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Japji Sahib - Pauri 26
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<blockquote data-quote="Amarpal" data-source="post: 2358" data-attributes="member: 10"><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Dear Members,</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">This post is to share with you what I understand from 26th Pauri of Japji Sahib.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><u>Caution</u>:</strong> My understanding of this Pauri is very different from what is given in published literature. In this post I will be as transparent as is possible for me as to why I understand it that way. The basic cause of my thinking going in a different direction is the use of the word trade (vaapaar) in the first sentence of this Pauri and my understanding that ‘The Sat’ is not a trader.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">According to me, this Pauri has four parts. I the <u>first part</u> of this Pauri, Guru Sahib is telling me about the large scope, enormous possibility that exists for misunderstanding and even misusing the infinite immenseness and richness of ‘Karta Purakh’.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In the <u>second part</u> of this Pauri Guru Sahib tells me why I am what I am and the fact that ‘The Sat’ cannot be described. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In the <u>third part</u> of this Pauri Guru Sahib gives examples in support what he has said earlier in this Pauri. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In the <u>fourth part</u> Guru Sahib gives the message for me to follow.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With this preface I expose my understanding of this Pauri to you all. After each sentence I will explain what I learn and why I come to this understanding.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><u>First Part</u>:</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">1. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">Amul gux Amul vwpwr ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">amul gu<u>n</u> amul vaapaar.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Priceless virtues, priceless trade.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: The question that comes to my mind is that, what trade Guru Sahib is referring too. Every one of us knows that ‘The Sat’ is repository of all, including all the virtues. We also know that ‘The Sat’ is not a trader. What can any one give to ‘Karta Purakh’ in trade – nothing? ‘Karta Purakh’ we know does not need any thing from any one. Trade is always need two parties and ‘The Sat’ is definitely not one of them. The trade word must be applying to we human. The search for the answer leads me to the following understanding.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Guru Sahib is telling be that the priceless virtues of ‘The Sat’, give enough scope for the intelligent, but self centered, selfish people to make thriving priceless business out of it. This what in Hindi I call ‘<u>Bhagvangiri</u>’. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">2. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">Amul vwpwrIey Amul BMfwr ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">amul vaapaaree-ay amul <u>bh</u>andaar.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Priceless traders, priceless stock.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><u>My understanding</u>: Again Guru Sahib has used a derivative of the word ‘trade’ i.e. traders. Guru Sahib is telling me that the individuals in the business of Bhagvangiri are very intelligent and capable (though perverted) people. They make use of the priceless stock of the attributes and virtues of the ‘The Sat’ to meet their own intent. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">3. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">Amul Awvih Amul lY jwih ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">amul aavahi amul lai jaahi.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Priceless come and Priceless is what they take with them.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: Guru Sahib is telling me that these intelligent, capable, crafty individuals come and select the attribute or virtue of the ‘Karta Purakh’ from its stock. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">4. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">Amul Bwie Amulw smwih ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">amul <u>bh</u>aa-ay amulaa samaahi.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Priceless feeling, priceless is what they colour themselves into.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: These intelligent people come and take the colour of what they find to be priceless for them (in their would be trade) from the immenseness of ‘Karta Purakh’.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">5. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">Amulu Drmu Amulu dIbwxu ] </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">amul <u>Dh</u>aram amul <u>d</u>eebaa<u>n</u>.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Priceless Dharma, priceless court.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: Guru Sahib is telling me that these intelligent people create multiple religions and sects each with an environment of its own that make the followers feel that what they are pursuing is really ‘The Sat’.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">6. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">Amulu qulu Amulu prvwxu ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">amul <u>t</u>ul amul parvaa<u>n</u>.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Priceless are the yardsticks and priceless it is to get accepted.