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Gurbani (151-185)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
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Gurbani (537-556)
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Gurbani (557-564)
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Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
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Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
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Suchajee (762)
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Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
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Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
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Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
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Sehskritee Mahala 5
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Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
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Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
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Is Ardas Offered To Shri Guru Granth Sahib, Or To God?
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<blockquote data-quote="Gyani Jarnail Singh" data-source="post: 94775" data-attributes="member: 189"><p>Tejwant Ji.</p><p>Gurfateh.</p><p></p><p>You have raised many pertinent points.</p><p>Ardass is in SGGS 303 times....shows this is a very important aspect of Gurmatt and Gurmatt Rehnni..everyday life of a Gursikh.</p><p></p><p>1. Each "Ardass Shabad" in the SGGS is simply a prayer to the ALmighty Creator.. and the Vast majority of these shabds are..... of THANKS.... SHUKRANA...by the HUMBLE GURUS...a lesson in humility we should emulate....</p><p></p><p>In contrast our typical ardass in the Gurdwara is mostly of REQUESTS....some one wants a son..another wants to pass his exam...one wants to win his court case..another wnats success at the Tender Exercise...a lot want Good Health....some more want a lot of wealth...and the LIST of demands/wants/requests/ attached to the snangtee ardass is so boring and long....people begin to look here and there wondering when its all going to finally end...and then begins the long boring list of "donations" the 1.25 becomes BEAANT MAYA ( Uncountable amount !!...even if the Decimal point is removed..the amount is hardly "uncountable !!!)..the gentleman who paid for the marble tiles..the lady who paid for all the atta for the langgar...the Krorpatee who sponsored the renovation of the toilets...etc etc etc.....and the gentleman who ostensibly "donated" the UNCOUNTABLY HUGE AMOUNT of 1.25 wants the GURU to give him in return KHAZANNEH BHARPOOR KARNEH..Fill his treasure chests/saftey boxes and bank accounts to overflowing !!! in other words he bought a Lottery Ticket for 1.25 which promises a payout of MILLIONS..and He wants GURU to remember that !! and PAY UP...or else..( I wont donate the 1.25 anymore ??) .</p><p></p><p>2. Secondly even in the wording sense... the ARDASS that we use today is very very different from the Ardass shown in the SGGS. It begisn with the word Bhaugati...which is stretched to mean CREATOR..when in the SGGS the word BHAGAUTI is different.</p><p>This ardass is more of a "HISTORY" of the SIKH NATION...names of the Sikh gurus... HERE I would like to point out that the Firts pauree of the Ardass is a superb poem that EXHIBITS the Das GURU - ONE JYOT Principle very clearly and simply. The WORD "GURU" is attached ONLY to the FIRST GURU - NANAK...then the Word "GUR" is used as a LINK..between GURU NANAK....and the following.....Angad ....( GUR TE ).....Amardass..Ramdass..and so on. None of the GURUS is then addressed as GURU. This means that AAD GURU..is GURU NANAK..who then passed on His GURGADEE JYOT to Angad..to Amardass..to Ramdass..Arjun..Hargobind..Har rai..Har Kishan and Teg bahadur...The Name of Guru Gobind Singh ji is put in by the Panth. This is a MAJOR point in GURMATT PHILOSOPHY.</p><p>A lot of people get offended that the word "GURU" is not attached to the second guru onwards..and some DO attach it by saying..GURU TEG BAHADUR Simreeah..on their OWN - which is WRONG. Some are offended that the names of the Gurus are not "complete"..no "DEV" after Arjun..for example ( that might be proof that the word dev is not really attached to either Guru Angad Ji or Guru arjun Ji as well)</p><p>But whats clear is that the ardass we do today as part of the Nitnem is man made by the Panth and is a microcosm of our History. Its one sure fire way of having a improptu HISTORY LESSON everytime an ocassion for ardass arises....thus OUR Glorious HISTORY can never be forgotten even for a Day.:welcome:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gyani Jarnail Singh, post: 94775, member: 189"] Tejwant Ji. Gurfateh. You have raised many pertinent points. Ardass is in SGGS 303 times....shows this is a very important aspect of Gurmatt and Gurmatt Rehnni..everyday life of a Gursikh. 1. Each "Ardass Shabad" in the SGGS is simply a prayer to the ALmighty Creator.. and the Vast majority of these shabds are..... of THANKS.... SHUKRANA...by the HUMBLE GURUS...a lesson in humility we should emulate.... In contrast our typical ardass in the Gurdwara is mostly of REQUESTS....some one wants a son..another wants to pass his exam...one wants to win his court case..another wnats success at the Tender Exercise...a lot want Good Health....some more want a lot of wealth...and the LIST of demands/wants/requests/ attached to the snangtee ardass is so boring and long....people begin to look here and there wondering when its all going to finally end...and then begins the long boring list of "donations" the 1.25 becomes BEAANT MAYA ( Uncountable amount !!...even if the Decimal point is removed..the amount is hardly "uncountable !!!)..the gentleman who paid for the marble tiles..the lady who paid for all the atta for the langgar...the Krorpatee who sponsored the renovation of the toilets...etc etc etc.....and the gentleman who ostensibly "donated" the UNCOUNTABLY HUGE AMOUNT of 1.25 wants the GURU to give him in return KHAZANNEH BHARPOOR KARNEH..Fill his treasure chests/saftey boxes and bank accounts to overflowing !!! in other words he bought a Lottery Ticket for 1.25 which promises a payout of MILLIONS..and He wants GURU to remember that !! and PAY UP...or else..( I wont donate the 1.25 anymore ??) . 2. Secondly even in the wording sense... the ARDASS that we use today is very very different from the Ardass shown in the SGGS. It begisn with the word Bhaugati...which is stretched to mean CREATOR..when in the SGGS the word BHAGAUTI is different. This ardass is more of a "HISTORY" of the SIKH NATION...names of the Sikh gurus... HERE I would like to point out that the Firts pauree of the Ardass is a superb poem that EXHIBITS the Das GURU - ONE JYOT Principle very clearly and simply. The WORD "GURU" is attached ONLY to the FIRST GURU - NANAK...then the Word "GUR" is used as a LINK..between GURU NANAK....and the following.....Angad ....( GUR TE ).....Amardass..Ramdass..and so on. None of the GURUS is then addressed as GURU. This means that AAD GURU..is GURU NANAK..who then passed on His GURGADEE JYOT to Angad..to Amardass..to Ramdass..Arjun..Hargobind..Har rai..Har Kishan and Teg bahadur...The Name of Guru Gobind Singh ji is put in by the Panth. This is a MAJOR point in GURMATT PHILOSOPHY. A lot of people get offended that the word "GURU" is not attached to the second guru onwards..and some DO attach it by saying..GURU TEG BAHADUR Simreeah..on their OWN - which is WRONG. Some are offended that the names of the Gurus are not "complete"..no "DEV" after Arjun..for example ( that might be proof that the word dev is not really attached to either Guru Angad Ji or Guru arjun Ji as well) But whats clear is that the ardass we do today as part of the Nitnem is man made by the Panth and is a microcosm of our History. Its one sure fire way of having a improptu HISTORY LESSON everytime an ocassion for ardass arises....thus OUR Glorious HISTORY can never be forgotten even for a Day.:welcome: [/QUOTE]
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