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<blockquote data-quote="Nirmaljot Baidwan" data-source="post: 141465" data-attributes="member: 14498"><p>@tejwant Singh[/FONT]</p><p> U r welcome to ask questions. And yes sir I will be kind enough to explain the meaning of [/FONT]</p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਉ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਧਿਆਈਐ ਛੋਡਹੁ ਦੁਨਿ ਪਰੀਤਾ</span>ll </strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪ੍ਰਣਵਤਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਦਾਸਨਿ ਦਾਸਾ ਜਗਿ ਹਾਰਿਆ ਤਿਨਿ ਜੀਤਾ</span></strong>ll</p><p> But before that I have some questions for you.</p><p> 1. 1.What do you mean by “Body Clock”. Whose concept is this??? Is this from SGGS??</p><p> 2. 2.Your post tells me that you are 56 yrs of age. I’d like to know how have you been remembering the god??? By some actions or by just “PARROTING” the gurbaani??</p><p> 3. </p><p></p><p>I Quote you “<strong>Do you mean our Gurus, starting with Guru Nanak worked against the nature and did not care about our body clock with whose help our bodies work?</strong></p><p><strong>Do you think they would advice us to discard nature in this manner?</strong></p><p><strong>What would be the reason behind it if your contention is correct? Can you please shed some light on it</strong>.”</p><p> Now I ask you “ you talked about nature??? Are we working according to the nature?? By reading this comment of yours I can sense that you think “Waking up early at so called amrit wela is against the nature”. I also sense that you mean that guru sahib was against getting up early or at amrit wela??? My friend you are thinking directly opposite to guru sahib.</p><p> </p><p> I quote from SGGS</p><p> <span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਰਭਾਤੇ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਿ ਗੁਰ ਕੇ ਚਰਣ ਧਿਆਇ </span></span></p><p> <span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਨਮ ਮਰਣ ਮਲੁ ਉਤਰੈ ਸਚੇ ਕੇ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਇ </span></span>(sri guru arjan dev ji pg 1099)</p><p> Baba farid says in SGGS ,pg 1383</p><p> <span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਫਰੀਦਾ ਪਿਛਲ ਰਾਤਿ ਨ ਜਾਗਿਓਹਿ ਜੀਵਦਡੋ ਮੁਇਓਹਿ </span></span></p><p> </p><p> Farid says if you are still sleeping at the time when the night is about to finish “<span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਿਛਲ</span> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਾਤਿ</span>” means the almost end of night, you are nothing more than a dead man. Why guru sahib included this verse in SGGS??? Just because guru saheb’s teachings are also the same.</p><p> SO I DON’T AGREE WITH YOU AT ALL THAT GURU SAHEB WERE AGAINST GETTING UP AT 2 a.m or amrit vela.</p><p> So this is not against the nature , this is what guru sahib told us. Now I’ll tell you why amrit vela is so important.</p><p> I’ll quote from SGGS ,pg 734</p><p> <span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਰਿ ਧਨੁ ਅਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਵੇਲੈ ਵਤੈ ਕਾ ਬੀਜਿਆ ਭਗਤ ਖਾਇ ਖਰਚਿ ਰਹੇ ਨਿਖੁਟੈ ਨਾਹੀ </span></span></p><p> </p><p> My friend only a farmer or a jatt sikh would know that if you sow seed in the ground when its on “VATT” I don’t know the English literary meaning of “vatt” but if u sow when the soil is on vat then the growth of the plant will be maximum and it will grow. In the same manner amrit wela is the time when the soul is on “VATT” and the seed of naam can make good hold in your soul. This example is given by Guru sahib. I hope now u understand that guru sahib were not against it but they came to teach us fools. </p><p> </p><p> So here not only I have explained u the meaning of the tuk or verse u asked about but I have also given you more examples from gurbaani, I have also made it clear to you that don’t keep it in your mind that guru sahib were against the nature but it is we the people who are against his nature.</p><p> </p><p> The next thing now. I quote</p><p> “Aren't thinking of the family and business even in the Gurdwara which may help us give new ideas to make our family and business better parts of Miri-Piri concept of Sikhi way of life?”</p><p> </p><p> I want to ask you my friend </p><p> Did you come to this world to make a good business??? Its ok that we cant live the life of sanyasis as its also forbidden in SGGS. But if you have read the gurbaani you would not have asked me this question because its clearly mentioned in SGGS that the aim of the man who is sent on this world is not “TO MAKE THEIR BUSINESS”</p><p> </p><p> What is the aim then???