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: Each of them creates their own criteria (beneficial to them) for assessment and acceptance of individuals into their fold.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">7. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">Amulu bKsIs Amulu nIswxu ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">amul ba<u>kh</u>sees amul neesaa<u>n</u>.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Priceless blessings, priceless insignia.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: There are so many ways that ‘Karta Purakh’ can shower grace or blessings on we humans. Each way of blessing can be used by these intelligent people to create a new symbol i.e. insignia. For example if those who are graced by knowledge ‘Saraswati’ becomes their insignia. Those who are blesses with wealth ‘Lakshmi becomes their insignia. Those blessed with strength and power Durga becomes their insignia; this list can be endless. These intelligent crafty people can use each one of the blessing that we human can get from ‘The Sat’ to create a separate following for their own advantage.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Guru Sahib, in this first part of the Pauri have shown me the possibility as to how intelligent crafty people for their own sake can create dualities profiting from limitedness of we humans and from the immenseness of ‘The Sat’.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With this preface Guru Sahib now start the second of part of this Pauri.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><u>Second Part</u>:</strong> </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">8. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">Amulu krmu Amulu Purmwxu ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">amul karam amul furmaa<u>n</u>.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Priceless deeds result in priceless ‘Hukam’ from ‘Karta Purakh’.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">9. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">Amulo Amulu AwiKAw n jwie ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">amulo amul aa<u>kh</u>i-aa na jaa-ay.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Those who have been assessed by ‘Karta Purakh’ as priceless cannot describe the priceless.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">10. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">AwiK AwiK rhy ilv lwie ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">aa<u>kh</u> aa<u>kh</u> rahay liv laa-ay.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Attempting to describe ‘Karta Purakh’ these priceless individual get lost in him.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><u>My understanding</u>: I am what I am due to my Karmas. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The condition of these priceless (divine) individual is similar to the grain of salt that gets into sea to measure its depth; it just gets dissolved in it. This is what happens to those who have become divine. They simply cannot describe ‘The Sat’. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Having told us as to how intelligent interested people can profit from limitedness of we humans and the infinite immenseness of ‘Karta Purakh’ to convert it into profitable trade for themselves, Guru Sahib moves to the third part where he gives examples of the duality created, which was in the common knowledge of the people at the time of Guru Sahib; that is the case even now. I understand that these dualities can get created to serve the purpose of some section of the society or can result from limitedness of the individuals who try to perceive ‘The Sat’ using human faculties.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><u>Third Part</u>:</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">11. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">AwKih vyd pwT purwx ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">aa<u>kh</u>ahi vay<u>d</u> paa<u>th</u> puraa<u>n</u>.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">They say about Veda and reading Puranas. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: Here Guru Sahib has covered the entire span of the Indian scripture that exist at his time; this scripture starts with Veda and ends with Puranas.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">12. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">AwKih pVy krih viKAwx ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">aa<u>kh</u>ahi pa<u>rh</u>ay karahi va<u>kh</u>i-aa<u>n</u>.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The scholars say and give lectures.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: Guru Sahib is telling me that these so called scholars give lectures on entity (The Sat’), which cannot be described at all. So one can conclude what that lecture can be, only intellectual sophistry. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">13. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">AwKih brmy AwKih ieMd ] </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">aa<u>kh</u>ahi barmay aa<u>kh</u>ahi in<u>d</u>.</span></span><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'WebLipiHeavy'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'WebLipiHeavy'"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: green"><span style="font-size: 12px">They say about Brahma and Indra.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: Here Guru Sahib has started giving concrete example of dualities created by hair splitting by intelligent mind. Indra is God of Vedas; Brahma is the God from subsequent scripture - Upanishads. These dualities are created by we humans.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">14. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">AwKih gopI qY goivMd ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">aa<u>kh</u>ahi gopee <u>t</u>ai govin<u>d</u>.