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<blockquote data-quote="spnadmin" data-source="post: 128834" data-attributes="member: 35"><p>Realization in this lifetime? Did not mean to leave you hanging with my remark about Japji Sahib. Here are 3 paurees where your concerns are addressed. There are other.</p><p></p><p><table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="98%"><tbody><tr><td class="rmenuheader"><span style="color: red"> 1 <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/main.php?book=sri_guru_granth_sahib&action=pagebypage&page=3#" target="_blank">Jap</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/gurus/gurunanak.htm" target="_blank">Guru Nanak Dev</a> </span> </p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਸਤੁ ਸੰਤੋਖੁ ਗਿਆਨੁ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">suniai sath santhokh giaan ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">Listening-truth, contentment and spiritual wisdom.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਅਠਸਠਿ ਕਾ ਇਸਨਾਨੁ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">suniai athasath kaa eisanaan ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Listening-take your cleansing bath at the sixty-eight places of pilgrimage.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਪੜਿ ਪੜਿ ਪਾਵਹਿ ਮਾਨੁ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">suniai parr parr paavehi maan ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">Listening-reading and reciting, honor is obtained.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਲਾਗੈ ਸਹਜਿ ਧਿਆਨੁ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">suniai laagai sehaj dhhiaan ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Listening-intuitively grasp the essence of meditation.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਨਾਨਕ ਭਗਤਾ ਸਦਾ ਵਿਗਾਸੁ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">naanak bhagathaa sadhaa vigaas ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">O Nanak, the devotees are forever in bliss.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਦੂਖ ਪਾਪ ਕਾ ਨਾਸੁ ॥੧੦॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">suniai dhookh paap kaa naas ||10||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Listening-pain and sin are erased. ||10||</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਸਰਾ ਗੁਣਾ ਕੇ ਗਾਹ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">suniai saraa gunaa kae gaah ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">Listening-dive deep into the ocean of virtue.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਸੇਖ ਪੀਰ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">suniai saekh peer paathisaah ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Listening-the Shaykhs, religious scholars, spiritual teachers and emperors.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਅੰਧੇ ਪਾਵਹਿ ਰਾਹੁ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">suniai andhhae paavehi raahu ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">Listening-even the blind find the Path.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਹਾਥ ਹੋਵੈ ਅਸਗਾਹੁ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">suniai haathh hovai asagaahu ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Listening-the Unreachable comes within your grasp.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਨਾਨਕ ਭਗਤਾ ਸਦਾ ਵਿਗਾਸੁ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">naanak bhagathaa sadhaa vigaas ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">O Nanak, the devotees are forever in bliss.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਦੂਖ ਪਾਪ ਕਾ ਨਾਸੁ ॥੧੧॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">suniai dhookh paap kaa naas ||11||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Listening-pain and sin are erased. ||11||</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਮੰਨੇ ਕੀ ਗਤਿ ਕਹੀ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">mannae kee gath kehee n jaae ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">The state of the faithful cannot be described.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਜੇ ਕੋ ਕਹੈ ਪਿਛੈ ਪਛੁਤਾਇ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">jae ko kehai pishhai pashhuthaae ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">One who tries to describe this shall regret the attempt.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਕਾਗਦਿ ਕਲਮ ਨ ਲਿਖਣਹਾਰੁ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">kaagadh kalam n likhanehaar ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">No paper, no pen, no scribe</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"><span style="color: red"><a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/gurus/gurunanak.htm" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/gurus/gurunanak.htm</a> </span> </p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਮੰਨੇ ਕਾ ਬਹਿ ਕਰਨਿ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">mannae kaa behi karan veechaar ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">can record the state of the faithful.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਐਸਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">aisaa naam niranjan hoe ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">Such is the Name of the Immaculate Lord.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਜੇ ਕੋ ਮੰਨਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਮਨਿ ਕੋਇ ॥੧੨॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">jae ko mann jaanai man koe ||12||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Only one who has faith comes to know such a state of mind. ||12||</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਮੰਨੈ ਸੁਰਤਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਮਨਿ ਬੁਧਿ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">mannai surath hovai man budhh ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">The faithful have intuitive awareness and intelligence.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਮੰਨੈ ਸਗਲ ਭਵਣ ਕੀ ਸੁਧਿ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">mannai sagal bhavan kee sudhh ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">The faithful know about all worlds and realms.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਮੰਨੈ ਮੁਹਿ ਚੋਟਾ ਨਾ ਖਾਇ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">mannai muhi chottaa naa khaae ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">The faithful shall never be struck across the face.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਮੰਨੈ ਜਮ ਕੈ ਸਾਥਿ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">mannai jam kai saathh n jaae ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">The faithful do not have to go with the Messenger of Death.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਐਸਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">aisaa naam niranjan hoe ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">Such is the Name of the Immaculate Lord.