</p><p> Guru arjan dev ji has said “<strong>bhai prapat manukh dehuriya,Gobind Milan ki eh teri bariya”</strong></p><p> Now after reading this the question which should come to your mind is “How to meet with GOBIND or GOD then??” But I guess it wont. SO I’ll tell you sir, guru amardas ji says on pg 109-110</p><p> </p><p> <span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਮੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਮਿਲਾਏ </span></span><span style="color: red">ll</span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੇਵਾ ਸੁਰਤ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਏ</span></span><span style="color: red">ll</span></p><p> It clearly means that it is not in your control to find a true guru (<span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ</span>) but if its in your fate then u’ll come across the true guru and then what will happen???</p><p> <span style="color: red">ll</span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੇਵਾ ਸੁਰਤ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਏ</span></span><span style="color: red">ll</span></p><p> He’ll tell u to serve the almighty , how?? By merging your surt(soul) in the naam or shabd .</p><p> Naam or shabd is no where else but in your body , within yourself. Now anyone can object me here and say, what am I talking??? Am I out of my mind?? But I’m not sayin this . SGGS says this</p><p> </p><p> GURU NANAK SAYS IN SGGS on pg 1026 </p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੇਹੀ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਵਾਸੀ</span>ll<span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"> ਆਪੇ ਕਰਤਾ ਹੈ ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ </span>ll</p><p> </p><p> Can naam be easily obtained???</p><p> NO says guru sahib. Guru ramdaas ji says on pg 1242</p><p> <span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨ ਅਲਖੁ ਹੈ ਕਿਉ ਲਖਿਆ ਜਾਈ</span></span><span style="color: red">ll</span> </p><p> But in the same shabad he says </p><p> <span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰ ਪੂਰੇ ਤੇ ਪਾਈਐ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਦੇਈ ਦਿਖਾਈ </span></span><span style="color: red">ll</span></p><p> This clearly means theat when u get the true guru or poora guru, he’ll show it to you within yourself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nirmaljot Baidwan, post: 141465, member: 14498"] @tejwant Singh[/FONT] U r welcome to ask questions. And yes sir I will be kind enough to explain the meaning of [/FONT] [B][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਉ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਧਿਆਈਐ ਛੋਡਹੁ ਦੁਨਿ ਪਰੀਤਾ[/FONT]ll [/B][B][FONT=Raavi]ਪ੍ਰਣਵਤਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਦਾਸਨਿ ਦਾਸਾ ਜਗਿ ਹਾਰਿਆ ਤਿਨਿ ਜੀਤਾ[/FONT][/B]ll But before that I have some questions for you. 1. 1.What do you mean by “Body Clock”. Whose concept is this??? Is this from SGGS?? 2. 2.Your post tells me that you are 56 yrs of age. I’d like to know how have you been remembering the god??? By some actions or by just “PARROTING” the gurbaani?? 3. I Quote you “[B]Do you mean our Gurus, starting with Guru Nanak worked against the nature and did not care about our body clock with whose help our bodies work? Do you think they would advice us to discard nature in this manner? What would be the reason behind it if your contention is correct? Can you please shed some light on it[/B].” Now I ask you “ you talked about nature??? Are we working according to the nature?? By reading this comment of yours I can sense that you think “Waking up early at so called amrit wela is against the nature”. I also sense that you mean that guru sahib was against getting up early or at amrit wela??? My friend you are thinking directly opposite to guru sahib. I quote from SGGS [COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਪਰਭਾਤੇ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਿ ਗੁਰ ਕੇ ਚਰਣ ਧਿਆਇ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਜਨਮ ਮਰਣ ਮਲੁ ਉਤਰੈ ਸਚੇ ਕੇ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਇ [/FONT][/COLOR](sri guru arjan dev ji pg 1099) Baba farid says in SGGS ,pg 1383 [COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਫਰੀਦਾ ਪਿਛਲ ਰਾਤਿ ਨ ਜਾਗਿਓਹਿ ਜੀਵਦਡੋ ਮੁਇਓਹਿ [/FONT][/COLOR] Farid says if you are still sleeping at