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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 92292" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p><a href="http://www.sikhism.us/guru-nanak-dev/" target="_blank">Guru Nanak</a>'s purpose was not to <strong>say <u>if God existed or not, to him it DID NOT matter</u></strong><u>! His purpose was to improve the state of humanity. He used God's name to do that since<strong> everyone could relate to God</strong>. </u>So he said we all are the children of the same God (or the concept of God, it doesn't matter(quote Bhagat Singh Ji). </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Your assumptions have no limits. I wonder how some time you ignore facts but embrace assumptions. Above statement of yours is your own assumption based on faulty information or fake declaration on Guru Nanak’s God. Let me prove ( I know, there is no hope you will accept the truth but I will do it at least for the sake of others)</strong></p><p> <strong>Guru Nanak starts with expressing God in Mool Mantra where he <u>calls</u></strong><u> <strong>Lord a reality, having existence.( Sat Naam)</strong></u></p><p> <strong>Next, when Guru says my God is</strong> <strong>only one, not only he accepts him real but fortifies his views expressed in Mool Mantra, please read on</strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਹਿਬੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੇਰਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਏਕੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੈ</span> </a></span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਏਕੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਾਈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਏਕੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A5%A5%E0%A9%A7%E0%A5%A5" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਹਾਉ</span> </a></span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </strong></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Sāhib merā eko hai.</span> </strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Ėko hai bẖā▫ī eko hai. ||1|| rahā▫o.</span> </strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">My Lord is but one.</span></span> </strong><strong><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">He is one alone, O brother. He is one in one. Pause.</span></span> </strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span></span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਾਰੇ</span></span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span></span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9B%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%A1%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਛੋਡੈ</span></span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span></span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲੇਵੈ</span></span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%87" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੇਇ</span></span> </a></span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵੇਖੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਿਗਸੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਦਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰੇਇ</span> </a></span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੨</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> (SGGS350)</strong></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Āpe māre āpe cẖẖodai āpe levai ḏe▫e.</span> </strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Āpe vekẖai āpe vigsai āpe naḏar kare▫i. ||2||</span> </strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">He Himself annihilates and Himself releases</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">. He of Himself takes and of Himself gives.</span></span> </strong><strong><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">He Himself beholds and Himself rejoices. He Himself casts His merciful glance.</span></span> </strong></p><p> <strong>Why here stress is given on His being one with enormous power of annihilating and liberating. If Guru Nanak has any doubts(as you do) about Him, why would he start expressing Him as a realty and then being only the one who has power to finish and liberate? Look at another Guru Vaak where His existence is described as permanent compare to all seen creation</strong></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਭ ਦੁਨੀ ਆਵਣ ਜਾਵਣੀ</span></span> <strong><span style="color: #AB5555"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੁਕਾਮ</span></span></strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ੁ ਏਕੁ ਰਹੀਮੁ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੬</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span></p><p><strong><span style="color: black">Sab</span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span></span></strong> <strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ḏ</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black">unī āva</span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṇ</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"> jāv</span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṇ</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black">ī mukām ek rahīm. ||6||</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong><strong><span style="color: black">All the world comes and goes-only the Merciful Lord is permanent. ||6||</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਃ </span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">1</span></span></strong></p><p> <strong>Problem is this that there are some out there to preach that Guru Nanak just didn’t believe in God but only interested in improving the society, well here is for them</strong></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਝੂਠੇ</span></span> <strong><span style="color: #AB5555"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੁਚਲ</span></span></strong> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਛੋਤਿ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">(SGGS 831)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black">Nām binā j</span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span></span><span style="color: black">ū</span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṯẖ</span></span><span style="color: black">e kuc</span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span></span><span style="color: black">al kac</span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖẖ</span></span><span style="color: black">o</span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṯ</span></span><span style="color: black">.</span></p><p><span style="color: black">Those who lack the Naam, the Name of the Lord, are false, <strong>filthy and untouchable.</strong></span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"> If it doesn’t matter he exists or not why Guru would call people having no Lo</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=558&punjabi=t&id=24655#l24655" target="_blank">http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=558&punjabi=t&id=24655#l24655</a></span></span><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">rd’s name in heart are filthy? And here is how Guru Nanak feels about the Lord</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=558&punjabi=t&id=24655#l24655" target="_blank"><u>ਪੰਨਾ 558, ਸਤਰ 6</u></a></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: BLACK"><span style="color: #ab5555">ਤੈ ਸਾਹਿਬ</span> ਕੀ ਬਾਤ ਜਿ ਆਖੈ ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਕਿਆ ਦੀਜੈ ॥</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: BLACK">Ŧai sāhib kī bāṯ jė ākẖai kaho Nānak ki▫ā ḏījai.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: BLACK">One who brings me a message from my Lord and Master - says Nanak, what shall I give to Him?