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<blockquote data-quote="kawalsin" data-source="post: 92335" data-attributes="member: 7651"><p>The statement "If I don't believe in God.... Is Sikhism pretty pointless" is a frivolous observation. It is like telling "If I don't believe in my father... Is Family System Pretty Pointless?". Yes and No. It is pointless for disbeliever, no for a believer. The pillar of Sikhism is unflinching trust in Guru and God. Guru Arjan Dev Ji said in Sukhmani Sahib</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">"ਜਾ ਕੈ ਰਿਦੈ ਬਿਸ੍ਵਾਸੁ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਆਇਆ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਤਤੁ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਤਿਸੁ ਮਨਿ ਪ੍ਰਗਟਾਇਆ"</span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">"<span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">One whose heart is filled with faith in God- the essence of spiritual wisdom is revealed to his mind."</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">And if one doesn't believe in God, Sikhism is really pointless to her/him. All other teachings of Sikhism (for Better living and so and so) will not help that person in the end. It is like a dead body getting decorated. As Guru Arjan Dev Ji said on Ang 240:</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">"<span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਗਉੜੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਮਿਲੁ ਮੇਰੇ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਅਪਨਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਦੇਹੁ </span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਧ੍ਰਿਗੁ ਧ੍ਰਿਗੁ ਅਸਨੇਹੁ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">੧</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਰਹਾਉ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਜੋ ਪਹਿਰੈ ਖਾਇ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਜਿਉ ਕੂਕਰੁ ਜੂਠਨ ਮਹਿ </span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਪਾਇ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">੧</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: darkred"><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਜੇਤਾ ਬਿਉਹਾਰੁ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਜਿਉ ਮਿਰਤਕ ਮਿਥਿਆ ਸੀਗਾਰੁ </span></span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">੨</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਨਾਮੁ ਬਿਸਾਰਿ ਕਰੇ ਰਸ ਭੋਗ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਸੁਖੁ ਸੁਪਨੈ ਨਹੀ ਤਨ ਮਹਿ ਰੋਗ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">੩</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਨਾਮੁ ਤਿਆਗਿ ਕਰੇ ਅਨ ਕਾਜ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਬਿਨਸਿ ਜਾਇ ਝੂਠੇ ਸਭਿ ਪਾਜ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">੪</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਨਾਮ ਸੰਗਿ ਮਨਿ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਨ ਲਾਵੈ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ਕਰਤੋ ਨਰਕਿ ਜਾਵੈ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">੫</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਮਨਿ ਨ </span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਆਰਾਧਾ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਚੋਰ ਕੀ ਨਿਆਈ ਜਮ ਪੁਰਿ ਬਾਧਾ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">੬</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਲਾਖ ਅਡੰਬਰ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਿਸਥਾਰਾ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਝੂਠੇ ਪਾਸਾਰਾ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">੭</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਸੋਈ ਜਨੁ ਲੇਇ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">ਕਰਿ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਜਿਸੁ ਦੇਇ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">੮</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">੧੦</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">॥"</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">"<span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Gauree, Fifth Mehl: </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Meet me, O my Lord of the Universe. Please bless me with Your Name. Without the Naam, the Name of the Lord, cursed, cursed is love and intimacy. ||1||Pause|| Without the Naam, one who dresses and eats well is like a dog, who falls in and eats impure foods. ||1|| Without the Naam, all occupations are useless, like decorations on a dead body. ||2|| One who forgets the Naam and indulges in pleasures, shall find no peace, even in dreams; his body shall become diseased. ||3|| One who renounces the Naam and engages in other occupations, shall see all of his false pretenses fall away. ||4|| One whose mind does not embrace love for the Naam shall go to hell, even though he may perform millions of ceremonial rituals. ||5|| One whose mind does not contemplate the Name of the Lord is bound like a thief, in the City of Death. ||6|| Hundreds of thousands of ostentatious shows and great expanses - without the Naam, all these displays are false. ||7|| That humble being repeats the Name of the Lord, O Nanak, whom the Lord blesses with His Mercy. ||8||10||"</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">Daas</span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'">Kawaljit