the time when the night is about to finish “[FONT=Raavi]ਪਿਛਲ[/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਰਾਤਿ[/FONT]” means the almost end of night, you are nothing more than a dead man. Why guru sahib included this verse in SGGS??? Just because guru saheb’s teachings are also the same. SO I DON’T AGREE WITH YOU AT ALL THAT GURU SAHEB WERE AGAINST GETTING UP AT 2 a.m or amrit vela. So this is not against the nature , this is what guru sahib told us. Now I’ll tell you why amrit vela is so important. I’ll quote from SGGS ,pg[FONT=Raavi] [/FONT]734 [COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਹਰਿ ਧਨੁ ਅਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਵੇਲੈ ਵਤੈ ਕਾ ਬੀਜਿਆ ਭਗਤ ਖਾਇ ਖਰਚਿ ਰਹੇ ਨਿਖੁਟੈ ਨਾਹੀ [/FONT][/COLOR] My friend only a farmer or a jatt sikh would know that if you sow seed in the ground when its on “VATT” I don’t know the English literary meaning of “vatt” but if u sow when the soil is on vat then the growth of the plant will be maximum and it will grow. In the same manner amrit wela is the time when the soul is on “VATT” and the seed of naam can make good hold in your soul. This example is given by Guru sahib. I hope now u understand that guru sahib were not against it but they came to teach us fools. So here not only I have explained u the meaning of the tuk or verse u asked about but I have also given you more examples from gurbaani, I have also made it clear to you that don’t keep it in your mind that guru sahib were against the nature but it is we the people who are against his nature. The next thing now. I quote “Aren't thinking of the family and business even in the Gurdwara which may help us give new ideas to make our family and business better parts of Miri-Piri concept of Sikhi way of life?” I want to ask you my friend Did you come to this world to make a good business??? Its ok that we cant live the life of sanyasis as its also forbidden in SGGS. But if you have read the gurbaani you would not have asked me this question because its clearly mentioned in SGGS that the aim of the man who is sent on this world is not “TO MAKE THEIR BUSINESS” What is the aim then??? Guru arjan dev ji has said “[B]bhai prapat manukh dehuriya,Gobind Milan ki eh teri bariya”[/B] Now after reading this the question which should come to your mind is “How to meet with GOBIND or GOD then??” But I guess it wont. SO I’ll tell you sir,[FONT=Raavi] [/FONT]guru amardas ji says on pg 109-110 [COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰਮੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਮਿਲਾਏ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red]ll[/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਸੇਵਾ ਸੁਰਤ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਏ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red]ll[/COLOR] It clearly means that it is not in your control to find a true guru ([FONT=Raavi]ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ[/FONT])[FONT=Raavi] [/FONT]but if its in your fate then u’ll come across the true guru and then what will happen??? [COLOR=red]ll[/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਸੇਵਾ ਸੁਰਤ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਏ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red]ll[/COLOR] He’ll tell u to serve the almighty , how?? By merging your surt(soul) in the naam or shabd . Naam or shabd is no where else but in your body , within yourself. Now anyone can object me here and say, what am I talking??? Am I out of my mind?? But I’m not sayin this . SGGS says this GURU NANAK SAYS IN SGGS on pg 1026 [FONT=Raavi]ਦੇਹੀ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਵਾਸੀ[/FONT]ll[FONT=Raavi] ਆਪੇ ਕਰਤਾ ਹੈ ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ [/FONT]ll Can naam be easily obtained??? NO says guru sahib. Guru ramdaas ji says on pg 1242 [COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨ ਅਲਖੁ ਹੈ ਕਿਉ ਲਖਿਆ ਜਾਈ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red]ll[/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][/COLOR] But in the same shabad he says [COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰ ਪੂਰੇ ਤੇ ਪਾਈਐ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਦੇਈ ਦਿਖਾਈ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red]ll[/COLOR] This clearly means theat when u get the true guru or poora guru, he’ll show it to you within yourself. [/QUOTE]
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