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<blockquote data-quote="Cool" data-source="post: 53980" data-attributes="member: 4772"><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange">Why Should We Understand Naam or Shabad</span></span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange">Creation And Causes</span></span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">The holy book is the insignia of the word [bani] of the ten Gurus/Nanaks who were the incarnations of the <em>word [Shabad]</em><em>. The Bani can , therefore, be treated as from single obvious and logical source, the creator.</em></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">The created</span></span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue"> universe is the manifestation of His Name</span>. </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">The Creator </span>who created this creation-only He Himself knows the cause for this.</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"> The limits of the created universe cannot be perceived. </span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">By the Hukam of His Command, all are created and by His Command all the actions are performed. He created the Universe from His Own Being.</span><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn1" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue">[1]</span></a> </span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">He is the creator of the incarnations and the coming and going of the human beings. He is the sustainer and the enjoyer, he is the one who created Maya and put in ‘egotism’ in the Human beings. He is the one who grace the Gurmukhs and is the one who enjoys the creation. He created Himself out of Himself. He is the cause of all causes. He has spread the ‘Maya’ in which creation and has caused the attachment amongst the creation. No one knows the reason of this creation. He maintains His creation and enjoys this drama. He is above all. He is the one whose Grace [Nadar] can make us realize Him. He is beyond description. Human mind and intelligence fails to understand Him. This creation runs as per His order and His command. No one is outside the scope of His command. No one can ever be. He is the creator and He will destroy it as and when He likes. He cannot be put in words. He is self- existent and is pervasive. He is Sat and the rst is an illusion as everything else is changing. Whatever praise I may write would be insufficient and hence I give up right away. Any praise that you and me can think of will be inadequate to express His qualities. You may also give up and be thankful for everything that you have and everything that you don’t. He knows what is the best for us and will always bless us with.</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Shabad and Creations</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">Entire expanse was created by one ‘Shabad’.</span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"> ਕੀਤਾ ਪਸਾਉ ਏਕੋ ਕਵਾਉ</span></span> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">“One can know HIM through the Guru’s word</span><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn2" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue">[2]</span></a><span style="color: blue">. </span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Guru Nanak ji has repeatedly laid the significance of Naam/Name.”</span> </span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">One who realizes the Shabad of the One who created the creation - Nanak is his slave</span><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn3" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue">[3]</span></a><span style="color: blue">”. </span></span><span style="color: blue"> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Injecting the poison of egotism this world was created and with the Shabad enshrined within the poison is eliminated<a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn4" target="_blank">[4]</a>. </span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">ਉਤਭੁਜੁ ਚਲਤੁ ਕੀਆ ਸਿਰਿ ਕਰਤੈ ਬਿਸਮਾਦੁ ਸਬਦਿ ਦੇਖਾਇਦਾ ॥੭॥</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">[</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">The Supreme Creator created the play of Nature; through the Word of His Shabad, He stages His Wondrous Show.</span><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn5" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue">[5]</span></a><span style="color: blue"> ]</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">It is not possible for us to comprehend HIS creation. He Himself is capable of understanding this. We can just contemplate on HIS words and get across this terrifying ocean Of the World. </span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'"><span style="color: blue">· </span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">ਜਿਨਿ ਕਿਛੁ ਕੀਆ ਸੋਈ ਜਾਣੈ ਸਬਦੁ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ਭਉ ਸਾਗਰੁ ਤਰੈ ॥</span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">The One who created this, He alone understands. Contemplating the Word of the Shabad, one is carried across the terrifying world-ocean<a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn6" target="_blank">[6]</a>. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਵੀਸਰੈ ਜਿਨਿ ਸਿਰਿਆ ਸਭੁ ਕੋਇ ॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">O Nanak, do not forget the Naam, the Name of the Lord, which has created everyone</span><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn7" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue">[7]</span></a><span style="color: blue">. </span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">The word ‘Word/Shabad’ has appeared for the first time in the following.There is no exp[licit mention of the Name of Lord/Naam in the following,the interpretor has while interpreting has taken the meaning to be slightly different from the one that would be inferred by a person of ordinary intelligence, as per my understanding</span></span><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">[8]</span></span></a><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">.