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<blockquote data-quote="Archived_Member1" data-source="post: 67682" data-attributes="member: 4703"><p>my interpretation is that <span style="color: DarkRed">intoxication <span style="color: Black">is the sin. now, if you can have a drink and not have it effect your ability to think clearly, then it's probably ok. for people like me who get buzzed from one drink, we should not drink at all.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black">also, for amritdhari sikhs, consuming intoxicants (tobacco, alcohol, etc) is a bujjar kurehet, on par with cutting one's hair or committing adultry. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black">consider the following:</span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="color: Black"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #800000"> ਮਾਣਸੁ ਭਰਿਆ ਆਣਿਆ ਮਾਣਸੁ ਭਰਿਆ ਆਇ ॥</span></span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px">Māṇas bẖari*ā āṇi*ā māṇas bẖari*ā ā*ė.</span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">One person brings a full bottle, and another fills his cup.</span></span></span> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #800000">ਜਿਤੁ ਪੀਤੈ ਮਤਿ ਦੂਰਿ ਹੋਇ ਬਰਲੁ ਪਵੈ ਵਿਚਿ ਆਇ ॥</span></span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px">Jiṯ pīṯai maṯ ḏūr ho*ė baral pavai vicẖ ā*ė.</span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">Drinking the wine, his intelligence departs, and madness enters his mind;</span></span></span> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #800000">ਆਪਣਾ ਪਰਾਇਆ ਨ ਪਛਾਣਈ ਖਸਮਹੁ ਧਕੇ ਖਾਇ ॥</span></span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px">Āpṇā parā*i*ā na pacẖẖāṇ*ī kẖasmahu ḏẖakė kẖā*ė.</span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">he cannot distinguish between his own and others, and he is struck down by his Lord and Master.</span></span></span> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #800000">ਜਿਤੁ ਪੀਤੈ ਖਸਮੁ ਵਿਸਰੈ ਦਰਗਹ ਮਿਲੈ ਸਜਾਇ ॥</span></span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px">Jiṯ pīṯai kẖasam visrai ḏargeh milai sajā*ė.</span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">Drinking it, he forgets his Lord and Master, and he is punished in the Court of the Lord.</span></span></span> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #800000">ਝੂਠਾ ਮਦੁ ਮੂਲਿ ਨ ਪੀਚਈ ਜੇ ਕਾ ਪਾਰਿ ਵਸਾਇ ॥</span></span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px">Jẖūṯẖā maḏ mūl na pīcẖ*ī jė kā pār vasā*ė.</span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">Do not drink the false wine at all, if it is in your power.</span></span></span> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #800000">ਨਾਨਕ ਨਦਰੀ ਸਚੁ ਮਦੁ ਪਾਈਐ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਜਿਸੁ ਆਇ ॥</span></span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px">Nānak naḏrī sacẖ maḏ pā*ī*ai saṯgur milai jis ā*ė.</span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">O Nanak, the True Guru comes and meets the mortal; by His Grace, one obtains the True Wine.</span></span></span> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #800000">ਸਦਾ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਕੈ ਰੰਗਿ ਰਹੈ ਮਹਲੀ ਪਾਵੈ ਥਾਉ ॥੧॥</span></span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px">Saḏā sāhib kai rang rahai mahlī pāvai thā*o. ||1||</span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">He shall dwell forever in the Love of the Lord Master, and obtain a seat in the Mansion of His Presence. ||1||</span></span></span> </p><p></p><p>this would seem to indicate that intoxication with alcohol (false wine) is unacceptable. we should instead become intoxicated by the true wine (Naam).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archived_Member1, post: 67682, member: 4703"] my interpretation is that [COLOR=DarkRed]intoxication [COLOR=Black]is the sin. now, if you can have a drink and not have it effect your ability to think clearly, then it's probably ok. for people like me who get buzzed from one drink, we should not drink at all. also, for amritdhari sikhs, consuming intoxicants (tobacco, alcohol, etc) is a bujjar kurehet, on par with cutting one's hair or committing adultry. consider the following: [/COLOR][/COLOR][FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=#800000] ਮਾਣਸੁ ਭਰਿਆ ਆਣਿਆ ਮਾਣਸੁ ਭਰਿਆ ਆਇ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1]Māṇas bẖari*ā āṇi*ā māṇas bẖari*ā ā*ė.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]One person brings a full bottle, and another fills his cup.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=#800000]ਜਿਤੁ ਪੀਤੈ ਮਤਿ ਦੂਰਿ ਹੋਇ ਬਰਲੁ ਪਵੈ ਵਿਚਿ ਆਇ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1]Jiṯ pīṯai maṯ ḏūr ho*ė baral pavai vicẖ ā*ė.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]Drinking the wine, his intelligence departs, and madness enters his mind;[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=#800000]ਆਪਣਾ ਪਰਾਇਆ ਨ ਪਛਾਣਈ ਖਸਮਹੁ ਧਕੇ ਖਾਇ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1]Āpṇā parā*i*ā na pacẖẖāṇ*ī kẖasmahu ḏẖakė kẖā*ė.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]he cannot distinguish between his own and others, and he is struck down by his Lord and Master.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=#800000]ਜਿਤੁ ਪੀਤੈ ਖਸਮੁ ਵਿਸਰੈ ਦਰਗਹ ਮਿਲੈ ਸਜਾਇ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1]Jiṯ pīṯai kẖasam visrai ḏargeh milai sajā*ė.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]Drinking it, he forgets his Lord and Master, and he is punished in the Court of the Lord.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=#800000]ਝੂਠਾ ਮਦੁ ਮੂਲਿ ਨ ਪੀਚਈ ਜੇ ਕਾ ਪਾਰਿ ਵਸਾਇ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1]Jẖūṯẖā maḏ mūl na pīcẖ*ī jė kā pār vasā*ė.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]Do not drink the false wine at all, if it is in your power.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=#800000]ਨਾਨਕ ਨਦਰੀ ਸਚੁ ਮਦੁ ਪਾਈਐ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਜਿਸੁ ਆਇ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1]Nānak naḏrī sacẖ maḏ pā*ī*ai saṯgur milai jis ā*ė.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]O Nanak, the True Guru comes and meets the mortal; by His Grace, one obtains the True Wine.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=#800000]ਸਦਾ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਕੈ ਰੰਗਿ ਰਹੈ ਮਹਲੀ ਪਾਵੈ ਥਾਉ ॥੧॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1]Saḏā sāhib kai rang rahai mahlī pāvai thā*o. ||1||[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]He shall dwell forever in the Love of the Lord Master, and obtain a seat in the Mansion of His Presence. ||1||[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] this would seem to indicate that intoxication with alcohol (false wine) is unacceptable. we should instead become intoxicated by the true wine (Naam). [/QUOTE]
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