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Pahre (74-78)
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Bara Maha (133-136)
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Thintteen (343-344)
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Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
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Kaafee (365-409)
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Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
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Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
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Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
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Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
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Gurbani (728-750)
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Vaar Soohee (785-792)
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Gurbani (795-831)
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Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
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Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
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Gurbani (1319-23)
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Gurbani (1327-1341)
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<blockquote data-quote="curious seeker" data-source="post: 123784" data-attributes="member: 11092"><p>Atheist Ji</p><p></p><p> Well now is my time to apologize for he delay, I had a lot of work done to my apartment and a result I lost my PC and phone for nearly 3 weeks although I was able to post to SPN , (I am addicted<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />) using my daughter's PC when I was able togo to her place and she was not using it.</p><p></p><p> anyway I am back and very happy to see that you did answr me. Frankly, however, I am not too happy with ceratin things in your post. First my frien, the usual Pink unicoirns, yada, yada yada, references are unbecoming a serious discussion. Why is it that Atheists are always attempting to put down Theists? Oh well!</p><p></p><p> Lets get down to he issues. The PINK UNICORN , the SPAGHETTI MONSTER, the COOKIE MONSTER And all he utterly ridiculous attempts at put downs you guys use, are designed to offend. However, they just make you sound silly and ridiculous as you try to seriously make the case for cartoon characters and caricatures being equivalent. IN ANY WAY, to the MAKER of the COSMOS and, laughably, try to address as possibly being real. NUMBER ONE None of this have billions of believers. No one is willing to die for their belief in them, and certainly NO ONE has EVER had a religious experience with any of them , no matter how much you insist otherwise. Experiences with the Creator span the realm of belief and number in the billions, experiences with the Spaghetti Monster and its ilk are non-existent outside the overheated and want to be sarcastic imaginations of atheists that end up making themselves look silly and ridiculous by using such 'analogies'</p><p></p><p> Then I will like to point out that whether or not you care unable to disprove something a 100 % or 1 % (The % does not matter) the fact IS that if you posit something that X does not exist and that statement is something you cannot proof, then you are holding onto a belief not a fact , its an opinion and you, my friend, are a believer </p><p> </p><p>As to the Unicorn or whatever would be put down you attempt to use. No I am NOT agnostic vis a vis them in this context. For I am a convinced Theist Convinced , because to me God is a FACT , just as sure as milky way, electricity and that sea waves crash on the shore. While the flying Spaghetti Monsters et al, are just a lame attempt at a put down. Besides, you cannot equate the two as I demonstrated above. They are not equivalent on the amount of circumstantial evidence alone. To quote Hawkins is meaningless. Has he ever open his mind enough to consider that he might be wrong? NO. Has he ever experience his heart melt at the overwhelming presence of God? No. </p><p></p><p>Has he ever been enveloped by love so other wordly and deep that he has fallen down and been physically unable to get up for hours. Crying for joy until he had no more tears? No. I am no physicist and my supposed IQ would be no match to Genius Dawkins , but not only have I had these experiences with my maker I have personally seen people barely able to read and write undergo similar experiences and have seen, and give witness to their changed lives, let alone mine.</p><p></p><p> Also I am sorry if you do not understand my negatives, but what I am saying is that even if you try to say that a negative cannot be proven, you still are holding to a belief and the fact that you acknowledge that you cannot disprove it, just confirms that you hold your position ON FAITH not fact</p><p></p><p> As a matter of fact , Atheist have Greater Faith than believers. You hold on to a belief that what we see has no creator that is no cause when EVERYTHING that we can see, hear, smell, etc AND TEST has a cause! You hold to your belief in causeless chance evolution even though it would need for it to be true the self creating of everything , the self arrangement of that self creations by laws that were not created yet and thus could not have existed, or must have formed, a priori of the chemical, physical and biological reactions necessary to have them come into being . You would further posit, as other atheists do, that living matter sprang out of dead inert matter (Abiogenesis) when there is no scintilla of scientific evidence that this ever occurred or could occur, and you would need to belief