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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="anders" data-source="post: 1210" data-attributes="member: 238"><p>Sat Sri Akal Ji, ThinkingOne,</p><p></p><p>This seems to be the origin of the quote from Asian Wall Street Journal: <a href="http://www.sas.upenn.edu/casi/reports/PanikkarPaper112000.htm" target="_blank">http://www.sas.upenn.edu/casi/reports/PanikkarPaper112000.htm</a></p><p>The article is mainly concerned with the political re-writing of school books.</p><p></p><p>From <a href="http://www.ambedkar.org/News/Outsiderasenemy.htm:" target="_blank">http://www.ambedkar.org/News/Outsiderasenemy.htm:</a> "... P.N. Oak, whose main contribution is the identification of every medieval monument as a Hindu structure. Incidentally, Oak recently approached the Supreme Court of India with a request to declare the Taj Mahal a Hindu building. The Supreme Court has indeed dismissed the plea stating that Oak seems to have 'a bee in his bonnet'."</p><p></p><p>One of the world's currently foremost Sanskrit scholars, Prof. Michael Witzel at the Department of Sanskrit & Indian Studies, Harvard University, often uses Mr. Oak' name as a simile when real stupid things are proposed: <a href="http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/EJVS-7-2.htm" target="_blank">http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/EJVS-7-2.htm</a> "Free-form etymologizing worthy of the Indian nationalist P. N. Oak lets Talageri interpret the names of persons, tribes, and local animals as "Aryan" or "Eastern" (as his model requires) when the linguistic evidence points squarely elsewhere -- often to pre-Indo-Aryan substrates. Talageri's embarrassing lack of scholarly linguistic and philological skills ..."</p><p></p><p>From <a href="http://www.www.secularindia.net/article6.html" target="_blank">http://www.www.secularindia.net/article6.html</a>, I quote: "If the BJP is to have its way, we would soon be competing with Pakistan in framing the utmost possible parochial view of the past.Just as Buddhism and Guru Nanak are in effect excluded from the cultural legacy of Pakistan, Islam and Kabir will soon be marched out of our heritage. For nearly a century, since Tagore so saw it, we have been accustomed to see our past as a composite one, integrating many streams creatively. Such as attitude is anathema to the RSS. It will be noticed that words like “composite culture,” once so much a part of Delhi officialese, are now politically incorrect in the corridors of the Union Ministries of Human Resource Development and Culture, and of the University Grants Commission. When Kabir died, both Hindus and Muslims came to claim him. For official Delhi of today, this is, of course, unthinkable." (written in 2001)</p><p></p><p>More from the political comrades of mr. Oak: "The BJP has gone to the extent of saying that the history taught to school children should assert the historicity of the Ramayana and the Mahabharata. The party's view is that Mr. P.N. Oak, the "historian'' who claims the Taj Mahal is a "Hindu monument'' should be given as much weightage as Ms. Romila Thapar or Mr. Irfan Habib." - Because of Internet trouble, I can't retrieve that link now.</p><p></p><p>I argue mainly from the point of linguistics, because Mr. Oak's ventures into etynmology violate every priciple of that science. I hope that I have been able to demonstrate how far from reality his claims are.</p><p></p><p>Just you wait. I won't be surprised if he one day will claim that the Harmandir Sahib is a Hindu temple, because of the name Hari occurring in its name, or that Guru Har Krishan Ji must have been a Hindu worshipper, because his name really is Hare Krishna.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="anders, post: 1210, member: 238"] Sat Sri Akal Ji, ThinkingOne, This seems to be the origin of the quote from Asian Wall Street Journal: [url]http://www.sas.upenn.edu/casi/reports/PanikkarPaper112000.htm[/url] The article is mainly concerned with the political re-writing of school books. From [url]http://www.ambedkar.org/News/Outsiderasenemy.htm:[/url] "... P.N. Oak, whose main contribution is the identification of every medieval monument as a Hindu structure. Incidentally, Oak recently approached the Supreme Court of India with a request to declare the Taj Mahal a Hindu building. The Supreme Court has indeed dismissed the plea stating that Oak seems to have 'a bee in his bonnet'." One of the world's currently foremost Sanskrit scholars, Prof. Michael Witzel at the Department of Sanskrit & Indian Studies, Harvard University, often uses Mr. Oak' name as a simile when real stupid things are proposed: [url]http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/EJVS-7-2.htm[/url] "Free-form etymologizing worthy of the Indian nationalist P. N. Oak lets Talageri interpret the names of persons, tribes, and local animals as "Aryan" or "Eastern" (as his model requires) when the linguistic evidence points squarely elsewhere -- often to pre-Indo-Aryan substrates. Talageri's embarrassing lack of scholarly linguistic and philological skills ..." From [url]http://www.www.secularindia.net/article6.html[/url], I quote: "If the BJP is to have its way, we would soon be competing with Pakistan in framing the utmost possible parochial view of the past.Just as Buddhism and Guru Nanak are in effect excluded from the cultural legacy of Pakistan, Islam and Kabir will soon be marched out of our heritage. For nearly a century, since Tagore so saw it, we have been accustomed to see our past as a composite one, integrating many streams creatively. Such as attitude is anathema to the RSS. It will be noticed that words like “composite culture,” once so much a part of Delhi officialese, are now politically incorrect in the corridors of the Union Ministries of Human Resource Development and Culture, and of the University Grants Commission. When Kabir died, both Hindus and Muslims came to claim him. For official Delhi of today, this is, of course, unthinkable." (written in 2001) More from the political comrades of mr. Oak: "The BJP has gone to the extent of saying that the history taught to school children should assert the historicity of the Ramayana and the Mahabharata. The party's view is that Mr. P.N. Oak, the "historian'' who claims the Taj Mahal is a "Hindu monument'' should be given as much weightage as Ms. Romila Thapar or Mr. Irfan Habib." - Because of Internet trouble, I can't retrieve that link now. I argue mainly from the point of linguistics, because Mr. Oak's ventures into etynmology violate every priciple of that science. I hope that I have been able to demonstrate how far from reality his claims are. Just you wait. I won't be surprised if he one day will claim that the Harmandir Sahib is a Hindu temple, because of the name Hari occurring in its name, or that Guru Har Krishan Ji must have been a Hindu worshipper, because his name really is Hare Krishna. [/QUOTE]
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