</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: green">ਮਃ 1</span></span> </strong></p><p></p><p> </p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 92292, member: 5889"] [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/guru-nanak-dev/"]Guru Nanak[/URL]'s purpose was not to [B]say [U]if God existed or not, to him it DID NOT matter[/U][/B][U]! His purpose was to improve the state of humanity. He used God's name to do that since[B] everyone could relate to God[/B]. [/U]So he said we all are the children of the same God (or the concept of God, it doesn't matter(quote Bhagat Singh Ji). [B]Your assumptions have no limits. I wonder how some time you ignore facts but embrace assumptions. Above statement of yours is your own assumption based on faulty information or fake declaration on Guru Nanak’s God. Let me prove ( I know, there is no hope you will accept the truth but I will do it at least for the sake of others)[/B] [B]Guru Nanak starts with expressing God in Mool Mantra where he [U]calls[/U][/B][U] [B]Lord a reality, having existence.( Sat Naam)[/B][/U] [B]Next, when Guru says my God is[/B] [B]only one, not only he accepts him real but fortifies his views expressed in Mool Mantra, please read on[/B] [B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਹਿਬੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਮੇਰਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਏਕੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੈ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਏਕੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਭਾਈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਏਕੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A5%A5%E0%A9%A7%E0%A5%A5"][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89"][FONT=Raavi]ਰਹਾਉ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B] [B][FONT=Tahoma]Sāhib merā eko hai.[/FONT] [/B][B][FONT=Tahoma]Ėko hai bẖā▫ī eko hai. ||1|| rahā▫o.[/FONT] [/B] [B][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]My Lord is but one.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]He is one alone, O brother. He is one in one. Pause.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B] [B][COLOR=red][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪੇ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red] [/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਮਾਰੇ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red] [/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪੇ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red] [/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9B%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%A1%E0%A9%88"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਛੋਡੈ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red] [/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪੇ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red] [/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਲੇਵੈ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red] [/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%87"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਦੇਇ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red] [/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਵੇਖੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਿਗਸੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਦਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰੇਇ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੨[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] (SGGS350)[/B] [B][FONT=Tahoma]Āpe māre āpe cẖẖodai āpe levai ḏe▫e.[/FONT] [/B][B][FONT=Tahoma]Āpe vekẖai āpe vigsai āpe naḏar kare▫i. ||2||[/FONT] [/B] [B][COLOR=red][FONT=Tahoma]He Himself annihilates and Himself releases[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]. He of Himself takes and of Himself gives.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]He Himself beholds and Himself rejoices. He Himself casts His merciful glance.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B] [B]Why here stress is given on His being one with enormous power of annihilating and liberating. If Guru Nanak has any doubts(as you do) about Him, why would he start expressing Him as a realty and then being only the one who has power to finish and liberate? Look at another Guru Vaak where His existence is described as permanent compare to all seen creation[/B] [COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਸਭ ਦੁਨੀ ਆਵਣ ਜਾਵਣੀ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr] [/FONT][/COLOR][B][COLOR=#AB5555][FONT=Raavi]ਮੁਕਾਮ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ੁ ਏਕੁ ਰਹੀਮੁ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]੬[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black]Sab[/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]ḏ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black]unī āva[/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]ṇ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] jāv[/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]ṇ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black]ī mukām ek rahīm. ||6||[/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=black]All the world comes and goes-only the Merciful Lord is permanent. ||6||[/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=green][FONT=Raavi]ਮਃ [/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green][FONT=AnmolUniPr]1[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B]Problem is this that there are some out there to preach that Guru Nanak just didn’t believe in God but only interested in improving the society, well here is for them[/B] [COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਝੂਠੇ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr] [/FONT][/COLOR][B][COLOR=#AB5555][FONT=Raavi]ਕੁਚਲ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਕਛੋਤਿ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr](SGGS 831)[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Nām binā j[/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black]ū[/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]ṯẖ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black]e kuc[/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black]al kac[/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]ẖẖ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black]o[/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]ṯ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black].[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Those who lack the Naam, the Name of the Lord, are false, [B]filthy and untouchable.[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr] If it doesn’t matter he exists or not why Guru would call people having no Lo[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=558&punjabi=t&id=24655#l24655"][/URL][/SIZE][/FONT][B][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr]rd’s name in heart are filthy? And here is how Guru Nanak feels about the Lord[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=558&punjabi=t&id=24655#l24655"][U]ਪੰਨਾ 558, ਸਤਰ 6[/U][/URL][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=BLACK][COLOR=#ab5555]ਤੈ ਸਾਹਿਬ[/COLOR] ਕੀ ਬਾਤ ਜਿ ਆਖੈ ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਕਿਆ ਦੀਜੈ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=1][COLOR=BLACK][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=BLACK]Ŧai sāhib kī bāṯ jė ākẖai kaho Nānak ki▫ā ḏījai.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=BLACK]One who brings me a message from my Lord and Master - says Nanak, what shall I give to Him?[/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=green]ਮਃ 1[/COLOR][/FONT] [/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr] [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [/QUOTE]
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