</td></tr></tbody></table></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spnadmin, post: 128834, member: 35"] Realization in this lifetime? Did not mean to leave you hanging with my remark about Japji Sahib. Here are 3 paurees where your concerns are addressed. There are other. <table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="98%"><tbody><tr><td class="rmenuheader">[COLOR=red] 1 [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/main.php?book=sri_guru_granth_sahib&action=pagebypage&page=3#"]Jap[/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/gurus/gurunanak.htm"]Guru Nanak Dev[/URL] [/COLOR] </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਸਤੁ ਸੰਤੋਖੁ ਗਿਆਨੁ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">suniai sath santhokh giaan || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">Listening-truth, contentment and spiritual wisdom. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਅਠਸਠਿ ਕਾ ਇਸਨਾਨੁ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">suniai athasath kaa eisanaan || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Listening-take your cleansing bath at the sixty-eight places of pilgrimage. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਪੜਿ ਪੜਿ ਪਾਵਹਿ ਮਾਨੁ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">suniai parr parr paavehi maan || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">Listening-reading and reciting, honor is obtained. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਲਾਗੈ ਸਹਜਿ ਧਿਆਨੁ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">suniai laagai sehaj dhhiaan || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Listening-intuitively grasp the essence of meditation. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਨਾਨਕ ਭਗਤਾ ਸਦਾ ਵਿਗਾਸੁ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">naanak bhagathaa sadhaa vigaas || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">O Nanak, the devotees are forever in bliss. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਦੂਖ ਪਾਪ ਕਾ ਨਾਸੁ ॥੧੦॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">suniai dhookh paap kaa naas ||10|| </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Listening-pain and sin are erased. ||10|| </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਸਰਾ ਗੁਣਾ ਕੇ ਗਾਹ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">suniai saraa gunaa kae gaah || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">Listening-dive deep into the ocean of virtue. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਸੇਖ ਪੀਰ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">suniai saekh peer paathisaah || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Listening-the Shaykhs, religious scholars, spiritual teachers and emperors. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਅੰਧੇ ਪਾਵਹਿ ਰਾਹੁ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">suniai andhhae paavehi raahu || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">Listening-even the blind find the Path. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਹਾਥ ਹੋਵੈ ਅਸਗਾਹੁ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">suniai haathh hovai asagaahu || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Listening-the Unreachable comes within your grasp. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਨਾਨਕ ਭਗਤਾ ਸਦਾ ਵਿਗਾਸੁ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">naanak bhagathaa sadhaa vigaas || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">O Nanak, the devotees are forever in bliss. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਸੁਣਿਐ ਦੂਖ ਪਾਪ ਕਾ ਨਾਸੁ ॥੧੧॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">suniai dhookh paap kaa naas ||11|| </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Listening-pain and sin are erased. ||11|| </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਮੰਨੇ ਕੀ ਗਤਿ ਕਹੀ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">mannae kee gath kehee n jaae || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">The state of the faithful cannot be described. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਜੇ ਕੋ ਕਹੈ ਪਿਛੈ ਪਛੁਤਾਇ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">jae ko kehai pishhai pashhuthaae || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">One who tries to describe this shall regret the attempt. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਕਾਗਦਿ ਕਲਮ ਨ ਲਿਖਣਹਾਰੁ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">kaagadh kalam n likhanehaar || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">No paper, no pen, no scribe </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader">[COLOR=red][URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/gurus/gurunanak.htm"][/URL] [/COLOR] </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਮੰਨੇ ਕਾ ਬਹਿ ਕਰਨਿ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">mannae kaa behi karan veechaar || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">can record the state of the faithful. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਐਸਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">aisaa naam niranjan hoe || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">Such is the Name of the Immaculate Lord. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਜੇ ਕੋ ਮੰਨਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਮਨਿ ਕੋਇ ॥੧੨॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">jae ko mann jaanai man koe ||12|| </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Only one who has faith comes to know such a state of mind. ||12|| </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਮੰਨੈ ਸੁਰਤਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਮਨਿ ਬੁਧਿ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">mannai surath hovai man budhh || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">The faithful have intuitive awareness and intelligence. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਮੰਨੈ ਸਗਲ ਭਵਣ ਕੀ ਸੁਧਿ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">mannai sagal bhavan kee sudhh || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">The faithful know about all worlds and realms. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਮੰਨੈ ਮੁਹਿ ਚੋਟਾ ਨਾ ਖਾਇ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">mannai muhi chottaa naa khaae || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">The faithful shall never be struck across the face. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਮੰਨੈ ਜਮ ਕੈ ਸਾਥਿ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">mannai jam kai saathh n jaae || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">The faithful do not have to go with the Messenger of Death. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਐਸਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">aisaa naam niranjan hoe || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">Such is the Name of the Immaculate Lord.</td></tr></tbody></table> [/QUOTE]
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