Singh</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniBani'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kawalsin, post: 92335, member: 7651"] The statement "If I don't believe in God.... Is Sikhism pretty pointless" is a frivolous observation. It is like telling "If I don't believe in my father... Is Family System Pretty Pointless?". Yes and No. It is pointless for disbeliever, no for a believer. The pillar of Sikhism is unflinching trust in Guru and God. Guru Arjan Dev Ji said in Sukhmani Sahib [COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]"ਜਾ ਕੈ ਰਿਦੈ ਬਿਸ੍ਵਾਸੁ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਆਇਆ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਤਤੁ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਤਿਸੁ ਮਨਿ ਪ੍ਰਗਟਾਇਆ"[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]"[FONT=Tahoma]One whose heart is filled with faith in God- the essence of spiritual wisdom is revealed to his mind."[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani][FONT=Tahoma]And if one doesn't believe in God, Sikhism is really pointless to her/him. All other teachings of Sikhism (for Better living and so and so) will not help that person in the end. It is like a dead body getting decorated. As Guru Arjan Dev Ji said on Ang 240:[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani][FONT=Tahoma]"[COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਗਉੜੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਮਿਲੁ ਮੇਰੇ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਅਪਨਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਦੇਹੁ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਧ੍ਰਿਗੁ ਧ੍ਰਿਗੁ ਅਸਨੇਹੁ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]੧[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਰਹਾਉ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਜੋ ਪਹਿਰੈ ਖਾਇ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਜਿਉ ਕੂਕਰੁ ਜੂਠਨ ਮਹਿ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਪਾਇ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]੧[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=darkred][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਜੇਤਾ ਬਿਉਹਾਰੁ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਜਿਉ ਮਿਰਤਕ ਮਿਥਿਆ ਸੀਗਾਰੁ [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]੨[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਨਾਮੁ ਬਿਸਾਰਿ ਕਰੇ ਰਸ ਭੋਗ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਸੁਖੁ ਸੁਪਨੈ ਨਹੀ ਤਨ ਮਹਿ ਰੋਗ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]੩[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਨਾਮੁ ਤਿਆਗਿ ਕਰੇ ਅਨ ਕਾਜ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਬਿਨਸਿ ਜਾਇ ਝੂਠੇ ਸਭਿ ਪਾਜ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]੪[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਨਾਮ ਸੰਗਿ ਮਨਿ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਨ ਲਾਵੈ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ਕਰਤੋ ਨਰਕਿ ਜਾਵੈ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]੫[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਮਨਿ ਨ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਆਰਾਧਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਚੋਰ ਕੀ ਨਿਆਈ ਜਮ ਪੁਰਿ ਬਾਧਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]੬[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਲਾਖ ਅਡੰਬਰ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਿਸਥਾਰਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਝੂਠੇ ਪਾਸਾਰਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]੭[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਸੋਈ ਜਨੁ ਲੇਇ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]ਕਰਿ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਜਿਸੁ ਦੇਇ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]੮[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]੧੦[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]॥"[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=navy][FONT=AnmolUniBani]"[FONT=Tahoma]Gauree, Fifth Mehl: [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]Meet me, O my Lord of the Universe. Please bless me with Your Name. Without the Naam, the Name of the Lord, cursed, cursed is love and intimacy. ||1||Pause|| Without the Naam, one who dresses and eats well is like a dog, who falls in and eats impure foods. ||1|| Without the Naam, all occupations are useless, like decorations on a dead body. ||2|| One who forgets the Naam and indulges in pleasures, shall find no peace, even in dreams; his body shall become diseased. ||3|| One who renounces the Naam and engages in other occupations, shall see all of his false pretenses fall away. ||4|| One whose mind does not embrace love for the Naam shall go to hell, even though he may perform millions of ceremonial rituals. ||5|| One whose mind does not contemplate the Name of the Lord is bound like a thief, in the City of Death. ||6|| Hundreds of thousands of ostentatious shows and great expanses - without the Naam, all these displays are false. ||7|| That humble being repeats the Name of the Lord, O Nanak, whom the Lord blesses with His Mercy. ||8||10||"[/FONT] Daas Kawaljit Singh[/FONT][/COLOR] [/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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