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<blockquote data-quote="Archived_member15" data-source="post: 176566" data-attributes="member: 17438"><p>Dear sister Ishna ji mundahug</p><p> </p><p>Thank you for this thread and for the introduction. </p><p> </p><p>I see much that is worthy and progressive in it, however I detect also (and this is the only part I disagree with) a certain bias of the author towards Christianity as being a closer counterpart to Islam and a very blatant, unfair and generalized account of Judaism which does not match up with the true majesty of this independent, world religion - and is I fear even a coded, latent form of anti-semitism that is still sadly rife in the Islamic world and was too in Christianity until the horrors of the Holocaust in Europe. </p><p> </p><p>In fact I would say that Islam and Judaism share more in common than do Islam and Christianity. Islam and Judaism both have dietary laws, whereas Christianity has none. Islam and Judaism both have rules on dress and clothing, whereas Christianity doesn't. Jesus in fact did not create or promulgate a religious law at all.</p><p> </p><p>The Pope explained this in his address to the German Parliament last year: </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Christianity does not propose a law grounded in a particular revelation. Rather, it grounds Law in universal Natural Law discovered through reason. Judaism has Halakha and Islam has Sharia, divinely revealed laws taught by Moses and Muhammad for society. Jesus never taught a legal system. He left his diciples only one command. JOHN 13:34 NKJ 34 "<strong><em>A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another</em></strong>". </p><p> </p><p>Islam and Judaism both have circumcision, whereas Christianity does not. I could go on, but I think that you get the point already. </p><p> </p><p>The author writes: </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>This is an unacceptable, unfair and unscholarly description of another faith. I find it very rich that Muslims often decry generalizationa of Islam and unfair criticism (of which there are sadly plenty), when they also do the same with Judaism and Jews, as this introduction demonstrates. </p><p> </p><p>Point-by-point: </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>This is a common misinterpretation of Judaism that the Nazis used as a propaganda tool during the Third Reich. Jewish tradition teaches that all peoples were called by God and that the Jews were the only ones in the earth in that time that answered the call. Their "Chosen-ness" is to be a blessing and a light to all other nations, as the Tanakh describes: </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Furthermore Jews do not teach about a "National God" who belongs only to Jews. Again let me refer to the Tanakh: </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Furthermore Judaism teaches that all people, from every nation and religion, can have a share in the <em>Olam Haba </em>(world to come). Judaism, unlike Islam and Christianity, has never restricted salvation to only Jews, but recognises that all people of good will can go to heaven. Judaism believes that those who do not feel compelled to convert to Judaism can just as well achieve a share in the World to Come by following the moral principles of the Seven Laws of Noah as well as the tenets of their own faith. That is far more enlightened than traditional forms of Islam and Christianity, and Judaism is a FAR older religion from a more primitive culture - so shame upon Muslims and Christians!!!! </p><p> </p><p>The Tanakh expressly recognises that people of all religions worship God and that God accepts their diverse worship of him: </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>The <strong><em><u>exact </u></em></strong>same can be said about Islam's use of spurious Hadiths written CENTURIES after the lifetime of Muhammad. The Qur'an Alone Muslims continually point out that the Hadiths often contradict the Qur'an and bear no historical relation to the actual Muhmmad. And what makes this more laughable is that the Qur'an uses the Talmud as one of its sources! No kidding. </p><p> </p><p>For example, God forbids Moses from suckling from a foster mother in both the Qur'an and Talmud:</p><p> </p><p><strong>And We had already forbidden foster suckling mothers for him, until [his sister] said: Shall I show you a household who will rear him for you and take care of him?</strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>~The Qur'an 28:12</strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>The Holy One, Blessed is He, said: "Shall the mouth that will one day speak to me suckle from anything unclean?"</strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>~The Talmud</strong></p><p> </p><p>This isn't mentioned at all in the Bible. </p><p> </p><p>Both the Qur'an and the Talmud tell the story of God raising a mountain over the Israelites:</p><p> </p><p><strong>"We raised the mountain over them as if it had been a canopy, and they thought that it was going to fall on them. (We said): "Hold firmly to what We have given you."</strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>~The Qur'an 7:171</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>The Holy One, blessed is He, raised a mountain over Israel as though it were a dome. And He said to them: if you hold to the Torah all is well, but if not you will be buried here!</strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>~The Talmud</strong></p><p> </p><p>Once more this isn't biblical! It comes from the Talmud, the Oral Torah which both Jesus and Muhammad seemed to take for granted as having genuine truths about Moses and the Torah. </p><p> </p><p><strong>Targum of Jonathan-ben-Uzziah</strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>"Adam and Eve, sitting by the corpse, wept not knowing what to do, for they had as yet no knowledge of burial. A raven came up, took the dead body of its fellow, and having scratched at the earth, buried it thus before their eyes. Adam said, 'Let us follow the example of the raven,' so taking up Abel's body, buried it at once."</strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>Qur'an- sura 5:31</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>"Then Allah sent a raven, who scratched the ground, to show him how to hide the shame of his brother. 'Woe is me!' said he; 'Was I not even able to be as this raven, and to hide the shame of my brother?' Then he became full of regrets."</strong></p><p> </p><p>That's another story from the Oral Torah mentioned in the Qur'an. There are many more: </p><p> </p><p>The Qur'an relates a Talmudic parable about the value of human life in its account of the murder of Abel by Cain.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Quran</strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>“ On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. [Qur'an 5:32] --Translated by Yusuf Ali ” </strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>This is mentioned nowhere in the Tanakh (Old Tetament). It actually makes no sense in the Qu'anic context of the passage above. It makes sense only in the Talmud, where it is a Rabbinic interpretation of a word used in Genesis referring to the murder of Abel by his brother Cain in which a "plural" word in Hebrew is used for "blood" ie the spilling of Abel's blood is not singular but plural. The Jewish Rabbis interpreted this as being a reference to all humanity and thus came up with this interpretation, which the Qur'an used after the Talmud and got from the Talmud: </p><p> </p><p><strong>Mishnah</strong></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>In another edition of the Mishnayot, the wording is: "<em>Whoever destroys the life of a single human being [nefesh a`hat mi-bnei adam] ... it is as if he had destroyed an entire world; and whoever preserves the life of a single human being ... it is as if he had preserved an entire world</em>".</p><p> </p><p>Thus a teaching often attributed to Muhammad about the inestimable value of a single human life, was actually first taught by the Jewish Rabbis who wrote the Talmud before Muhammad. </p><p> </p><p>The story of the Raven and the Burial of Abel in the Qur'an also has no precedent in the written Torah but is mentioned in the Talmud. </p><p> </p><p>I am <em><u><strong>appalled</strong></u></em> by this outrageous attack upon Judaism. I am very dissapointed that I - a non-Jew - am actualy having to defend another world religion. </p><p> </p><p>It demonstrates ZERO attempt at trying to actually understand Judaism in a considerate and open-minded fashion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archived_member15, post: 176566, member: 17438"] Dear sister Ishna ji mundahug Thank you for this thread and for the introduction. I see much that is worthy and progressive in it, however I detect also (and this is the only part I disagree with) a certain bias of the author towards Christianity as being a closer counterpart to Islam and a very blatant, unfair and generalized account of Judaism which does not match up with the true majesty of this independent, world religion - and is I fear even a coded, latent form of anti-semitism that is still sadly rife in the Islamic world and was too in Christianity until the horrors of the Holocaust in Europe. In fact I would say that Islam and Judaism share more in common than do Islam and Christianity. Islam and Judaism both have dietary laws, whereas Christianity has none. Islam and Judaism both have rules on dress and clothing, whereas Christianity doesn't. Jesus in fact did not create or promulgate a religious law at all. The Pope explained this in his address to the German Parliament last year: Christianity does not propose a law grounded in a particular revelation. Rather, it grounds Law in universal Natural Law discovered through reason. Judaism has Halakha and Islam has Sharia, divinely revealed laws taught by Moses and Muhammad for society. Jesus never taught a legal system. He left his diciples only one command. JOHN 13:34 NKJ 34 "[B][I]A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another[/I][/B]". Islam and Judaism both have circumcision, whereas Christianity does not. I could go on, but I think that you get the point already. The author writes: This is an unacceptable, unfair and unscholarly description of another faith. I find it very rich that Muslims often decry generalizationa of Islam and unfair criticism (of which there are sadly plenty), when they also do the same with Judaism and Jews, as this introduction demonstrates. Point-by-point: This