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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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I'm At The Verge Of Losing My Faith In Sikhi. Maybe Already Have. I Need Advice.
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<blockquote data-quote="Rajveer_97" data-source="post: 216446" data-attributes="member: 21285"><p>Good questions, thanks for them and I really should think about them. Reflecting on them I think I got way ahead of my game. I don't have any Sikh friends or company, unfortunately, most of my friends are devout Christians, Muslims and atheists and these discussions are the kind we have a lot. So far I had held pretty well on my own, but now it seems like the debates started to wear me down and I let doubt get to me. For these 2 years I was pretty ardent in my belief. One of the things that really hit me was when someone asked: Would you really still be a Sikh if you weren't born into a Punjabi Sikh family? I said yes, without a doubt. It's an open philosophy that resonates well with me. But my mind didn't stop pondering this question and started to wonder whether I was following this path blindly. I do love God, my issues is not with having a problem being all in. Spirituality and love over mechanical rituals any day. I used Quran as an example because it's conversations regarding it that I've been most involved in recently. But another thing that created doubts in my head is when I realised after getting to know some Muslims quite well that how admirable their strict adherence to morality and faith can be, not the impression I had been given growing up in a Punjabi family or from the media.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong, even now in comparison to the teachings of other faiths my love for SGGS Ji is still greater. But I've never been in the habit of looking at things from just one side. Though in this case I think I may really be out of my depth and should focus on my own beliefs first before being emotionally led astray. I haven't fully read any other scriptures yet, I'm in the process of doing so however. Quran and the Bible mainly, plus long deep discussions with some close friends who follow both. But I'll try to focus mostly on Sikhi, it's not as if it causes me any happiness to have these questions.</p><p>By "dead book" I meant that I should try not to do readings regarding such spiritual subjects with a stone heart, with the main purpose being dissecting the verses and looking for just flaws. I just hope I can find a good sadh sangat soon (I've really tried for 2 years, not had a heck load of luck) and maybe go speak to someone at my local Gurdwara.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Finally, please do not think I don't have admiration for the gurus. Yet I am to read of someone as noble as them who put the amazing ideals of being a Saint-Soldier into practice, displayed great courage, mercy and character in times of adversity. Belittling Sikhi was not my intention, but this issue had been screaming in my head and I just had to get it out. I really appreciate your patience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rajveer_97, post: 216446, member: 21285"] Good questions, thanks for them and I really should think about them. Reflecting on them I think I got way ahead of my game. I don't have any Sikh friends or company, unfortunately, most of my friends are devout Christians, Muslims and atheists and these discussions are the kind we have a lot. So far I had held pretty well on my own, but now it seems like the debates started to wear me down and I let doubt get to me. For these 2 years I was pretty ardent in my belief. One of the things that really hit me was when someone asked: Would you really still be a Sikh if you weren't born into a Punjabi Sikh family? I said yes, without a doubt. It's an open philosophy that resonates well with me. But my mind didn't stop pondering this question and started to wonder whether I was following this path blindly. I do love God, my issues is not with having a problem being all in. Spirituality and love over mechanical rituals any day. I used Quran as an example because it's conversations regarding it that I've been most involved in recently. But another thing that created doubts in my head is when I realised after getting to know some Muslims quite well that how admirable their strict adherence to morality and faith can be, not the impression I had been given growing up in a Punjabi family or from the media. Don't get me wrong, even now in comparison to the teachings of other faiths my love for SGGS Ji is still greater. But I've never been in the habit of looking at things from just one side. Though in this case I think I may really be out of my depth and should focus on my own beliefs first before being emotionally led astray. I haven't fully read any other scriptures yet, I'm in the process of doing so however. Quran and the Bible mainly, plus long deep discussions with some close friends who follow both. But I'll try to focus mostly on Sikhi, it's not as if it causes me any happiness to have these questions. By "dead book" I meant that I should try not to do readings regarding such spiritual subjects with a stone heart, with the main purpose being dissecting the verses and looking for just flaws. I just hope I can find a good sadh sangat soon (I've really tried for 2 years, not had a heck load of luck) and maybe go speak to someone at my local Gurdwara. Finally, please do not think I don't have admiration for the gurus. Yet I am to read of someone as noble as them who put the amazing ideals of being a Saint-Soldier into practice, displayed great courage, mercy and character in times of adversity. Belittling Sikhi was not my intention, but this issue had been screaming in my head and I just had to get it out. I really appreciate your patience. [/QUOTE]
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