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">They say about Gopi and Krishna.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: Here Guru Sahib gives another example of duality created by intelligent mind, which comes from ‘Bhagavatam’; the last scripture compiled by Ved Vayas. (Please note Bhagavatam is not the same as Bhagwat Gita).</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">15. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">AwKih eIsr AwKih isD ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">aa<u>kh</u>ahi eesar aa<u>kh</u>ahi si<u>Dh</u>.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">They talk about Shiva and Sidh.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: Guru Sahib continues to give example of the dualities that we intelligent humans have created. Shiva is not at all mentioned in Vedas, an entity with similar attribute there is Rudra, but subsequent scripture Shiva comes out as on of the major God.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">16. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">AwKih kyqy kIqy buD ] </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">aa<u>kh</u>ahi kay<u>t</u>ay kee<u>t</u>ay bu<u>Dh</u>.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">They say about those who became Buddha.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: Guru Sahib has given example from other scripture of the land. It says that that apart from Gautam the Buddha, whom we know as historic figure, there were many Buddha prior to him. These two are dualities as far as we human are concerned.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">17. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">AwKih dwnv AwKih dyv ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">aa<u>kh</u>ahi <u>d</u>aanav aa<u>kh</u>ahi <u>d</u>ayv.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">They talk about Demons and Devetas (Demi-Gods of Vedas).</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: Guru Sahib again continues to give examples of the entities that are created by interested but involved intelligent people, which are nothing but pluralities. They explain many happening that are narrated in scripture, yet all these are perception of mind. Though it may serves some purpose; we all know the ‘The Sat’ cannot be perceived by mind.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">18. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">AwKih suir nr muin jn syv ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">aa<u>kh</u>ahi sur nar mun jan sayv.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">They talk about heavenly beings, silent sages and humble serving individuals.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: Guru Sahib continue to give example how we intelligent humans have made our own life miserable by creating so many insignias and even keep fighting for oneself to be right. The entities mentioned in this sentence come from Puranas; our earlier scripture of the land </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>Fourth Part</u>:</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In this part Guru Sahib gives us the message for which he has prepared us, up till now in this Pauri.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">19. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">kyqy AwKih AwKix pwih ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">kay<u>t</u>ay aa<u>kh</u>ahi aa<u>kh</u>a<u>n</u> paahi.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Many try to describe (The Sat) but are unable to do so.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: In a way Guru Sahib is telling us that all these dualities is the result of trying to explain ‘The Sat’ by the intelligent individual. Here Guru Sahib is telling me the futility of trying to perceive ‘The Sat’. Guru Sahib is telling me that many have tried in the past – none can do the impossible.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">20. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">kyqy kih kih auiT auiT jwih ] </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">kay<u>t</u>ay kahi kahi u<u>th</u> u<u>th</u> jaahi.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Many keep trying (to describe ‘The Sat’) and then leave it and depart.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: Guru Sahib is restating what is said in the previous sentence. This is to emphasis so that I do not waste my energy in attempting to do, which is going to be a certain failure. ‘Karta Purakh’ cannot be realised by human effort with any or all of the human faculties. Guru Sahib has said the same in the ‘Mool Mantra’ – ‘Gurparsadi’. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">21. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">eyqy kIqy hoir kryih ] </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">ay<u>t</u>ay kee<u>t</u>ay hor karayhi</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">If as many numerous ways that have been used to describe (‘The Sat’) are used again.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">22. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">qw AwiK n skih kyeI kyie ] </span></span><u><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">t</span></span></u><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">aa aa<u>kh</u> na sakahi kay-ee kay-ay.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Even then, they will not be able to describe (‘The Sat’).</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: In the above two sentences, Guru Sahib continues to emphasis the impossibility of perceiving ‘The Ultimate Reality’ by our own efforts.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">23. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">jyvfu BwvY qyvfu hoie ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">jayvad <u>bh</u>aavai <u>t</u>ayvad ho-ay.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">As great ‘Karta Purakh’ wants, that great only one can be.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: Here Guru Sahib is telling me that we are created by ‘Karta Purakh’ we cannot go beyond the limitedness built into our being on our own. We cannot cross that barrier on our own. We have to wait for ‘Gurparsadi’</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">24. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">nwnk jwxY swcw soie ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">naanak jaa<u>n</u>ai saachaa so-ay.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">O Nanak, ‘The Sat’ only knows.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u>My understanding</u>: Guru Sahib is telling me, no use making such attempt; ‘Karta Purakh’ only knows the reality.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">25. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">jy ko AwKY boluivgwVu ] </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">jay ko aa<u>kh</u>ai boluvigaa<u>rh</u>.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">If someone describes, it will only be a confused and untrue description. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">26. </span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'">qw ilKIAY isir gwvwrw gwvwru ]26] </span></span><u><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">t</span></span></u><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">aa likee-ai sir gaavaaraa gaavaar. ||26||</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Such person will be recorded as the greatest of the fools.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Note: these two sentences are straight forward and do not need any elaboration.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><u><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Summary of my understanding</span></u></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">:</span></strong></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Through this Pauri, Guru Sahib has asked me not to stretch my imagination in trying to perceive ‘The Sat’. Intelligent people using one or few of the enormous attributes of ‘Karta Purakh’ create such perceptions (insignia) to serve some purpose. I should not accept of follow these dualities. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Guru Sahib has told me that ‘The Sat’ is One indivisible entity and I should not make any attempt to perceive it through human faculties. This Guru Sahib has stated through the term ‘Ek Onkaar’ in the Mool Mantra itself. All this is to say that dualities are creation of we humans; the ‘Ultimate Reality is only one and I should not get entangled in the complications created by the dualities.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With this I close.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With Love and Respect for all.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Amarpal.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Amarpal, post: 2358, member: 10"] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Dear Members,[/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]This post is to share with you what I understand from 26th Pauri of Japji Sahib.[/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][b][u]Caution[/u]:[/b] My understanding of this Pauri is very different from what is given in published literature. In this post I will be as transparent as is possible for me as to why I understand it that way. The basic cause of my thinking going in a different direction is the use of the word trade (vaapaar) in the first sentence of this Pauri and my understanding that ‘The Sat’ is not a trader.[/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]According to me, this Pauri has four parts. I the [u]first part[/u] of this Pauri, Guru Sahib is telling me about the large scope, enormous possibility that exists for misunderstanding and even misusing the infinite immenseness and richness of ‘Karta Purakh’.[/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]In the [u]second part[/u] of this Pauri Guru Sahib tells me why I am what I am and the fact that ‘The Sat’ cannot be described. [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]In the [u]third part[/u] of this Pauri Guru Sahib gives examples in support what he has said earlier in this Pauri. [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]In the [u]fourth part[/u] Guru Sahib gives the message for me to follow.[/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]With this preface I expose my understanding of this Pauri to you all. After each sentence I will explain what I learn and why I come to this understanding.[/size][/font] [b][font=Times New Roman][size=3][u]First Part[/u]:[/size][/font][/b] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]1. [/font][/size][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]Amul gux Amul vwpwr ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]amul gu[u]n[/u] amul vaapaar. [/font][font=Times New Roman]Priceless virtues, priceless trade.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: The question that comes to my mind is that, what trade Guru Sahib is referring too. Every one of us knows that ‘The Sat’ is repository of all, including all the virtues. We also know that ‘The Sat’ is not a trader. What can any one give to ‘Karta Purakh’ in trade – nothing? ‘Karta Purakh’ we know does not need any thing from any one. Trade is always need two parties and ‘The Sat’ is definitely not one of them. The trade word must be applying to we human. The search for the answer leads me to the following understanding.