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<blockquote data-quote="Amarpal" data-source="post: 10313" data-attributes="member: 10"><p><strong>Re: Lust is a virtue or a vice?</strong></p><p></p><p>Dear Khalsa Ji,</p><p> </p><p>The critrion for evaluation and decision making should exist before one can categorise the attribute as vice or virtue. The criterion that I apply in my life is given below.</p><p> </p><p>Any human attribute that weakens me mentally, physically, morally or spiritually is a vice.</p><p> </p><p>Any human attribute that strengthens me mentally, physically, morally and spiritually is a virtue.</p><p> </p><p>It is for the individual to decide what is vice and what is virtue for her or him. </p><p> </p><p>Some time the attribute becomes virtue or vice depending on the context. </p><p>To give you an example, sex is condemned in most religious paths, however in some branches of Tantra it is part of religious ritual. True, sexual ritual in Tantra is not meant for pleasure but for some other reason ( I am not elaborating on it here). Even in Tantras, sex for pleasure, outside the institution of marriage, is called lust. Here one can see that even in Tantra the sexual act is context specific. The attribute becomes vice or virtue based on the intent behind the the act or the attribute. many attributes cannot be classified as vice or virtue in any absolute sense.</p><p> </p><p>Things become further complicated in real life, because each individual has (sometimes without his or her knowing it) a hierachy of values. The individual gives up what is lower in the hierarchy for a value up in his ladder. This gives a wrong impression the outsider that the value the individual has sacrificed is not a value for her or him. The heirachy of values is not common to all of us. After all it is a relative world. In this relative world in which we live, many attributes cannot be classified in an absolute sense. </p><p> </p><p>Even with the criteria it is difficult to pass a judgement on values without knowing the context and the hierarchy of values of the individual</p><p> </p><p>With love and respect for all.</p><p> </p><p>Amarpal Singh</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Amarpal, post: 10313, member: 10"] [b]Re: Lust is a virtue or a vice?[/b] Dear Khalsa Ji, The critrion for evaluation and decision making should exist before one can categorise the attribute as vice or virtue. The criterion that I apply in my life is given below. Any human attribute that weakens me mentally, physically, morally or spiritually is a vice. Any human attribute that strengthens me mentally, physically, morally and spiritually is a virtue. It is for the individual to decide what is vice and what is virtue for her or him. Some time the attribute becomes virtue or vice depending on the context. To give you an example, sex is condemned in most religious paths, however in some branches of Tantra it is part of religious ritual. True, sexual ritual in Tantra is not meant for pleasure but for some other reason ( I am not elaborating on it here). Even in Tantras, sex for pleasure, outside the institution of marriage, is called lust. Here one can see that even in Tantra the sexual act is context specific. The attribute becomes vice or virtue based on the intent behind the the act or the attribute. many attributes cannot be classified as vice or virtue in any absolute sense. Things become further complicated in real life, because each individual has (sometimes without his or her knowing it) a hierachy of values. The individual gives up what is lower in the hierarchy for a value up in his ladder. This gives a wrong impression the outsider that the value the individual has sacrificed is not a value for her or him. The heirachy of values is not common to all of us. After all it is a relative world. In this relative world in which we live, many attributes cannot be classified in an absolute sense. Even with the criteria it is difficult to pass a judgement on values without knowing the context and the hierarchy of values of the individual With love and respect for all. Amarpal Singh [/QUOTE]
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