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<blockquote data-quote="spnadmin" data-source="post: 141262" data-attributes="member: 35"><p>Chamkaur brar ji</p><p></p><p>I think this is one of the shabads you refer to above. It is good to have it in front of us so that we can understand your explanation better, and see how indeed it does come from the shabad. This is also interesting because the rehao line is the very first -- unusual but very emphatic. Ang 874/5</p><p></p><p>ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ ਗੋਂਡ ॥</p><p>bilaaval gonadd ||</p><p>Bilaaval Gond:</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>ਆਜੁ ਨਾਮੇ ਬੀਠਲੁ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਮੂਰਖ ਕੋ ਸਮਝਾਊ ਰੇ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥</strong></p><p><strong>aaj naamae beethal dhaekhiaa moorakh ko samajhaaoo rae || rehaao ||</strong></p><p><strong>Today, Naam Dayv saw the Lord, and so I will instruct the ignorant. ||Pause||</strong></p><p></p><p>ਪਾਂਡੇ ਤੁਮਰੀ ਗਾਇਤ੍ਰੀ ਲੋਧੇ ਕਾ ਖੇਤੁ ਖਾਤੀ ਥੀ ॥</p><p>paanddae thumaree gaaeithree lodhhae kaa khaeth khaathee thhee ||</p><p>O Pandit, O religious scholar, your Gayatri was grazing in the fields.</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਲੈ ਕਰਿ ਠੇਗਾ ਟਗਰੀ ਤੋਰੀ ਲਾਂਗਤ ਲਾਂਗਤ ਜਾਤੀ ਥੀ ॥੧॥</p><p>lai kar thaegaa ttagaree thoree laangath laangath jaathee thhee ||1||</p><p>Taking a stick, the farmer broke its leg, and now it walks with a limp. ||1||</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਪਾਂਡੇ ਤੁਮਰਾ ਮਹਾਦੇਉ ਧਉਲੇ ਬਲਦ ਚੜਿਆ ਆਵਤੁ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਥਾ ॥</p><p>paanddae thumaraa mehaadhaeo dhhoulae baladh charriaa aavath dhaekhiaa thhaa ||</p><p>O Pandit, I saw your great god Shiva, riding along on a white bull.</p><p></p><p>ਮੋਦੀ ਕੇ ਘਰ ਖਾਣਾ ਪਾਕਾ ਵਾ ਕਾ ਲੜਕਾ ਮਾਰਿਆ ਥਾ ॥੨॥</p><p>modhee kae ghar khaanaa paakaa vaa kaa larrakaa maariaa thhaa ||2||</p><p>In the merchant's house, a banquet was prepared for him - he killed the merchant's son. ||2||</p><p></p><p>ਪਾਂਡੇ ਤੁਮਰਾ ਰਾਮਚੰਦੁ ਸੋ ਭੀ ਆਵਤੁ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਥਾ ॥</p><p>paanddae thumaraa raamachandh so bhee aavath dhaekhiaa thhaa ||</p><p>O Pandit, I saw your Raam Chand coming too</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਰਾਵਨ ਸੇਤੀ ਸਰਬਰ ਹੋਈ ਘਰ ਕੀ ਜੋਇ ਗਵਾਈ ਥੀ ॥੩॥</p><p>raavan saethee sarabar hoee ghar kee joe gavaaee thhee ||3||</p><p>he lost his wife, fighting a war against Raawan. ||3||</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਹਿੰਦੂ ਅੰਨ੍ਹਾ ਤੁਰਕੂ ਕਾਣਾ ॥</p><p>hindhoo annhaa thurakoo kaanaa ||</p><p>The Hindu is sightless; the Muslim has only one eye.</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਦੁਹਾਂ ਤੇ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਸਿਆਣਾ ॥</p><p>dhuhaan thae giaanee siaanaa ||</p><p>The spiritual teacher is wiser than both of them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਹਿੰਦੂ ਪੂਜੈ ਦੇਹੁਰਾ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਮਸੀਤਿ ॥