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]Guru Sahib is telling be that the priceless virtues of ‘The Sat’, give enough scope for the intelligent, but self centered, selfish people to make thriving priceless business out of it. This what in Hindi I call ‘[u]Bhagvangiri[/u]’. [/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]2. [/font][/size][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]Amul vwpwrIey Amul BMfwr ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]amul vaapaaree-ay amul [u]bh[/u]andaar. [/font][font=Times New Roman]Priceless traders, priceless stock.[/font][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][u]My understanding[/u]: Again Guru Sahib has used a derivative of the word ‘trade’ i.e. traders. Guru Sahib is telling me that the individuals in the business of Bhagvangiri are very intelligent and capable (though perverted) people. They make use of the priceless stock of the attributes and virtues of the ‘The Sat’ to meet their own intent. [/size][/font] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]3. [/font][/size][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]Amul Awvih Amul lY jwih ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]amul aavahi amul lai jaahi. [/font][font=Times New Roman]Priceless come and Priceless is what they take with them.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: Guru Sahib is telling me that these intelligent, capable, crafty individuals come and select the attribute or virtue of the ‘Karta Purakh’ from its stock. [/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]4. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]Amul Bwie Amulw smwih ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]amul [u]bh[/u]aa-ay amulaa samaahi. [/font][font=Times New Roman]Priceless feeling, priceless is what they colour themselves into.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: These intelligent people come and take the colour of what they find to be priceless for them (in their would be trade) from the immenseness of ‘Karta Purakh’.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]5. [/font][/size][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]Amulu Drmu Amulu dIbwxu ] [/font][/color][font=Tahoma][size=3]amul [u]Dh[/u]aram amul [u]d[/u]eebaa[u]n[/u].[/size][/font] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]Priceless Dharma, priceless court.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: Guru Sahib is telling me that these intelligent people create multiple religions and sects each with an environment of its own that make the followers feel that what they are pursuing is really ‘The Sat’.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]6. [/font][/size][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]Amulu qulu Amulu prvwxu ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]amul [u]t[/u]ul amul parvaa[u]n[/u]. [/font][font=Times New Roman]Priceless are the yardsticks and priceless it is to get accepted.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: Each of them creates their own criteria (beneficial to them) for assessment and acceptance of individuals into their fold.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]7. [/font][/size][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]Amulu bKsIs Amulu nIswxu ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]amul ba[u]kh[/u]sees amul neesaa[u]n[/u]. [/font][font=Times New Roman]Priceless blessings, priceless insignia.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: There are so many ways that ‘Karta Purakh’ can shower grace or blessings on we humans. Each way of blessing can be used by these intelligent people to create a new symbol i.e. insignia. For example if those who are graced by knowledge ‘Saraswati’ becomes their insignia. Those who are blesses with wealth ‘Lakshmi becomes their insignia. Those blessed with strength and power Durga becomes their insignia; this list can be endless. These intelligent crafty people can use each one of the blessing that we human can get from ‘The Sat’ to create a separate following for their own advantage.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Guru Sahib, in this first part of the Pauri have shown me the possibility as to how intelligent crafty people for their own sake can create dualities profiting from limitedness of we humans and from the immenseness of ‘The Sat’.[/size][/font] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]With this preface Guru Sahib now start the second of part of this Pauri.[/size][/font] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][b][u]Second Part[/u]:[/b] [/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]8. [/font][/size][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]Amulu krmu Amulu Purmwxu ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]amul karam amul furmaa[u]n[/u]. [/font][font=Times New Roman]Priceless deeds result in priceless ‘Hukam’ from ‘Karta Purakh’.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]9. [/font][/size][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]Amulo Amulu AwiKAw n jwie ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]amulo amul aa[u]kh[/u]i-aa na jaa-ay. [/font][font=Times New Roman]Those who have been assessed by ‘Karta Purakh’ as priceless cannot describe the priceless.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]10. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]AwiK AwiK rhy ilv lwie ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]aa[u]kh[/u] aa[u]kh[/u] rahay liv laa-ay. [/font][font=Times New Roman]Attempting to describe ‘Karta Purakh’ these priceless individual get lost in him.