</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਦੰ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਵੇਦੰ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਸਮਾਈ ॥ ਗੁਰੁ ਈਸਰੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੋਰਖੁ ਬਰਮਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਪਾਰਬਤੀ ਮਾਈ ॥[page 2]</span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">As per Teeka of Sahib singh ji this would mean:</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipi'">ArQ:- </span></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolLipi'">(pr aus r`b dw) <span style="color: #ff6600">nwm qy igAwn</span> gurU dI rwhIN (pRwpq huMdw hY)[ gurU dI rwhIN hI (ieh prqIq AwauNdI hY ik) auh hrI sB QweIN ivAwpk hY[ gurU hI (swfy leI) iSv hY, gurU hI (swfy leI) gorK qy bRhmw hY Aqy gurU hI (swfy leI) mweI pwrbqI hY[</span></strong></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">The word/Name of God appears on the again on the second page [ bani of Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaj].It has appeared in the followings as well.</span></strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਸਿਧ ਪੀਰ ਸੁਰਿ ਨਾਥ ॥ ਸੁਣਿਐ ਧਰਤਿ ਧਵਲ ਆਕਾਸ ॥ ਸੁਣਿਐ ਦੀਪ ਲੋਅ ਪਾਤਾਲ ॥ ਸੁਣਿਐ ਪੋਹਿ ਨ ਸਕੈ ਕਾਲੁ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਭਗਤਾ ਸਦਾ ਵਿਗਾਸੁ ॥ ਸੁਣਿਐ ਦੂਖ ਪਾਪ ਕਾ ਨਾਸੁ ॥੮॥</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">ArQ:- hy nwnk! (Akwl purK dy nwm ivc suriq joVn vwly) Bgq jnW dy ihrdy ivc sdw iKVwau bixAw rihMdw hY, (ikaNik) aus dI is&iq-swlwh suxn kr ky (mnu`K dy) du`KW qy pwpW dw nws ho jWdw hY[ ieh nwm ihrdy ivc itkx dI hI brkiq hY ik (swdwrn mnu`K) is`DW, pIrW, dyviqAW qy nwQW dI pdvI pw lYNdy hn qy auhnW ƒ ieh soJI ho jwNdI hY ik DrqI AwkwS dw Awsrw auh pRØBU hY, jo swry dIpW, lokW, pwqwlW ivc ivAwpk hY[8[</span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: darkorange">Some Comments and observations </span></strong> </p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">The above clearly means that by keeping oneself drenched in the Name of Lord one can be elevated spritually to a higher levels of spritualism. Such magnificient is the Name of Lord,we find the Name of lord / Naam being employed by Guru Nanak dev ji at the beginning of Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj mere sache patsha jeo. This shows that ‘Naam’ for sikhs is of central importance.Generally by ‘Naam’ we would mean as to referring to the name of Almighy by whichever name called. Upto this point there is nothing to suggest that He should be addressed by any specific name. The Naam also removes the fear of death from the mind of the one who listens to His name. (2-17, japu, m- 1)]The above translation of Sahib singh ji asumes many things that is not explicitly contained in the above pauri.However, without indulgence it would form the basis as the above commentary is fairly read. The author stresses upon the same fact that the usage of ‘Naam’ whether in explict or implicit way far exceeds the normal expectation in the Bani. The experts, in their translations have assumed something else to be present in the bani . In any case this reinforces the fact that the ‘ naam’/name of the lord’ is of central importance as the beginning Of Sriguru </span><span style="color: blue">Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj mere sache patsha jeo. </span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong><span style="color: blue">If a person reaches the stage that one starts loving the’naam’ then one gets enlightenment and the mind which is lost in the jungle of ‘Maya’ disassociates itself from it and one understands that He is al pervasive. Such a person also is entitled for salvation. This is ,however, known to the</span><span style="color: blue"> one who establishes the Lord’s name in one’s mind. His name is far above the spell of ‘Maya’ or ‘Maya-jaal’. Such a person is spritually arousd to higher levels. One who is imbued in the love of ‘naam’ also uderstands that it is difficult to describe His vastness as this cannot be done</span>. <span style="color: blue">One also lead a very peaceful and happy life while drenched in His love.It is told to us that we should remember Him like a coin is repeatedly minted.</span></strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue"><span style="color: darkorange">‘</span>Naam’/Shabad is considered to be the cause of entire creation and hence He could be remembered through it. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange">Other References only for Illustration purposes</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'"><span style="color: #0000ff">· </span></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਵਡਭਾਗੀ ਪਾਈ ਨਾਮੁ ਸਖਾਈ ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਰਾਮਿ ਉਪਾਈਆ ॥੧॥</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">By great good fortune, the body is obtained; the Naam, the Name of the Lord, is its companion; O servant Nanak, the Lord has created it</span><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn9" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue">[9]</span></a><span style="color: blue">. [</span><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=575&english=t&id=25303#l25303" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue">Page 575, Line 8</span></a><span style="color: blue">Guru Ram Das] ]</span></span> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">It is clear that ‘Naam/shabad’ etc, when employed in Gurbani would have direct or indirect allusion to the almighty. It is the only possible way of expressing our gratitude to HIM. I have not seen HIM and hence how should one address Him. It is through Shabad/Naam that it can be done. What ‘naam‘ should be practiced is a different question