</p><p>hindhoo poojai dhaehuraa musalamaan maseeth ||</p><p>The Hindu worships at the temple, the Muslim at the mosque.</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਨਾਮੇ ਸੋਈ ਸੇਵਿਆ ਜਹ ਦੇਹੁਰਾ ਨ ਮਸੀਤਿ ॥੪॥੩॥੭॥</p><p>naamae soee saeviaa jeh dhaehuraa n maseeth ||4||3||7||</p><p>Naam Dayv serves that Lord, who is not limited to either the temple or the mosque. ||4||3||7||</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spnadmin, post: 141262, member: 35"] Chamkaur brar ji I think this is one of the shabads you refer to above. It is good to have it in front of us so that we can understand your explanation better, and see how indeed it does come from the shabad. This is also interesting because the rehao line is the very first -- unusual but very emphatic. Ang 874/5 ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ ਗੋਂਡ ॥ bilaaval gonadd || Bilaaval Gond: [B]ਆਜੁ ਨਾਮੇ ਬੀਠਲੁ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਮੂਰਖ ਕੋ ਸਮਝਾਊ ਰੇ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ aaj naamae beethal dhaekhiaa moorakh ko samajhaaoo rae || rehaao || Today, Naam Dayv saw the Lord, and so I will instruct the ignorant. ||Pause||[/B] ਪਾਂਡੇ ਤੁਮਰੀ ਗਾਇਤ੍ਰੀ ਲੋਧੇ ਕਾ ਖੇਤੁ ਖਾਤੀ ਥੀ ॥ paanddae thumaree gaaeithree lodhhae kaa khaeth khaathee thhee || O Pandit, O religious scholar, your Gayatri was grazing in the fields. ਲੈ ਕਰਿ ਠੇਗਾ ਟਗਰੀ ਤੋਰੀ ਲਾਂਗਤ ਲਾਂਗਤ ਜਾਤੀ ਥੀ ॥੧॥ lai kar thaegaa ttagaree thoree laangath laangath jaathee thhee ||1|| Taking a stick, the farmer broke its leg, and now it walks with a limp. ||1|| ਪਾਂਡੇ ਤੁਮਰਾ ਮਹਾਦੇਉ ਧਉਲੇ ਬਲਦ ਚੜਿਆ ਆਵਤੁ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਥਾ ॥ paanddae thumaraa mehaadhaeo dhhoulae baladh charriaa aavath dhaekhiaa thhaa || O Pandit, I saw your great god Shiva, riding along on a white bull. ਮੋਦੀ ਕੇ ਘਰ ਖਾਣਾ ਪਾਕਾ ਵਾ ਕਾ ਲੜਕਾ ਮਾਰਿਆ ਥਾ ॥੨॥ modhee kae ghar khaanaa paakaa vaa kaa larrakaa maariaa thhaa ||2|| In the merchant's house, a banquet was prepared for him - he killed the merchant's son. ||2|| ਪਾਂਡੇ ਤੁਮਰਾ ਰਾਮਚੰਦੁ ਸੋ ਭੀ ਆਵਤੁ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਥਾ ॥ paanddae thumaraa raamachandh so bhee aavath dhaekhiaa thhaa || O Pandit, I saw your Raam Chand coming too ਰਾਵਨ ਸੇਤੀ ਸਰਬਰ ਹੋਈ ਘਰ ਕੀ ਜੋਇ ਗਵਾਈ ਥੀ ॥੩॥ raavan saethee sarabar hoee ghar kee joe gavaaee thhee ||3|| he lost his wife, fighting a war against Raawan. ||3|| ਹਿੰਦੂ ਅੰਨ੍ਹਾ ਤੁਰਕੂ ਕਾਣਾ ॥ hindhoo annhaa thurakoo kaanaa || The Hindu is sightless; the Muslim has only one eye. ਦੁਹਾਂ ਤੇ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਸਿਆਣਾ ॥ dhuhaan thae giaanee siaanaa || The spiritual teacher is wiser than both of them. ਹਿੰਦੂ ਪੂਜੈ ਦੇਹੁਰਾ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਮਸੀਤਿ ॥ hindhoo poojai dhaehuraa musalamaan maseeth || The Hindu worships at the temple, the Muslim at the mosque. ਨਾਮੇ ਸੋਈ ਸੇਵਿਆ ਜਹ ਦੇਹੁਰਾ ਨ ਮਸੀਤਿ ॥੪॥੩॥੭॥ naamae soee saeviaa jeh dhaehuraa n maseeth ||4||3||7|| Naam Dayv serves that Lord, who is not limited to either the temple or the mosque. ||4||3||7|| [/QUOTE]
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