills: Jā is bāā ā jaga upāiā (page 1036, line 6). In terms of the&nbsp; binary number system,whether the scientists with their clever programs will be able to&nbsp; produce computer simulations of the birth, expansion and contraction of the universe and subsequent&nbsp; births and deaths, nobody on this earth knows.Too often I read that Sikhism is not a monotheistic religion because it is not even a theistic religion. It is often said that, since theism implies there is a God, and because Akaal is nirguna, therefore Sikhism is an &quot;atheistic&quot; belief system. No amount of debate seems to dissuade those who have this point of view. The paragraph is perfect as refutation.&nbsp; From the zero came the One. The transformation of zero into One occurs with his&nbsp; Word and gives birth to the universe and everything in it (Many) with&nbsp; the God in the center&nbsp; of it.Many thanks.Here are the banee quoted above in the paragraph for easier reading. (Note that the transliterations given in the article are not exact.)Ang 290&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;98%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;rmenuheader&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffffec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;ggs&quot;&gt;ਸਰਗੁਨ ਨਿਰਗੁਨ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਸੁੰਨ ਸਮਾਧੀ ਆਪਿ ॥ &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffffec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;subhead&quot;&gt;saragun niragun nirankaar sunn&nbsp; samaadhhee aap ||&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffffec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;shlok&quot;&gt;He&nbsp; possesses all qualities; He transcends all qualities; He is the&nbsp; Formless Lord. He Himself is in Primal Samaadhi.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;rmenuheader&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffecec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;ggs&quot;&gt;ਆਪਨ ਕੀਆ ਨਾਨਕਾ&nbsp; ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਫਿਰਿ ਜਾਪਿ ॥੧॥ &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffecec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;subhead&quot;&gt;aapan keeaa naanakaa aapae hee fir jaap ||1||&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffecec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;shlok&quot;&gt;Through His Creation, O Nanak, He&nbsp; meditates on Himself. ||1||&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Ang 3&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;98%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffffec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;subhead&quot;&gt;keethaa pasaao eaeko kavaao ||&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffffec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;shlok&quot;&gt;You created the vast expanse of the&nbsp; Universe with One Word!&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;rmenuheader&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffecec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;ggs&quot;&gt;ਤਿਸ ਤੇ ਹੋਏ ਲਖ ਦਰੀਆਉ ॥ &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffecec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;subhead&quot;&gt;this thae hoeae lakh dhareeaao ||&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffecec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;shlok&quot;&gt;Hundreds of thousands of rivers&nbsp; began to flow.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Ang 1034&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ਆਪੇ ਜੋੜਿ ਵਿਛੋੜੇ ਕਰਤਾ ਆਪੇ ਮਾਰਿ ਜੀਵਾਇਦਾ ॥੧੫॥&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; aapae jorr vishhorrae karathaa aapae&nbsp; maar jeevaaeidhaa ||15||&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Creator Himself unites and separates;&nbsp; He Himself kills and rejuvenates. ||15||Ang&nbsp; 1036&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;98%&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffecec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;ggs&quot;&gt;ਜਾ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਣਾ ਤਾ ਜਗਤੁ ਉਪਾਇਆ ॥ &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffecec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;subhead&quot;&gt;jaa this bhaanaa thaa jagath&nbsp; oupaaeiaa ||&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffecec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;shlok&quot;&gt;When&nbsp; He so willed, He created the world.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;rmenuheader&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffffec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;ggs&quot;&gt;ਬਾਝੁ ਕਲਾ ਆਡਾਣੁ&nbsp; ਰਹਾਇਆ ॥ &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffffec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;subhead&quot;&gt;baajh&nbsp; kalaa aaddaan rehaaeiaa ||&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr bgcolor=&quot;#ffffec&quot;&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;shlok&quot;&gt;Without any supporting power, He sustained the universe.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="spnadmin, post: 126628, member: 35"] Gyani ji This is an important article. We need to keep it handy for a number of different controversies that arise in the forum. For example, This paragraph: [COLOR=Sienna]With the Gurmukhi numeral one, Guru Nanak proclaims right from the beginning, the strict monotheism of the Sikh religion. The structure of the Gurmukhi numeral one contains the Gurmukhi sifr (zero) at the top with a vertical notch coming out of it from the right side which is reminiscent of the old mark of one by the early man all those years ago. The Gurmukhi numeral one, can accordingly be taken as a duality of zero and one. It represents Waheguru in its Nirgun (Zero) state and Sargun (1, one) state: Sargun nirgun nirankār sunn samāī āp (page 290, line 16). The transformation of zero into One occurs with his Word and gives birth to the universe and everything in it (Many) with the God in the center of it: Kīā pasāo ÷ko kavāo. Ŧis ÷ ho÷ lak arīāo (page 3, line 17). When He contracts himself into the Zero state the universe and all the things in it are absorbed back into Him (One): Āp÷ jo vico÷ karā āp÷ mār jīvāiā (page 1034, line 7). This game (leela) of Zero, 1, Zero, 1 is played as He wills: Jā is bāā ā jaga upāiā (page 1036, line 6). In terms of the binary number system,whether the scientists with their clever programs will be able to produce computer simulations of the birth, expansion and contraction of the universe and subsequent births and deaths, nobody on this earth knows.[/COLOR] Too often I read that Sikhism is not a monotheistic religion because it is not even a theistic religion. It is often said that, since theism implies there is a God, and because Akaal is nirguna, therefore Sikhism is an "atheistic" belief system. No amount of debate seems to dissuade those who have this point of view. The paragraph is perfect as refutation. From the zero came the One. [COLOR=Sienna]The transformation of zero into One occurs with his Word and gives birth to the universe and everything in it (Many) with the God in the center of it. [COLOR=Black]Many thanks. Here are the banee quoted above in the paragraph for easier reading. (Note that the transliterations given in the article are not exact.) Ang 290 [/COLOR][/COLOR]<table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="98%"><tbody><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਸਰਗੁਨ ਨਿਰਗੁਨ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਸੁੰਨ ਸਮਾਧੀ ਆਪਿ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">saragun niragun nirankaar sunn samaadhhee aap || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">He possesses all qualities; He transcends all qualities; He is the Formless Lord. He Himself is in Primal Samaadhi. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਆਪਨ ਕੀਆ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਫਿਰਿ ਜਾਪਿ ॥੧॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">aapan keeaa naanakaa aapae hee fir jaap ||1|| </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Through His Creation, O Nanak, He meditates on Himself. ||1||</td></tr></tbody></table> [COLOR=Sienna][COLOR=Black] Ang 3 [/COLOR][/COLOR]<table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="98%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">keethaa pasaao eaeko kavaao || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">You created the vast expanse of the Universe with One Word! </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਤਿਸ ਤੇ ਹੋਏ ਲਖ ਦਰੀਆਉ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">this thae hoeae lakh dhareeaao || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Hundreds of thousands of rivers began to flow.</td></tr></tbody></table> Ang 1034 ਆਪੇ ਜੋੜਿ ਵਿਛੋੜੇ ਕਰਤਾ ਆਪੇ ਮਾਰਿ ਜੀਵਾਇਦਾ ॥੧੫॥ aapae jorr vishhorrae karathaa aapae maar jeevaaeidhaa ||15|| The Creator Himself unites and separates; He Himself kills and rejuvenates. ||15|| Ang 1036 <table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="98%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਜਾ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਣਾ ਤਾ ਜਗਤੁ ਉਪਾਇਆ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">jaa this bhaanaa thaa jagath oupaaeiaa || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">When He so willed, He created the world. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਬਾਝੁ ਕਲਾ ਆਡਾਣੁ ਰਹਾਇਆ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">baajh kalaa aaddaan rehaaeiaa || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">Without any supporting power, He sustained the universe.</td></tr></tbody></table> [/QUOTE]

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