that all these chance random occurrences all fortuitously resulted in an ordered cosmos ruled by laws of physics, chemistry and biology. </p><p></p><p> You lost me at Causation!! Yes your atheistic faith is much greater than mine, for I believed only that God was possible. The rest of my conviction comes from very tangible internal evidence and from the changed lives of believers, in other words from what I feel and what I see. And by the way, implausible means highly unlikely and plausible highly likely so implausible does mean highly unlikely. Which is precisely where atheist, it seems to me, go wrong since it seems that you are positing the existence of a whole reality without a cause and from the evidence of causation we have in every thing we can experience and test, it would seem to me that the probabilities of there being a cause is are so overwheming as to render the opposite view astronomically unlikely, but go figure.</p><p></p><p> No , 'some people' don't have experiences with non-existent monsters and unicorns , mainly because , if they are sane, have no evidence, or experiences with cartoon charcters and make believe monsters. While the believers have evidences, the experiences with deity, the changes in their lives and and others and answered prayer. The day I see the Spaghetti Monster changing lives that is the day I could grant an equivalency between a cartoon character and God, needless to say I am not waiting standing up for that day. NO MY DEAR aTHEIST JI , THE DAY SOME ONE CLAIMS A SPIRITUAL LIFE CHANGING EXPERIENCE WITH LEPRECHAUNS YOU AND ME BOTH WILL CALL THE PADDY WAGON AND SEND HIM OR HER TO THE FUNNY FARM But you cannot send Billions of people to the funny farm and their lives are indeed changed.</p><p></p><p> Man centered refers manmukh (yeah I know is not the best translation of the term) and as you very well know it does not reffer to man the sex but to man as the race of man, which includes women whom, as you also very well know, were treated as equals by all the Gurus and are treated the same way in the SGGS. True others might not be quite so illumined, but hey that is why Sik Dharma is the best<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p> You want good evidence? Is there any better evidence than the one you can experience, by yourself? That was my proposal to you. Put away the put downs, recognize the possibility of God, suspend judgment and seek Him out, honestly, sincerely with a mind free of pre-judgments and stereo types (that is what I mean by open mind)</p><p></p><p> You say that you are an empty well. I said to you what a Jewish Rabbi said many years ago: ''God has springs of water in the dessert!'' You have to give up your God given free will, put it under the Hukam of God's Perfect Will, like a soldier puts himself under the command of his general . Seek not your will but His. submerge yourself in it. THAT IS WHY A MANMUKH CANNOT DO IT, THAT IS WHY IASKED YOU TO BE HONEST AND SINCERE WITH YOURSELF . ONLY YOU CAN KNOW WHAT YOU TRULY TREASURE IN YOUR HEART. ALL I AM ASKING YOU IS TO DO AN EXPERIMENT AND TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. IF YOU DO IT THE RIGHT WAY WITHOUT LYING TO YOURSELF, AND GOD DOES NOT COME TO YOU, THEN YOU WILL KNOW IT IN YOUR HEART AND THAT IS IT. OF COURSE, I WILL NEVER BELIEVE IT. BUT YOU, ON THE OTHER HAND, WILL NOT NEED MY APPROVAL YOU WILL KNOW , ABSOLUTELY KNOW, THERE IS NO GOD</p><p></p><p> So what about it? I mean I am not going to keep answering you point by point, It does not matter what matters is that you are a son of the living God, the Wahe Guru, or you are not and there is only one way YOU , not me BUT YOU can find out for yourself.</p><p></p><p> May you be true to yourself!</p><p></p><p> Curious</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="curious seeker, post: 123784, member: 11092"] Atheist Ji Well now is my time to apologize for he delay, I had a lot of work done to my apartment and a result I lost my PC and phone for nearly 3 weeks although I was able to post to SPN , (I am addicted:-)) using my daughter's PC when I was able togo to her place and she was not using it. anyway I am back and very happy to see that you did answr me. Frankly, however, I am not too happy with ceratin things in your post. First my frien, the usual Pink unicoirns, yada, yada yada, references are unbecoming a serious discussion. Why is it that Atheists are always attempting to put down Theists? Oh well! Lets get down to he issues. The PINK UNICORN , the SPAGHETTI MONSTER, the COOKIE MONSTER And all he utterly ridiculous attempts at put downs you guys use, are designed to offend. However, they just make you sound silly and ridiculous as you try to seriously make the case for cartoon characters and caricatures being equivalent. IN ANY WAY, to the MAKER of the COSMOS and, laughably, try to address as possibly being real. NUMBER ONE None of this have billions of believers. No one is willing to die for their belief in them, and certainly NO ONE has EVER had a religious experience with any of them , no matter how much you insist otherwise. Experiences with the Creator span the realm of belief and number in the billions, experiences with the Spaghetti Monster and its ilk are non-existent outside the overheated and want to be sarcastic imaginations of atheists that end up making themselves look silly and ridiculous by using such 'analogies' Then I will like to point out that whether or not you care unable to disprove something a 100 % or 1 % (The % does not matter) the fact IS that if you posit something that X does not exist and that statement is something you cannot proof, then you are holding onto a belief not a fact , its an opinion and you, my friend, are a believer As to the Unicorn or whatever would be put down you attempt to use. No I am