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Guru Granth Sahib
Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="sunmukh" data-source="post: 135738" data-attributes="member: 11050"><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Ek OnKaar Sat Naam</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Dear Narayanjot Bhen ji </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">You have chosen to ask me not to post Gurbani yet it is only Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji that I am interested in, and interested in learning from. I am neither interested in scholars, theologians, or politicians. They are all motivated by factors unrelated to Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji . Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji ji is there, and if they wish to expound the teachings of my Guru then great. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">However they do not wish to, and instead wish to argue with each other over side documents, how situations arose, how they can be dealt with, and how they can come out on top. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I am sorry to disappoint but I am not willing to provide you with the examples that you request. I don’t trust statements of Sikh history at all and this is one of main reasons why I don’t attend gurdwaras anymore. They are places to play the game of one upmanship, using manipulated and edited renditions of unreliable history, rather than stages for assisting Sikhs to make spiritual progress, and uniting Sikhs with each other and to unite them to their fellow non-sikhs. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">They are buildings in which divide and rule policies are discussed and professed, whilst Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is all about removing the very duality that they seek to reinforce through their anger, hatred, jealousy and envy of each other, and interest in coming out on top. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">It is exactly because of all these various issues discussed in the article that makes it pointless to even contemplate any examples outside Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, and why they should be ignored by Sikhs interested in higher levels of spiritual consciousness and liberation from the cycle of reincarnation. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Sources external to Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji are completely unreliable. Many of them will be manipulated stories based on rumour, hearsay and figments of peoples imaginations, as well as deliberate insertions into Sikh history. It is best for Sikhs with spiritual interests to rely only upon the eternal Guru, Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. There are original birs which support authenticity of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">A Sikhs needs to detach themselves from political games if he/she is to see the light emanating from Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. The games will never end, but the opportunity afforded by human life will. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">If you think that is an esoteric viewpoint that is up to you.Whether it is of the East or West shouldn't matter.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Sat Sri Akal</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sunmukh, post: 135738, member: 11050"] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Ek OnKaar Sat Naam[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Dear Narayanjot Bhen ji [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]You have chosen to ask me not to post Gurbani yet it is only Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji that I am interested in, and interested in learning from. I am neither interested in scholars, theologians, or politicians. They are all motivated by factors unrelated to Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji . Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji ji is there, and if they wish to expound the teachings of my Guru then great. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]However they do not wish to, and instead wish to argue with each other over side documents, how situations arose, how they can be dealt with, and how they can come out on top. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I am sorry to disappoint but I am not willing to provide you with the examples that you request. I don’t trust statements of Sikh history at all and this is one of main reasons why I don’t attend gurdwaras anymore. They are places to play the game of one upmanship, using manipulated and edited renditions of unreliable history, rather than stages for assisting Sikhs to make spiritual progress, and uniting Sikhs with each other and to unite them to their fellow non-sikhs. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]They are buildings in which divide and rule policies are discussed and professed, whilst Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is all about removing the very duality that they seek to reinforce through their anger, hatred, jealousy and envy of each other, and interest in coming out on top. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]It is exactly because of all these various issues discussed in the article that makes it pointless to even contemplate any examples outside Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, and why they should be ignored by Sikhs interested in higher levels of spiritual consciousness and liberation from the cycle of reincarnation. [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Sources external to Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji are completely unreliable. Many of them will be manipulated stories based on rumour, hearsay and figments of peoples imaginations, as well as deliberate insertions into Sikh history. It is best for Sikhs with spiritual interests to rely only upon the eternal Guru, Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. There are original birs which support authenticity of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]A Sikhs needs to detach themselves from political games if he/she is to see the light emanating from Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. The games will never end, but the opportunity afforded by human life will. [/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]If you think that is an esoteric viewpoint that is up to you.Whether it is of the East or West shouldn't matter.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Sat Sri Akal[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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