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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="seeker3k" data-source="post: 132006" data-attributes="member: 6459"><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">findingmyway</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In Sikhism we been told by bhai ji and others that With out the God (waheguru) not even one leaf can move. When I was going ashram to ashram in Rishikesh and other places. I asked about the karma. They told me as the bhai ji told me. That we take birth according to the past karma. If I have done good karma then my life will be good. If I done bad karama then my like will be suffering. It is God decide where and when I will be born and when and where I will die. And how I will die. At that time God decided how long I will live. How much and what good I will eat. I can not take one grain that I was not allowed. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">This is like a movie. Where the director have decided the dialog and what cloths I can wear in the movie. Which hand I can move up or down. What I am saying every move is decided by the director of the movie.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Is there a free will here? This free idea is mostly used by Christians. I put the question to them. If I am driving and I come up at T junction. I can turn right or left. God knows which way I am going to turn. Because by turning the way God had decided I will get into accident with another car. This always said if one dies it was written this way by God. I don’t know that what God knows. Can I turn the other way which God have decided for me? If so am I over riding God’s decision?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The question I put to the rishis was If I go to friends home and I took some from that house with him knowing. Stealing. Am I going to give it back to him in next life or did he stole from me in last life? How can I know what is right? Every thing is written by God and it can not be changed. Just like the movie the villain have to his part. The villain can not change the script, that he won’t kill the hero.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">You see how it is so complicated. It is easy to say but don’t make ant sense at all.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">If every thing is happening to me loss or gain due to my last karma. Then I am not doing any new karma. Then this is my last birth. Because I should be born based on karma. I am not doing any new karma so how can I take birth. Those rishis kicked me out say I am nastic.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">You are lucky person if got it figured it out. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">My intention is not to insult any one. If some one gets hurt emotionally then I am sorry.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seeker3k, post: 132006, member: 6459"] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]findingmyway[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]In Sikhism we been told by bhai ji and others that With out the God (waheguru) not even one leaf can move. When I was going ashram to ashram in Rishikesh and other places. I asked about the karma. They told me as the bhai ji told me. That we take birth according to the past karma. If I have done good karma then my life will be good. If I done bad karama then my like will be suffering. It is God decide where and when I will be born and when and where I will die. And how I will die. At that time God decided how long I will live. How much and what good I will eat. I can not take one grain that I was not allowed. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]This is like a movie. Where the director have decided the dialog and what cloths I can wear in the movie. Which hand I can move up or down. What I am saying every move is decided by the director of the movie.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Is there a free will here? This free idea is mostly used by Christians. I put the question to them. If I am driving and I come up at T junction. I can turn right or left. God knows which way I am going to turn. Because by turning the way God had decided I will get into accident with another car. This always said if one dies it was written this way by God. I don’t know that what God knows. Can I turn the other way which God have decided for me? If so am I over riding God’s decision?[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]The question I put to the rishis was If I go to friends home and I took some from that house with him knowing. Stealing. Am I going to give it back to him in next life or did he stole from me in last life? How can I know what is right? Every thing is written by God and it can not be changed. Just like the movie the villain have to his part. The villain can not change the script, that he won’t kill the hero.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]You see how it is so complicated. It is easy to say but don’t make ant sense at all.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]If every thing is happening to me loss or gain due to my last karma. Then I am not doing any new karma. Then this is my last birth. Because I should be born based on karma. I am not doing any new karma so how can I take birth. Those rishis kicked me out say I am nastic.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]You are lucky person if got it figured it out. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]My intention is not to insult any one. If some one gets hurt emotionally then I am sorry.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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