[/font][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][u]My understanding[/u]: I am what I am due to my Karmas. [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]The condition of these priceless (divine) individual is similar to the grain of salt that gets into sea to measure its depth; it just gets dissolved in it. This is what happens to those who have become divine. They simply cannot describe ‘The Sat’. [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Having told us as to how intelligent interested people can profit from limitedness of we humans and the infinite immenseness of ‘Karta Purakh’ to convert it into profitable trade for themselves, Guru Sahib moves to the third part where he gives examples of the duality created, which was in the common knowledge of the people at the time of Guru Sahib; that is the case even now. I understand that these dualities can get created to serve the purpose of some section of the society or can result from limitedness of the individuals who try to perceive ‘The Sat’ using human faculties.[/size][/font] [b][font=Times New Roman][size=3][u]Third Part[/u]:[/size][/font][/b] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]11. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]AwKih vyd pwT purwx ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]aa[u]kh[/u]ahi vay[u]d[/u] paa[u]th[/u] puraa[u]n[/u]. [/font][font=Times New Roman]They say about Veda and reading Puranas. [/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: Here Guru Sahib has covered the entire span of the Indian scripture that exist at his time; this scripture starts with Veda and ends with Puranas.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]12. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]AwKih pVy krih viKAwx ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]aa[u]kh[/u]ahi pa[u]rh[/u]ay karahi va[u]kh[/u]i-aa[u]n[/u]. [/font][font=Times New Roman]The scholars say and give lectures.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: Guru Sahib is telling me that these so called scholars give lectures on entity (The Sat’), which cannot be described at all. So one can conclude what that lecture can be, only intellectual sophistry. [/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]13. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]AwKih brmy AwKih ieMd ] [/font][/color][font=Tahoma][size=3]aa[u]kh[/u]ahi barmay aa[u]kh[/u]ahi in[u]d[/u].[/size][/font][color=green][font=WebLipiHeavy] [/font][/color][font=Times New Roman][color=green][size=3]They say about Brahma and Indra.[/size][/color][/font] [color=green][size=3][/size][/color] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: Here Guru Sahib has started giving concrete example of dualities created by hair splitting by intelligent mind. Indra is God of Vedas; Brahma is the God from subsequent scripture - Upanishads. These dualities are created by we humans.[/font][/size] [color=green][size=3][/size][/color] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]14. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]AwKih gopI qY goivMd ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]aa[u]kh[/u]ahi gopee [u]t[/u]ai govin[u]d[/u]. [/font][font=Times New Roman]They say about Gopi and Krishna.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: Here Guru Sahib gives another example of duality created by intelligent mind, which comes from ‘Bhagavatam’; the last scripture compiled by Ved Vayas. (Please note Bhagavatam is not the same as Bhagwat Gita).[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]15. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]AwKih eIsr AwKih isD ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]aa[u]kh[/u]ahi eesar aa[u]kh[/u]ahi si[u]Dh[/u]. [/font][font=Times New Roman]They talk about Shiva and Sidh.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: Guru Sahib continues to give example of the dualities that we intelligent humans have created. Shiva is not at all mentioned in Vedas, an entity with similar attribute there is Rudra, but subsequent scripture Shiva comes out as on of the major God.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]16. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]AwKih kyqy kIqy buD ] [/font][/color][font=Tahoma][size=3]aa[u]kh[/u]ahi kay[u]t[/u]ay kee[u]t[/u]ay bu[u]Dh[/u].[/size][/font] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]They say about those who became Buddha.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: Guru Sahib has given example from other scripture of the land. It says that that apart from Gautam the Buddha, whom we know as historic figure, there were many Buddha prior to him. These two are dualities as far as we human are concerned.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]17. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]AwKih dwnv AwKih dyv ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]aa[u]kh[/u]ahi [u]d[/u]aanav aa[u]kh[/u]ahi [u]d[/u]ayv. [/font][font=Times New Roman]They talk about Demons and Devetas (Demi-Gods of Vedas).[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: Guru Sahib again continues to give examples of the entities that are created by interested but involved intelligent people, which are nothing but pluralities. They explain many happening that are narrated in scripture, yet all these are perception of mind. Though it may serves some purpose; we all know the ‘The Sat’ cannot be perceived by mind.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]18. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]AwKih suir nr muin jn syv ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]aa[u]kh[/u]ahi sur nar mun jan sayv. [/font][font=Times New Roman]They talk about heavenly beings, silent sages and humble serving individuals.