NOT agnostic vis a vis them in this context. For I am a convinced Theist Convinced , because to me God is a FACT , just as sure as milky way, electricity and that sea waves crash on the shore. While the flying Spaghetti Monsters et al, are just a lame attempt at a put down. Besides, you cannot equate the two as I demonstrated above. They are not equivalent on the amount of circumstantial evidence alone. To quote Hawkins is meaningless. Has he ever open his mind enough to consider that he might be wrong? NO. Has he ever experience his heart melt at the overwhelming presence of God? No. Has he ever been enveloped by love so other wordly and deep that he has fallen down and been physically unable to get up for hours. Crying for joy until he had no more tears? No. I am no physicist and my supposed IQ would be no match to Genius Dawkins , but not only have I had these experiences with my maker I have personally seen people barely able to read and write undergo similar experiences and have seen, and give witness to their changed lives, let alone mine. Also I am sorry if you do not understand my negatives, but what I am saying is that even if you try to say that a negative cannot be proven, you still are holding to a belief and the fact that you acknowledge that you cannot disprove it, just confirms that you hold your position ON FAITH not fact As a matter of fact , Atheist have Greater Faith than believers. You hold on to a belief that what we see has no creator that is no cause when EVERYTHING that we can see, hear, smell, etc AND TEST has a cause! You hold to your belief in causeless chance evolution even though it would need for it to be true the self creating of everything , the self arrangement of that self creations by laws that were not created yet and thus could not have existed, or must have formed, a priori of the chemical, physical and biological reactions necessary to have them come into being . You would further posit, as other atheists do, that living matter sprang out of dead inert matter (Abiogenesis) when there is no scintilla of scientific evidence that this ever occurred or could occur, and you would need to belief that all these chance random occurrences all fortuitously resulted in an ordered cosmos ruled by laws of physics, chemistry and biology. You lost me at Causation!! Yes your atheistic faith is much greater than mine, for I believed only that God was possible. The rest of my conviction comes from very tangible internal evidence and from the changed lives of believers, in other words from what I feel and what I see. And by the way, implausible means highly unlikely and plausible highly likely so implausible does mean highly unlikely. Which is precisely where atheist, it seems to me, go wrong since it seems that you are positing the existence of a whole reality without a cause and from the evidence of causation we have in every thing we can experience and test, it would seem to me that the probabilities of there being a cause is are so overwheming as to render the opposite view astronomically unlikely, but go figure. No , 'some people' don't have experiences with non-existent monsters and unicorns , mainly because , if they are sane, have no evidence, or experiences with cartoon charcters and make believe monsters. While the believers have evidences, the experiences with deity, the changes in their lives and and others and answered prayer. The day I see the Spaghetti Monster changing lives that is the day I could grant an equivalency between a cartoon character and God, needless to say I am not waiting standing up for that day. NO MY DEAR aTHEIST JI , THE DAY SOME ONE CLAIMS A SPIRITUAL LIFE CHANGING EXPERIENCE WITH LEPRECHAUNS YOU AND ME BOTH WILL CALL THE PADDY WAGON AND SEND HIM OR HER TO THE FUNNY FARM But you cannot send Billions of people to the funny farm and their lives are indeed changed. Man centered refers manmukh (yeah I know is not the best translation of the term) and as you very well know it does not reffer to man the sex but to man as the race of man, which includes women whom, as you also very well know, were treated as equals by all the Gurus and are treated the same way in the SGGS. True others might not be quite so illumined, but hey that is why Sik Dharma is the best:-) You want good evidence? Is there any better evidence than the one you can experience, by yourself? That was my proposal to you. Put away the put downs, recognize the possibility of God, suspend judgment and seek Him out, honestly, sincerely with a mind free of pre-judgments and stereo types (that is what I mean by open mind) You say that you are an empty well. I said to you what a Jewish Rabbi said many years ago: ''God has springs of water in the dessert!'' You have to give up your God given free will, put it under the Hukam of God's Perfect Will, like a soldier puts himself under the command of his general . Seek not your will but His. submerge yourself in it. THAT IS WHY A MANMUKH CANNOT DO IT, THAT IS WHY IASKED YOU TO BE HONEST AND SINCERE WITH YOURSELF . ONLY YOU CAN KNOW WHAT YOU TRULY TREASURE IN YOUR HEART. ALL I AM ASKING YOU IS TO DO AN EXPERIMENT AND TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. IF YOU DO IT THE RIGHT WAY WITHOUT LYING TO YOURSELF, AND GOD DOES NOT COME TO YOU, THEN YOU WILL KNOW IT IN YOUR HEART AND THAT IS IT. OF COURSE, I WILL NEVER BELIEVE IT. BUT YOU, ON THE OTHER HAND, WILL NOT NEED MY APPROVAL YOU WILL KNOW , ABSOLUTELY KNOW, THERE IS NO GOD So what about it? I mean I am not going to keep answering you point by point, It does not matter what matters is that you are a son of the living God, the Wahe Guru, or you are not and there is only one way YOU , not me BUT YOU can find out for yourself. May you be true to yourself! Curious [/QUOTE]
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