is a common misinterpretation of Judaism that the Nazis used as a propaganda tool during the Third Reich. Jewish tradition teaches that all peoples were called by God and that the Jews were the only ones in the earth in that time that answered the call. Their "Chosen-ness" is to be a blessing and a light to all other nations, as the Tanakh describes: Furthermore Jews do not teach about a "National God" who belongs only to Jews. Again let me refer to the Tanakh: Furthermore Judaism teaches that all people, from every nation and religion, can have a share in the [I]Olam Haba [/I](world to come). Judaism, unlike Islam and Christianity, has never restricted salvation to only Jews, but recognises that all people of good will can go to heaven. Judaism believes that those who do not feel compelled to convert to Judaism can just as well achieve a share in the World to Come by following the moral principles of the Seven Laws of Noah as well as the tenets of their own faith. That is far more enlightened than traditional forms of Islam and Christianity, and Judaism is a FAR older religion from a more primitive culture - so shame upon Muslims and Christians!!!! The Tanakh expressly recognises that people of all religions worship God and that God accepts their diverse worship of him: [SIZE=3][/SIZE] The [B][I][U]exact [/U][/I][/B]same can be said about Islam's use of spurious Hadiths written CENTURIES after the lifetime of Muhammad. The Qur'an Alone Muslims continually point out that the Hadiths often contradict the Qur'an and bear no historical relation to the actual Muhmmad. And what makes this more laughable is that the Qur'an uses the Talmud as one of its sources! No kidding. For example, God forbids Moses from suckling from a foster mother in both the Qur'an and Talmud: [B]And We had already forbidden foster suckling mothers for him, until [his sister] said: Shall I show you a household who will rear him for you and take care of him?[/B] [B]~The Qur'an 28:12[/B] [B]The Holy One, Blessed is He, said: "Shall the mouth that will one day speak to me suckle from anything unclean?"[/B] [B]~The Talmud[/B] This isn't mentioned at all in the Bible. Both the Qur'an and the Talmud tell the story of God raising a mountain over the Israelites: [B]"We raised the mountain over them as if it had been a canopy, and they thought that it was going to fall on them. (We said): "Hold firmly to what We have given you."[/B] [B]~The Qur'an 7:171[/B] [B]The Holy One, blessed is He, raised a mountain over Israel as though it were a dome. And He said to them: if you hold to the Torah all is well, but if not you will be buried here![/B] [B]~The Talmud[/B] Once more this isn't biblical! It comes from the Talmud, the Oral Torah which both Jesus and Muhammad seemed to take for granted as having genuine truths about Moses and the Torah. [B]Targum of Jonathan-ben-Uzziah[/B] [B]"Adam and Eve, sitting by the corpse, wept not knowing what to do, for they had as yet no knowledge of burial. A raven came up, took the dead body of its fellow, and having scratched at the earth, buried it thus before their eyes. Adam said, 'Let us follow the example of the raven,' so taking up Abel's body, buried it at once."[/B] [B]Qur'an- sura 5:31[/B] [B]"Then Allah sent a raven, who scratched the ground, to show him how to hide the shame of his brother. 'Woe is me!' said he; 'Was I not even able to be as this raven, and to hide the shame of my brother?' Then he became full of regrets."[/B] That's another story from the Oral Torah mentioned in the Qur'an. There are many more: The Qur'an relates a Talmudic parable about the value of human life in its account of the murder of Abel by Cain. [B]Quran[/B] [B]“ On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. [Qur'an 5:32] --Translated by Yusuf Ali ” [/B] This is mentioned nowhere in the Tanakh (Old Tetament). It actually makes no sense in the Qu'anic context of the passage above. It makes sense only in the Talmud, where it is a Rabbinic interpretation of a word used in Genesis referring to the murder of Abel by his brother Cain in which a "plural" word in Hebrew is used for "blood" ie the spilling of Abel's blood is not singular but plural. The Jewish Rabbis interpreted this as being a reference to all humanity and thus came up with this interpretation, which the Qur'an used after the Talmud and got from the Talmud: [B]Mishnah[/B] In another edition of the Mishnayot, the wording is: "[I]Whoever destroys the life of a single human being [nefesh a`hat mi-bnei adam] ... it is as if he had destroyed an entire world; and whoever preserves the life of a single human being ... it is as if he had preserved an entire world[/I]". Thus a teaching often attributed to Muhammad about the inestimable value of a single human life, was actually first taught by the Jewish Rabbis who wrote the Talmud before Muhammad. The story of the Raven and the Burial of Abel in the Qur'an also has no precedent in the written Torah but is mentioned in the Talmud. I am [I][U][B]appalled[/B][/U][/I] by this outrageous attack upon Judaism. I am very dissapointed that I - a non-Jew - am actualy having to defend another world religion. It demonstrates ZERO attempt at trying to actually understand Judaism in a considerate and open-minded fashion. [/QUOTE]
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