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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="JimRinX" data-source="post: 123706" data-attributes="member: 6872"><p>Dear Rajneesh Madho ji</p><p>Wow! Such heat in your tone of writing; I detect more anger determining your views, when I see them more as a misunderstanding, as you have judged me poorly.</p><p>Firstly: I was NOT disagreeing with your POV - I merely said thet there are two sides to everything; and, since I am FAR from oversexed (Hundreds? You DISHONOR me!), and I feel that I have done my best to avoid getting into a Bad Marriage - as MY own culture actually is, I'd heartilly agree, rather messed up on that subject.</p><p>Let me get to the Point; I DO have what you call Gyan (Enlightenment, etc.), and My 'Book of Life' - including the Sexual Parts - has been 'read' in Gods presence (if you read my other bits - like Introducing Myself, you'll learn what I actually am; some have said Avdhoot, others 'Rinpoche').</p><p>This is the origin of my Feelings and Views on the subject; as there is one thing NOW that was NOT THERE when these time honored traditions (which many modern Hindus despise, I also know) - which are/were intended to provide a Good, Stable Home and Loving, Capable Familly to provide for any Children that might come about as a result of the marriage - were adopted; and not just by Indian/Asian/Eastern Socieites; and that's Birth Control.</p><p>Thus, The Great Ones opinions seemed to be that (as I tried to say, before you bit my head off!) finding ones 'Perfect Soul Mate' is much, much more important than preventing unwanted pregnacies - by marrying off LITTLE CHILDREN, in the interest of those future adults own Offspring!</p><p>Did it ever occur to you that Gods own POV would change, as WE change the World God Created for us?</p><p>You think that I merely "Crave Flesh" (which is true, in MODERATION) - or that I'm "Lost in Maya", but I'm actually just relaying what I was shown/told/had imparted to me, in my Holy Visions; which, BTW, resulted in a White Streak - one taht was NOT there before - appearing my my HAIR!</p><p>And, NO, I ws not (obviously) DREAMING; and I've read Freud, Jung, etc. - so learning about 'Dream Interpretation' is also not necessary for anyone to mention.</p><p>As I've also repeated, by many American Mens standards I - personally - am not a 'Real Man'; which they like to tease me about, because I HAVEN'T abused enough Women - or had enough Multi-Sexual relations - as much as THOSE FOOLS think I should have, to meet with their approval of my 'Macho-ness'.</p><p>There are, again, to extremes here; and the Middle Path is open to you, once you get over your misguilded preconceptions regarding what I was ACTUALLY trying to say!</p><p>Do you REALLY think Child Marriage is the Right Thing to do? How about Out-of-Caste Marriage? All those unhappy young ladies....it BREAKS MY HEART to SEE IT; and if it affects me that way - the above considered - then, I assure you, it is viewed by Our Very Beautiful and LOVING-KIND Lord, as well.</p><p>God is LOVE - and what I see that you've shown me here is called HATERED, or Prejudice!</p><p>I've read an abridged version of the Kama Sutra - and seen Photos of the Temple Art; and what European/American Society was like before they became 'known' in those spheres of influence, was remarkably like what existed in Asians Socieites - with the exception of the Tantric Cultures who TREID to set us all Free.</p><p>The way we did things before the so-called 'sexual revolution' leads to Emotional PAIN (always a Bad Thing!), to little boys being futtered in back rooms, the '30 Minute Marriages' (to a Widow) that Muslim Men one can BUY from the Clerics in Qum (Iran)to Child prostitution, etc.; the way we do things NOW - without the Wisdom of Moderation - leads to Tiger Woods, our American Presidential Candidate John Edwards cheating one his spouse...etc..</p><p>It's all in Moderation - and, so, BOTH of us are BOTH Right and Wrong, Man who uses a Ying/Yang as his Avatar! </p><p>Of ALL people, I'd think that YOU should KNOW that!</p><p>Ever hear of a 'Walking Marriage'? It's a Custom in some South Asians (Tibetan) people practice; and it sounds emminently sensible to me - as NO ONE gets HURT because of Bonds that should never have been established, simply for the sake of 'honoring custom', in the first place!</p><p>I'll get back to all of you jios on this subject when I have more time.</p><p>It's what we call a 'Hot Potato'!