altogether.Sikhs believe in some names like ‘waheguru’ and ‘satnam’ etc</span></span><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn10" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">[10]</span></span></a><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">.These are the two words that the author feels are employed for simran as well. However, there seems to be no hard rule as per the scriptures. It would be the previledge of many if someone can throw light on the ‘name’ that one may practise for the purpose of meditating on HIM.Guru Sahiban has issued a writ that we should r</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">ecognize the Shabad, and do not think that the Lord is far away</span></span><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn11" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">[11]</span></span></a><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">.</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: darkorange">P.S.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: darkred">I do not consider it as any original work.I am just studying and I am just sharing this with you all. Iam reponsible for all the mistakes.I also do understand that some readers may not subscribe to the views as expreessed here. It cannot be the intention of the author to hurt anyone. In case ,due to ignorance, it has happened I may kkindly be forgiven.Your choice would be my pleasure.In any case we are discussing something about The Nameless and the Formless. </span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: darkorange"><u>Bonus as usual</u></span></span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Enjoy the following till we meet…………………………….I have recd. it from a friend and do not know the source.</span></em></p><p><span style="color: darkorange"><strong><u><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Food for thought:</span></u> </strong></span></p><p><strong><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The Ripple Effect</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">The Spiritual Master was walking through the fields one day when a young man, a troubled look upon his face, approached him. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"On such a beautiful day, it must be difficult to stay so serious," the Master said. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"Is it? I hadn't noticed," the young man said, turning to look around and notice his surroundings. His eyes scanned the landscape, but nothing seemed to register; his mind elsewhere. Watching intently, the Master continued to walk. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"Join me if you like." The Master walked to the edge of a still pond, framed by sycamore trees, their leaves golden orange and about to fall. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"Please sit down," the Master invited, patting the ground next to him. Looking carefully before sitting, the young man brushed the ground to clear a space for himself. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"Now, find a small stone, please," the Master instructed. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"What?" </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"A stone. Please find a small stone and throw it in the pond." </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">Searching around him, the young man grabbed a pebble and threw it as far as he could. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"Tell me what you see," the Master instructed. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">Straining his eyes to not miss a single detail, the man looked at the water's surface. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"I see ripples." </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"Where did the ripples come from?" </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"From the pebble I threw in the pond, Master." </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"Please reach your hand into the water and stop the ripples," the Master asked. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">Not understanding, the young man stuck his hand in the water as a ripple neared, only to cause more ripples. The young man was now completely baffled. Where was this going? Had he made a mistake in seeking out the Master? After all he was not a student, perhaps he could not be helped? Puzzled, the young man waited. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"Were you able to stop the ripples with your hands?" the Master asked. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"No, of course not." </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"Could you have stopped the ripples, then?" </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"No, Master. I told you I only caused more ripples." </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"What if you had stopped the pebble from entering the water to begin with?" The Master smiled such a beautiful smile; the young man could not be upset. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"Next time you are unhappy with your life, catch the stone before it hits the water. Do not spend time trying to undo what you have done. Rather, change what you are going to do before you do it." The Master looked kindly upon the young man. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"But Master, how will I know what I am going to do before I do it?" </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"Take the responsibility for living your own life. If you're working with a doctor to treat an illness, then ask the doctor to help you understand what caused the illness. Do not just treat the ripples. Keep asking questions." The young man stopped, his mind reeling. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"But I came to you to ask you for answers. Are you saying that I know the answers?" </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"You may not know the answers right now, but if you ask the right questions, then you shall discover the answers." </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"But what are the right questions, Master?"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue">"There are no wrong questions, only unasked ones. We must ask, for without asking, we cannot receive answers. But it is your responsibility to ask. No one else can do that for you."</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: blue">- Author Unknown</span></span></p><p><strong><em><span style="font-family: 'Geneva'"><strong><u><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: blue">"The choices we make in thought, word and deed inevitably return to us in kind."</span></span></u></strong></span></em></strong> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Bhul Chuk Maaf ji,</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: blue">It is not properly edited. Kindly bear. In this kind of work there are bound to be many errors, you may please forgive me </span></span></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">To Be contd………………………….</span></span> </strong></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref1" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #800080">[1]</span></span></strong></a><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> <strong>[See: page 668 line 12Guru Ram Das]</strong></span></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref2" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #800080">[2]</span></span></strong></a><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">[ </span><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=82&english=t&id=3291#l3291" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Page 82, Line 15</span></a><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">.</span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Guru Ram Das] </span></strong></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref3" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #800080">[3]</span></span></strong></a><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> <strong>[See: <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=940&english=t&id=40273#l40273" target="_blank">Page 940, Line 7</a></strong><strong>Guru Nanak Dev]</strong></span></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref4" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #800080">[4]</span></span></strong></a><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> [See: </span><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=1009&english=t&id=43183#l43183" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Page 1009, Line 18</span></a><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Guru Nanak Dev ]</span></strong> </p><p> </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref5" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #800080">[5]</span></span></strong></a><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> [See:</span><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=1037&english=t&id=44406#l44406" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Page 1037, Line 18</span></a><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">,Guru Nanak Dev ] </span></strong></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref6" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #800080">[6]</span></span></strong></a><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> [</span><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=1342&english=t&id=57335#l57335" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Page 1342, Line 3</span></a><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Guru Nanak Dev] </span></strong></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref7" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #800080">[7]</span></span></strong></a><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> [ Page 1420, Line 14 Amar Das]</span></strong></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref8" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #800080">[8]</span></span></strong></a><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> I have stated this as per my own limited intellect.</span></strong></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref9" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #800080">[9]</span></span></a><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> Page 575 Line 8</span></strong></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref10" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #800080">[10]</span></span></strong></a><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> The author could not dig any scriptural reference indicating to these names except that Satnam appears in Mool Mantra that is touched in this write up for the sake of completeness.</span></strong></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref11" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #800080">[11]</span></span></strong></a><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> [See Page 581]</span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cool, post: 53980, member: 4772"] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][COLOR=darkorange]Why Should We Understand Naam or Shabad[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][COLOR=darkorange]Creation And Causes[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial]The holy book is the insignia of the word [bani] of the ten Gurus/Nanaks who were the incarnations of the [I]word [Shabad][/I][I]. The Bani can , therefore, be treated as from single obvious and logical source, the creator.[/I][/FONT][COLOR=blue][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]The created[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue] universe is the manifestation of His Name[/COLOR]. [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]The Creator [/COLOR]who created this creation-only He Himself knows the cause for this.