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<blockquote data-quote="Jass Singh" data-source="post: 21819" data-attributes="member: 1904"><p><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Inderjit</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">So the truth is finally coming out and you finally admit:</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: green">All you said before was </span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">And now you add: </span></span></strong></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: green">The book is your primary source of inspiration</span></strong><strong><span style="color: green">for the nonsense you have</span></strong><strong><span style="color: green">been spewing out & yet you do not have it. I don’t for a minute believe you ever had it or read it. The only information you have about Ahluwalia’s writings has come from online searches. Someone once said that this is collecting knowledge like a dog collects fleas – a few here & a few there. </span></strong></span></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">But then you have the audacity to say:</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">If you couldn’t care less, what have you been going on about claiming that based on Ahluwalia’s writings</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: black"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: black"><strong></strong></span></span><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">My dear friend, you are the one who is misrepresenting & in danger of defamation. If you can misrepresent yourself & Ahluwalia what credibility do you have? How can anything you say be taken seriously? </span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Then you want to chicken out by saying:</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong></strong></span></span><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Who else should have to justify what you say? You have made outlandish assertions & claims & now want to chicken out of justifying those positions. </span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">You will end as the laughing stock of this forum if you go on saying things like:</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Go and take a class in logic, ethics & philosophy (especially epistemology for you do not seem to know what constitutes true knowledge nor the difference between truth & ethics) & then come back & talk to me. This also proves that you have never even seen a copy of Ahluwalia’s books let alone read them now or in the past. </span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">It is pointless you digressing into rabbit trails such as dualism, the nature of God or about Hukamnamas until you know the nature of true knowledge (epistemology) which will involve the ontological status of the laws of logic. You have no idea what this means nor about what you are saying – you never did from the very start. </span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: green">You claim:</span></strong><span style="color: green"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green"></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Oh really? Then why are you so unreasonable and can’t admit what is as plain as the nose on your face? </span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">You have no idea what a mess you are getting yourself into for you then claim:</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">And who creates the terminology that you use such as “dualism” etc? FYI if you had ever read Ahluwalia’s books you would know that I have not used a single word that he does not use! This is the terminology of philosophers - you obviously are not a philosopher. This proves that you could not even begin to understand what Ahluwalia writes in his books. And once again it proves that you are fabricating lies when you say about Ahluwalia’s books: </span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">You say this to save face but then you have to cover this lie by saying </span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">I see that you also chickened out of justifying your basic presupposition that:</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong></strong></span></span><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">by not answering my questions namely:</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: green">1. </span></strong><strong><span style="color: green">What is logic? </span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: green">2. </span></strong><strong><span style="color: green">What are the laws of logic?</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: green">3. </span></strong><strong><span style="color: green">Which laws of logic were annihilated?</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: green">4. </span></strong><strong><span style="color: green">How do you define annihilation?</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: green">5. </span></strong><strong><span style="color: green">When were they annihilated?</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: green">6. </span></strong><strong><span style="color: green">Who annihilated them?</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: green">7. </span></strong><strong><span style="color: green">Why were they annihilated?</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: green">8. </span></strong><strong><span style="color: green">What is proof?</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: green">9. </span></strong><strong><span style="color: green">How do you prove something without logic?</span></strong></span></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">You do not have a leg to stand on -- all your assertions have been refuted and utterly demolished. You are a lost cause as far as I am concerned and a dishonest one at that and a VERY BAD LOSER. I do not think I need to continue in this dead end discussion with a dishonest & philosophically ignorant individual. If you like I will continue dialoguing with you on the understanding that you agree that logic and reason are the only means of meaningful discussion & argumentation. </span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Jass Singh</span></span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jass Singh, post: 21819, member: 1904"] [B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]Inderjit[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]So the truth is finally coming out and you finally admit:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=green]All you said before was [/COLOR][/B][/FONT] [COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]And now you add: [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=green]The book is your primary source of inspiration[/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green]for the nonsense you have[/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green]been spewing out & yet you do not have it. I don’t for a minute believe you ever had it or read it. The only information you have about Ahluwalia’s writings has come from online searches. Someone once said that this is collecting knowledge like a dog collects fleas – a few here & a few there. [/COLOR][/B][/FONT] [B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]But then you have the audacity to say:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]If you couldn’t care less, what have you been going on about claiming that based on Ahluwalia’s writings[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black][B] [/B][/COLOR][/FONT][B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]My dear friend, you are the one who is misrepresenting & in danger of defamation. If you can misrepresent yourself & Ahluwalia what credibility do you have? How can anything you say be taken seriously? [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]Then you want to chicken out by saying:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman][B] [/B][/FONT][/COLOR][B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]Who else should have to justify what you say? You have made outlandish assertions & claims & now want to chicken out of justifying those positions. [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]You will end as the laughing stock of this forum if you go on saying things like:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]Go and take a class in logic, ethics & philosophy (especially epistemology for you do not seem to know what constitutes true knowledge nor the difference between truth & ethics) & then come back & talk to me. This also proves that you have never even seen a copy of Ahluwalia’s books let alone read them now or in the past. [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]It is pointless you digressing into rabbit trails such as dualism, the nature of God or about Hukamnamas until you know the nature of true knowledge (epistemology) which will involve the ontological status of the laws of logic. You have no idea what this means nor about what you are saying – you never did from the very start. [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=green]You claim:[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=green] [/COLOR][COLOR=black][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]Oh really? Then why are you so unreasonable and can’t admit what is as plain as the nose on your face? [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]You have no idea what a mess you are getting yourself into for you then claim:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]And who creates the terminology that you use such as “dualism” etc? FYI if you had ever read Ahluwalia’s books you would know that I have not used a single word that he does not use! This is the terminology of philosophers - you obviously are not a philosopher. This proves that you could not even begin to understand what Ahluwalia writes in his books. And once again it proves that you are fabricating lies when you say about Ahluwalia’s books: [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]You say this to save face but then you have to cover this lie by saying [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]I see that you also chickened out of justifying your basic presupposition that:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman][B] [/B][/FONT][/COLOR][B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]by not answering my questions namely:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=green]1. [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green]What is logic? [/COLOR][/B][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=green]2. [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green]What are the laws of logic?[/COLOR][/B][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=green]3. [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green]Which laws of logic were annihilated?[/COLOR][/B][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=green]4. [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green]How do you define annihilation?[/COLOR][/B][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=green]5. [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green]When were they annihilated?[/COLOR][/B][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=green]6. [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green]Who annihilated them?[/COLOR][/B][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=green]7. [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green]Why were they annihilated?[/COLOR][/B][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=green]8. [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green]What is proof?[/COLOR][/B][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=green]9. [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green]How do you prove something without logic?[/COLOR][/B][/FONT] [B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]You do not have a leg to stand on -- all your assertions have been refuted and utterly demolished. You are a lost cause as far as I am concerned and a dishonest one at that and a VERY BAD LOSER. I do not think I need to continue in this dead end discussion with a dishonest & philosophically ignorant individual. If you like I will continue dialoguing with you on the understanding that you agree that logic and reason are the only means of meaningful discussion & argumentation. [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times New Roman]Jass Singh[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [/QUOTE]
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