</p><p>Trust Me - I wouldn't DARE to lie about such things! Not unless someone shows me a working matter transmutation device - in 1990!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JimRinX, post: 123706, member: 6872"] Dear Rajneesh Madho ji Wow! Such heat in your tone of writing; I detect more anger determining your views, when I see them more as a misunderstanding, as you have judged me poorly. Firstly: I was NOT disagreeing with your POV - I merely said thet there are two sides to everything; and, since I am FAR from oversexed (Hundreds? You DISHONOR me!), and I feel that I have done my best to avoid getting into a Bad Marriage - as MY own culture actually is, I'd heartilly agree, rather messed up on that subject. Let me get to the Point; I DO have what you call Gyan (Enlightenment, etc.), and My 'Book of Life' - including the Sexual Parts - has been 'read' in Gods presence (if you read my other bits - like Introducing Myself, you'll learn what I actually am; some have said Avdhoot, others 'Rinpoche'). This is the origin of my Feelings and Views on the subject; as there is one thing NOW that was NOT THERE when these time honored traditions (which many modern Hindus despise, I also know) - which are/were intended to provide a Good, Stable Home and Loving, Capable Familly to provide for any Children that might come about as a result of the marriage - were adopted; and not just by Indian/Asian/Eastern Socieites; and that's Birth Control. Thus, The Great Ones opinions seemed to be that (as I tried to say, before you bit my head off!) finding ones 'Perfect Soul Mate' is much, much more important than preventing unwanted pregnacies - by marrying off LITTLE CHILDREN, in the interest of those future adults own Offspring! Did it ever occur to you that Gods own POV would change, as WE change the World God Created for us? You think that I merely "Crave Flesh" (which is true, in MODERATION) - or that I'm "Lost in Maya", but I'm actually just relaying what I was shown/told/had imparted to me, in my Holy Visions; which, BTW, resulted in a White Streak - one taht was NOT there before - appearing my my HAIR! And, NO, I ws not (obviously) DREAMING; and I've read Freud, Jung, etc. - so learning about 'Dream Interpretation' is also not necessary for anyone to mention. As I've also repeated, by many American Mens standards I - personally - am not a 'Real Man'; which they like to tease me about, because I HAVEN'T abused enough Women - or had enough Multi-Sexual relations - as much as THOSE FOOLS think I should have, to meet with their approval of my 'Macho-ness'. There are, again, to extremes here; and the Middle Path is open to you, once you get over your misguilded preconceptions regarding what I was ACTUALLY trying to say! Do you REALLY think Child Marriage is the Right Thing to do? How about Out-of-Caste Marriage? All those unhappy young ladies....it BREAKS MY HEART to SEE IT; and if it affects me that way - the above considered - then, I assure you, it is viewed by Our Very Beautiful and LOVING-KIND Lord, as well. God is LOVE - and what I see that you've shown me here is called HATERED, or Prejudice! I've read an abridged version of the Kama Sutra - and seen Photos of the Temple Art; and what European/American Society was like before they became 'known' in those spheres of influence, was remarkably like what existed in Asians Socieites - with the exception of the Tantric Cultures who TREID to set us all Free. The way we did things before the so-called 'sexual revolution' leads to Emotional PAIN (always a Bad Thing!), to little boys being futtered in back rooms, the '30 Minute Marriages' (to a Widow) that Muslim Men one can BUY from the Clerics in Qum (Iran)to Child prostitution, etc.; the way we do things NOW - without the Wisdom of Moderation - leads to Tiger Woods, our American Presidential Candidate John Edwards cheating one his spouse...etc.. It's all in Moderation - and, so, BOTH of us are BOTH Right and Wrong, Man who uses a Ying/Yang as his Avatar! Of ALL people, I'd think that YOU should KNOW that! Ever hear of a 'Walking Marriage'? It's a Custom in some South Asians (Tibetan) people practice; and it sounds emminently sensible to me - as NO ONE gets HURT because of Bonds that should never have been established, simply for the sake of 'honoring custom', in the first place! I'll get back to all of you jios on this subject when I have more time. It's what we call a 'Hot Potato'! Trust Me - I wouldn't DARE to lie about such things! Not unless someone shows me a working matter transmutation device - in 1990! [/QUOTE]
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