[/FONT][FONT=Arial] The limits of the created universe cannot be perceived. [/FONT][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/B] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]By the Hukam of His Command, all are created and by His Command all the actions are performed. He created the Universe from His Own Being.[/COLOR][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn1"][COLOR=blue][1][/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=blue] [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#ff6600][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]He is the creator of the incarnations and the coming and going of the human beings. He is the sustainer and the enjoyer, he is the one who created Maya and put in ‘egotism’ in the Human beings. He is the one who grace the Gurmukhs and is the one who enjoys the creation. He created Himself out of Himself. He is the cause of all causes. He has spread the ‘Maya’ in which creation and has caused the attachment amongst the creation. No one knows the reason of this creation. He maintains His creation and enjoys this drama. He is above all. He is the one whose Grace [Nadar] can make us realize Him. He is beyond description. Human mind and intelligence fails to understand Him. This creation runs as per His order and His command. No one is outside the scope of His command. No one can ever be. He is the creator and He will destroy it as and when He likes. He cannot be put in words. He is self- existent and is pervasive. He is Sat and the rst is an illusion as everything else is changing. Whatever praise I may write would be insufficient and hence I give up right away. Any praise that you and me can think of will be inadequate to express His qualities. You may also give up and be thankful for everything that you have and everything that you don’t. He knows what is the best for us and will always bless us with.[/COLOR][/FONT][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial]Shabad and Creations[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]Entire expanse was created by one ‘Shabad’.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolUniPr] ਕੀਤਾ ਪਸਾਉ ਏਕੋ ਕਵਾਉ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr] [/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Arial] [/FONT][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]“One can know HIM through the Guru’s word[/COLOR][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn2"][COLOR=blue][2][/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=blue]. [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial]Guru Nanak ji has repeatedly laid the significance of Naam/Name.”[/FONT][FONT=Arial] [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]One who realizes the Shabad of the One who created the creation - Nanak is his slave[/COLOR][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn3"][COLOR=blue][3][/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=blue]”. [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial] [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Injecting the poison of egotism this world was created and with the Shabad enshrined within the poison is eliminated[URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn4"][4][/URL]. [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolUniPr]ਉਤਭੁਜੁ ਚਲਤੁ ਕੀਆ ਸਿਰਿ ਕਰਤੈ ਬਿਸਮਾਦੁ ਸਬਦਿ ਦੇਖਾਇਦਾ ॥੭॥[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][FONT=Arial] [COLOR=blue][[/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]The Supreme Creator created the play of Nature; through the Word of His Shabad, He stages His Wondrous Show.[/COLOR][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn5"][COLOR=blue][5][/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=blue] ][/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]It is not possible for us to comprehend HIS creation. He Himself is capable of understanding this. We can just contemplate on HIS words and get across this terrifying ocean Of the World. [/COLOR][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Symbol][COLOR=blue]· [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolUniPr]ਜਿਨਿ ਕਿਛੁ ਕੀਆ ਸੋਈ ਜਾਣੈ ਸਬਦੁ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ਭਉ ਸਾਗਰੁ ਤਰੈ ॥ [/FONT][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial]The One who created this, He alone understands. Contemplating the Word of the Shabad, one is carried across the terrifying world-ocean[URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn6"][6][/URL]. [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=AnmolUniPr]ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਵੀਸਰੈ ਜਿਨਿ ਸਿਰਿਆ ਸਭੁ ਕੋਇ ॥[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Arial] [/FONT][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]O Nanak, do not forget the Naam, the Name of the Lord, which has created everyone[/COLOR][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn7"][COLOR=blue][7][/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=blue]. [/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=windowtext][/COLOR] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]The word ‘Word/Shabad’ has appeared for the first time in the following.There is no exp[licit mention of the Name of Lord/Naam in the following,the interpretor has while interpreting has taken the meaning to be slightly different from the one that would be inferred by a person of ordinary intelligence, as per my understanding[/COLOR][/FONT][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn8"][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue][8][/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue].[/COLOR][/FONT][/B] [COLOR=blue][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][FONT=AnmolUniPr]ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਦੰ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਵੇਦੰ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਸਮਾਈ ॥ ਗੁਰੁ ਈਸਰੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੋਰਖੁ ਬਰਮਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਪਾਰਬਤੀ ਮਾਈ ॥[page 2][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]As per Teeka of Sahib singh ji this would mean:[/COLOR][/FONT][/B] [B][B][COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolLipi]ArQ:- [/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=AnmolLipi](pr aus r`b dw) [COLOR=#ff6600]nwm qy igAwn[/COLOR] gurU dI rwhIN (pRwpq huMdw hY)[ gurU dI rwhIN hI (ieh prqIq AwauNdI hY ik) auh hrI sB QweIN ivAwpk hY[ gurU hI (swfy leI) iSv hY, gurU hI (swfy leI) gorK qy bRhmw hY Aqy gurU hI (swfy leI) mweI pwrbqI hY[[/FONT][/B][/B] [B][FONT=Arial]The word/Name of God appears on the again on the second page [ bani of Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaj].It has appeared in the followings as well.[/FONT][/B] [COLOR=#0000ff][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][FONT=AnmolUniPr]ਸੁਣਿਐ ਸਿਧ ਪੀਰ ਸੁਰਿ ਨਾਥ ॥ ਸੁਣਿਐ ਧਰਤਿ ਧਵਲ ਆਕਾਸ ॥ ਸੁਣਿਐ ਦੀਪ ਲੋਅ ਪਾਤਾਲ ॥ ਸੁਣਿਐ ਪੋਹਿ ਨ ਸਕੈ ਕਾਲੁ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਭਗਤਾ ਸਦਾ ਵਿਗਾਸੁ ॥ ਸੁਣਿਐ ਦੂਖ ਪਾਪ ਕਾ ਨਾਸੁ ॥੮॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][FONT=AnmolUniPr] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=windowtext][FONT=AnmolUniPr]ArQ:- hy nwnk! (Akwl purK dy nwm ivc suriq joVn vwly) Bgq jnW dy ihrdy ivc sdw iKVwau bixAw rihMdw hY, (ikaNik) aus dI is&iq-swlwh suxn kr ky (mnu`K dy) du`KW qy pwpW dw nws ho jWdw hY[ ieh nwm ihrdy ivc itkx dI hI brkiq hY ik (swdwrn mnu`K) is`DW, pIrW, dyviqAW qy nwQW dI pdvI pw lYNdy hn qy auhnW ƒ ieh soJI ho jwNdI hY ik DrqI AwkwS dw Awsrw auh pRØBU hY, jo swry dIpW, lokW, pwqwlW ivc ivAwpk hY[8[[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][FONT=AnmolUniPr][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=darkorange]Some Comments and observations [/COLOR][/B][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff] [/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=#0000ff][FONT=AnmolUniPr][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=blue][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]The above clearly means that by keeping oneself drenched in the Name of Lord one can be elevated spritually to a higher levels of spritualism. Such magnificient is the Name of Lord,we find the Name of lord / Naam being employed by Guru Nanak dev ji at the beginning of Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj mere sache patsha jeo. This shows that ‘Naam’ for sikhs is of central importance.Generally by ‘Naam’ we would mean as to referring to the name of Almighy by whichever name called. Upto this point there is nothing to suggest that He should be addressed by any specific name. The Naam also removes the fear of death from the mind of the one who listens to His name. (2-17, japu, m- 1)]The above translation of Sahib singh ji asumes many things that is not explicitly contained in the above pauri.However, without indulgence it would form the basis as the above commentary is fairly read. The author stresses upon the same fact that the usage of ‘Naam’ whether in explict or implicit way far exceeds the normal expectation in the Bani. The experts, in their translations have assumed something else to be present in the bani . In any case this reinforces the fact that the ‘ naam’/name of the lord’ is of central importance as the beginning Of Sriguru [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj mere sache patsha jeo. [/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=windowtext][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][B][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][B][/B][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][B][COLOR=blue]If a person reaches the stage that one starts loving the’naam’ then one gets enlightenment and the mind which is lost in the jungle of ‘Maya’ disassociates itself from it and one understands that He is al pervasive. Such a person also is entitled for salvation. This is ,however, known to the[/COLOR][COLOR=blue] one who establishes the Lord’s name in one’s mind. His name is far above the spell of ‘Maya’ or ‘Maya-jaal’. Such a person is spritually arousd to higher levels. One who is imbued in the love of ‘naam’ also uderstands that it is difficult to describe His vastness as this cannot be done[/COLOR]. [COLOR=blue]One also lead a very peaceful and happy life while drenched in His love.It is told to us that we should remember Him like a coin is repeatedly minted.[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue][COLOR=darkorange][/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue][COLOR=darkorange]‘[/COLOR]Naam’/Shabad is considered to be the cause of entire creation and hence He could be remembered through it. [/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial] [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][COLOR=darkorange]Other References only for Illustration purposes[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff] [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Symbol][COLOR=#0000ff]· [/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਵਡਭਾਗੀ ਪਾਈ ਨਾਮੁ ਸਖਾਈ ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਰਾਮਿ ਉਪਾਈਆ ॥੧॥ [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]By great good fortune, the body is obtained; the Naam, the Name of the Lord, is its companion; O servant Nanak, the Lord has created it[/COLOR][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn9"][COLOR=blue][9][/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=blue]. [[/COLOR][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=575&english=t&id=25303#l25303"][COLOR=windowtext][COLOR=blue]Page 575, Line 8[/COLOR][/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=blue]Guru Ram Das] ][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=blue] [/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue] [/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]It is clear that ‘Naam/shabad’ etc, when employed in Gurbani would have direct or indirect allusion to the almighty. It is the only possible way of expressing our gratitude to HIM. I have not seen HIM and hence how should one address Him. It is through Shabad/Naam that it can be done. What ‘naam‘ should be practiced is a different question altogether.Sikhs believe in some names like ‘waheguru’ and ‘satnam’ etc[/COLOR][/FONT][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn10"][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue][10][/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue].These are the two words that the author feels are employed for simran as well. However, there seems to be no hard rule as per the scriptures. It would be the previledge of many if someone can throw light on the ‘name’ that one may practise for the purpose of meditating on HIM.Guru Sahiban has issued a writ that we should r[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]ecognize the Shabad, and do not think that the Lord is far away[/COLOR][/FONT][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftn11"][FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue][11][/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][FONT=Arial].[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=windowtext][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=darkorange]P.S.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=darkred]I do not consider it as any original work.I am just studying and I am just sharing this with you all. Iam reponsible for all the mistakes.I also do understand that some readers may not subscribe to the views as expreessed here. It cannot be the intention of the author to hurt anyone. In case ,due to ignorance, it has happened I may kkindly be forgiven.Your choice would be my pleasure.In any case we are discussing something about The Nameless and the Formless. [/COLOR][/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=darkorange][U]Bonus as usual[/U][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [I][FONT=Verdana]Enjoy the following till we meet…………………………….I have recd. it from a friend and do not know the source.[/FONT][/I] [COLOR=darkorange][B][U][FONT=Verdana]Food for thought:[/FONT][/U][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=darkorange][FONT=Verdana]The Ripple Effect[/FONT][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]The Spiritual Master was walking through the fields one day when a young man, a troubled look upon his face, approached him. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"On such a beautiful day, it must be difficult to stay so serious," the Master said. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"Is it? I hadn't noticed," the young man said, turning to look around and notice his surroundings. His eyes scanned the landscape, but nothing seemed to register; his mind elsewhere. Watching intently, the Master continued to walk. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"Join me if you like." The Master walked to the edge of a still pond, framed by sycamore trees, their leaves golden orange and about to fall. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"Please sit down," the Master invited, patting the ground next to him. Looking carefully before sitting, the young man brushed the ground to clear a space for himself. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"Now, find a small stone, please," the Master instructed. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"What?" [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"A stone. Please find a small stone and throw it in the pond." [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]Searching around him, the young man grabbed a pebble and threw it as far as he could. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"Tell me what you see," the Master instructed. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]Straining his eyes to not miss a single detail, the man looked at the water's surface. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"I see ripples." [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"Where did the ripples come from?" [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"From the pebble I threw in the pond, Master." [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"Please reach your hand into the water and stop the ripples," the Master asked. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]Not understanding, the young man stuck his hand in the water as a ripple neared, only to cause more ripples. The young man was now completely baffled. Where was this going? Had he made a mistake in seeking out the Master? After all he was not a student, perhaps he could not be helped? Puzzled, the young man waited. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"Were you able to stop the ripples with your hands?" the Master asked. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"No, of course not." [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"Could you have stopped the ripples, then?" [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"No, Master. I told you I only caused more ripples." [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"What if you had stopped the pebble from entering the water to begin with?" The Master smiled such a beautiful smile; the young man could not be upset. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"Next time you are unhappy with your life, catch the stone before it hits the water. Do not spend time trying to undo what you have done. Rather, change what you are going to do before you do it." The Master looked kindly upon the young man. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"But Master, how will I know what I am going to do before I do it?" [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"Take the responsibility for living your own life. If you're working with a doctor to treat an illness, then ask the doctor to help you understand what caused the illness. Do not just treat the ripples. Keep asking questions." The young man stopped, his mind reeling. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"But I came to you to ask you for answers. Are you saying that I know the answers?" [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"You may not know the answers right now, but if you ask the right questions, then you shall discover the answers." [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"But what are the right questions, Master?"[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]"There are no wrong questions, only unasked ones. We must ask, for without asking, we cannot receive answers. But it is your responsibility to ask. No one else can do that for you."[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=blue]- Author Unknown[/COLOR][/FONT] [B][I][FONT=Geneva][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/FONT][B][U][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=blue]"The choices we make in thought, word and deed inevitably return to us in kind."[/COLOR][/FONT][/U][/B][/FONT][/I][/B][B][I][U][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue] [/COLOR][/FONT][/U][/I][/B][B][I][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/FONT][/I][/B] [FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial]Bhul Chuk Maaf ji,[/FONT][/B] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=blue]It is not properly edited. Kindly bear. In this kind of work there are bound to be many errors, you may please forgive me [/COLOR][/FONT] [B][COLOR=blue][FONT='Times New Roman']To Be contd………………………….[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref1"][B][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#800080][1][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/URL][FONT=Times New Roman][B] [/B][B][See: page 668 line 12Guru Ram Das][/B][/FONT] [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref2"][B][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#800080][2][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/URL][B][FONT=Times New Roman][ [/FONT][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=82&english=t&id=3291#l3291"][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Times New Roman]Page 82, Line 15[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][FONT=Times New Roman].[/FONT][/B][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Guru Ram Das] [/FONT][/B] [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref3"][B][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#800080][3][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/URL][FONT=Times New Roman][B] [/B][B][See: [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=940&english=t&id=40273#l40273"][COLOR=windowtext]Page 940, Line 7[/COLOR][/URL][/B][B]Guru Nanak Dev][/B][/FONT] [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref4"][B][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#800080][4][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/URL][B][FONT=Times New Roman] [See: [/FONT][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=1009&english=t&id=43183#l43183"][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Times New Roman]Page 1009, Line 18[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][FONT=Times New Roman]Guru Nanak Dev ][/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT] [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref5"][B][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#800080][5][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/URL][B][FONT=Times New Roman] [See:[/FONT][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=1037&english=t&id=44406#l44406"][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Times New Roman]Page 1037, Line 18[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][FONT=Times New Roman],Guru Nanak Dev ] [/FONT][/B] [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref6"][B][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#800080][6][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/URL][B][FONT=Times New Roman] [[/FONT][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=1342&english=t&id=57335#l57335"][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Times New Roman]Page 1342, Line 3[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][FONT=Times New Roman]Guru Nanak Dev] [/FONT][/B] [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref7"][B][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#800080][7][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/URL][B][FONT=Times New Roman] [ Page 1420, Line 14 Amar Das][/FONT][/B] [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref8"][B][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#800080][8][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/URL][B][FONT=Times New Roman] I have stated this as per my own limited intellect.[/FONT][/B] [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref9"][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#800080][9][/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][B][FONT=Times New Roman] Page 575 Line 8[/FONT][/B] [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref10"][B][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#800080][10][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/URL][B][FONT=Times New Roman] The author could not dig any scriptural reference indicating to these names except that Satnam appears in Mool Mantra that is touched in this write up for the sake of completeness.[/FONT][/B] [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/15297-need-guidance-in-understanding-line-sggs-3.html#_ftnref11"][B][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#800080][11][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/URL][B][FONT=Times New Roman] [See Page 581][/FONT][/B] [/QUOTE]
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