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: Guru Sahib continue to give example how we intelligent humans have made our own life miserable by creating so many insignias and even keep fighting for oneself to be right. The entities mentioned in this sentence come from Puranas; our earlier scripture of the land [/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [b][size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]Fourth Part[/u]:[/font][/size][/b] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]In this part Guru Sahib gives us the message for which he has prepared us, up till now in this Pauri.[/size][/font] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]19. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]kyqy AwKih AwKix pwih ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]kay[u]t[/u]ay aa[u]kh[/u]ahi aa[u]kh[/u]a[u]n[/u] paahi. [/font][font=Times New Roman]Many try to describe (The Sat) but are unable to do so.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: In a way Guru Sahib is telling us that all these dualities is the result of trying to explain ‘The Sat’ by the intelligent individual. Here Guru Sahib is telling me the futility of trying to perceive ‘The Sat’. Guru Sahib is telling me that many have tried in the past – none can do the impossible.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]20. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]kyqy kih kih auiT auiT jwih ] [/font][/color][font=Tahoma][size=3]kay[u]t[/u]ay kahi kahi u[u]th[/u] u[u]th[/u] jaahi.[/size][/font] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]Many keep trying (to describe ‘The Sat’) and then leave it and depart.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: Guru Sahib is restating what is said in the previous sentence. This is to emphasis so that I do not waste my energy in attempting to do, which is going to be a certain failure. ‘Karta Purakh’ cannot be realised by human effort with any or all of the human faculties. Guru Sahib has said the same in the ‘Mool Mantra’ – ‘Gurparsadi’. [/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]21. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]eyqy kIqy hoir kryih ] [/font][/color][font=Tahoma][size=3]ay[u]t[/u]ay kee[u]t[/u]ay hor karayhi[/size][/font] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]If as many numerous ways that have been used to describe (‘The Sat’) are used again.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]22. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]qw AwiK n skih kyeI kyie ] [/font][/color][u][font=Tahoma][size=3]t[/size][/font][/u][size=3][font=Tahoma]aa aa[u]kh[/u] na sakahi kay-ee kay-ay. [/font][font=Times New Roman]Even then, they will not be able to describe (‘The Sat’).[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: In the above two sentences, Guru Sahib continues to emphasis the impossibility of perceiving ‘The Ultimate Reality’ by our own efforts.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]23. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]jyvfu BwvY qyvfu hoie ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]jayvad [u]bh[/u]aavai [u]t[/u]ayvad ho-ay. [/font][font=Times New Roman]As great ‘Karta Purakh’ wants, that great only one can be.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: Here Guru Sahib is telling me that we are created by ‘Karta Purakh’ we cannot go beyond the limitedness built into our being on our own. We cannot cross that barrier on our own. We have to wait for ‘Gurparsadi’[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]24. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]nwnk jwxY swcw soie ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]naanak jaa[u]n[/u]ai saachaa so-ay. [/font][font=Times New Roman]O Nanak, ‘The Sat’ only knows.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman][u]My understanding[/u]: Guru Sahib is telling me, no use making such attempt; ‘Karta Purakh’ only knows the reality.[/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]25. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]jy ko AwKY boluivgwVu ] [/font][/color][size=3][font=Tahoma]jay ko aa[u]kh[/u]ai boluvigaa[u]rh[/u]. [/font][font=Times New Roman]If someone describes, it will only be a confused and untrue description. [/font][/size] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]26. [/size][/font][color=maroon][font=WebAkharThick]qw ilKIAY isir gwvwrw gwvwru ]26] [/font][/color][u][font=Tahoma][size=3]t[/size][/font][/u][size=3][font=Tahoma]aa likee-ai sir gaavaaraa gaavaar. ||26|| [/font][font=Times New Roman]Such person will be recorded as the greatest of the fools.[/font][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Note: these two sentences are straight forward and do not need any elaboration.[/size][/font] [size=3][b][u][font=Times New Roman]Summary of my understanding[/font][/u][/b][b][font=Times New Roman]:[/font][/b][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Through this Pauri, Guru Sahib has asked me not to stretch my imagination in trying to perceive ‘The Sat’. Intelligent people using one or few of the enormous attributes of ‘Karta Purakh’ create such perceptions (insignia) to serve some purpose. I should not accept of follow these dualities. [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Guru Sahib has told me that ‘The Sat’ is One indivisible entity and I should not make any attempt to perceive it through human faculties. This Guru Sahib has stated through the term ‘Ek Onkaar’ in the Mool Mantra itself. All this is to say that dualities are creation of we humans; the ‘Ultimate Reality is only one and I should not get entangled in the complications created by the dualities.[/size][/font] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]With this I close.[/size][/font] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]With Love and Respect for all.[/size][/font] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman]Amarpal.[/font] [/QUOTE]
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Guru Granth Sahib
Jup Banee
Japji Sahib - Pauri 26
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