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ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
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Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
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Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
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Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
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Gurbani (557-564)
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Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
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Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
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Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
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Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Sherdil" data-source="post: 207147" data-attributes="member: 20261"><p>ਓਂ is the symbol. When it is spelled phonetically, it is ਓਅੰਕਾਰ. The ਅੰ is inserted to hold the tippi, because it cannot be placed on ਓਂ.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The ਕਾਰ at the end of these words doesn't come from Akar (form).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nir is a negation of Akar so you can combine the two, just like Nir + Gun = Nirgun</p><p></p><p>Ek Akar = 1 form</p><p></p><p>Ek + Akar = Ekankar (form of 1)</p><p></p><p>The tippi is needed to link the two words</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We are writing something phonetically using romanized script.</p><p></p><p>If I wrote ooooo instead of awwww, then please forgive me lol. You catch my drift.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sikh Philosophy.</p><p></p><p>Guru Nanak's Ek Onkar symbol is a more complete representation of the Divine than the Om symbol because it introduces the Ek before the Onkar. The Ek is the Karta Purakh. It is the all-seeing, all-knowing, all-doing cosmic Purusha. Even in Hindu Philosophy, Brahman is higher than Om.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ji, I am not saying that Onkar is exclusively form. I am saying that since form arises from Onkar, it is a part of that vibration. This is why Onkar is sargun (with attributes). It is the part of the Divine that is manifested. I understand what you mean by background noise, but the keyboard I am typing on is still a part of that noise.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>ਓਅੰ ਸਾਧ ਸਤਿ ਗੁਰ ਨਮਸਕਾਰੰ ॥</p><p>I bow to Onkar the perfect, true, teacher.</p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Shabadh Guru = Onkar</span></p><p></p><p>ਆਦਿ ਮਧਿ ਅੰਤਿ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੰ ॥</p><p>Onkar is that (ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੰ) formlessness that is there in the beginning, middle and end.</p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Onkar creates, sustains, destroys</span></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=250&L=8&id=10914" target="_blank">Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 250</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Normally sound is created by striking two objects together.</p><p></p><p>Anahat Naad is unstruck because it is self-emanating. It comes from Ek and it is still a part of Ek. There are no two things that are struck together to make this sound. There is only the One.</p><p></p><p>It has nothing to do with our ability to physically strike it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is your translation, but I feel it is embellished. There is no indication in the gurmukhi provided that this is a discussion of Onkar / vibration. Only Ekankar is mention. Ekankar is the nirgun Akaal. It is beyond death, birth, social class or involvement. It is has no form or outline. It is unfathomable, yet it is present in all living things as the <strong>aatma (soul)</strong> which is part of the supreme-soul (param-aatma).</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=838&L=19&id=35721" target="_blank">Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 838</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sherdil, post: 207147, member: 20261"] ਓਂ is the symbol. When it is spelled phonetically, it is ਓਅੰਕਾਰ. The ਅੰ is inserted to hold the tippi, because it cannot be placed on ਓਂ. The ਕਾਰ at the end of these words doesn't come from Akar (form). Nir is a negation of Akar so you can combine the two, just like Nir + Gun = Nirgun Ek Akar = 1 form Ek + Akar = Ekankar (form of 1) The tippi is needed to link the two words We are writing something phonetically using romanized script. If I wrote ooooo instead of awwww, then please forgive me lol. You catch my drift. Sikh Philosophy. Guru Nanak's Ek Onkar symbol is a more complete representation of the Divine than the Om symbol because it introduces the Ek before the Onkar. The Ek is the Karta Purakh. It is the all-seeing, all-knowing, all-doing cosmic Purusha. Even in Hindu Philosophy, Brahman is higher than Om. Ji, I am not saying that Onkar is exclusively form. I am saying that since form arises from Onkar, it is a part of that vibration. This is why Onkar is sargun (with attributes). It is the part of the Divine that is manifested. I understand what you mean by background noise, but the keyboard I am typing on is still a part of that noise. ਓਅੰ ਸਾਧ ਸਤਿ ਗੁਰ ਨਮਸਕਾਰੰ ॥ I bow to Onkar the perfect, true, teacher. [COLOR=#0080ff]Shabadh Guru = Onkar[/COLOR] ਆਦਿ ਮਧਿ ਅੰਤਿ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੰ ॥ Onkar is that (ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੰ) formlessness that is there in the beginning, middle and end. [COLOR=#0080ff]Onkar creates, sustains, destroys[/COLOR] [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=250&L=8&id=10914']Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 250[/URL] Normally sound is created by striking two objects together. Anahat Naad is unstruck because it is self-emanating. It comes from Ek and it is still a part of Ek. There are no two things that are struck together to make this sound. There is only the One. It has nothing to do with our ability to physically strike it. This is your translation, but I feel it is embellished. There is no indication in the gurmukhi provided that this is a discussion of Onkar / vibration. Only Ekankar is mention. Ekankar is the nirgun Akaal. It is beyond death, birth, social class or involvement. It is has no form or outline. It is unfathomable, yet it is present in all living things as the [B]aatma (soul)[/B] which is part of the supreme-soul (param-aatma). [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=838&L=19&id=35721']Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 838[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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