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<blockquote data-quote="max314" data-source="post: 25894" data-attributes="member: 2817"><p>You've got it.</p><p></p><p>The universe is perfect.</p><p></p><p>That's what Master Nanak was saying from the outset. Those who chose to listen to him (and no, they are not 'Sikkhs' :}{}{}<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> found peace. Those who never understood his message and continue in their empty rituals (and yes, these <strong>are</strong> 'Sikkhs' :}{}{}<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> are still at odds with themselves and with the universe. Like you say, you were depressed about not knowing "should I?"/"shouldn't I?" with regards to keeping your hair. You soon reailsed that this was nothing more than a triviality of the physical body. It meant next-to-nothing in terms of God.</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center">----</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em>"Pilgrimages, penances, compassion and alms-giving</em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em>Bring little merit, the size of a sesame seed.</em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em>But he who hears and believes and loves the Name</em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em>Shall bathe and be made clean</em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em>In a aplace of pilgrimage within him."</em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong>~Guru Nanak, 'Guru Granth Sahib', Japji, p.4 ~</strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">----</p><p> </p><p>As you rightly said, what the Gurus did was an <strong>intelligent</strong> analysis of what was required <strong>at the time</strong>.</p><p></p><p>The funny thing is that so many Sikkhs are stuck in a time warp that is <strong>over three centuries old</strong>.</p><p></p><p>I'll leave you to derive your own humour from that :wink:</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Hehe...a religion that apparently provides one with all the answers and seems to give one an easy, singular path through life? What's not to "like"? :}{}{}:</p><p></p><p>It's actually tougher to question yourself. That's the hardest thing to do. It's the last place most people want to go. It's the scariest place in the world.</p><p></p><p>But once you go there and make it through the fighting phase, you emerge stronger, nobler and more focussed than you ever thought you could be.</p><p></p><p>It can be a hard road...but think of it as a long-term investment.</p><p></p><p>The things I say about Sikkhi didn't start with me saying "I don't like this". As I said, the easiest thing in the world to do is just to keep your head down and follow the one in front. But I have always had a questioning nature (my parents will tell you stories about how I used to freak 'em out...when I was four) and simply seeing all of the apparent hypocrisies that were occuring within Sikkhism are what lead me to finally throw down the gauntlet to the faith and to deconstruct its mechanics and see what was <em>really</em> behind it all.</p><p></p><p>What I write is not a 'reinvention' of any discription. No. It is an attempt to <em>deconstruct</em> the reinvention <em>that has already taken place</em> over many generations and to view Gurbani in the purest possible light, uncorrupted by what 'Uncle-ji' reckons it means.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Congratulations <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Forget punctuation, this is excellent stuff :}{}{}: I am in total accordance with much of this. Two things that stood out that you said:</p><p></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><p style="text-align: center"><strong>My father always said- Religion is a mixture of sand and sugar, and you have to separate the sugar out and leave the sand alone. And this is the hardest thing to do. But if you can develop this ability, Salvation is not far away.</strong></p><p> </span></span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"></span></span></span></em><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black">Your father is a wise man, indeed. This is effectively what I am doing. Separating 'sand' and 'sugar' as it were. You might want to call it 'reinventing religion to suit myself', but with your amalgamation of teachings from the Gita, Bible and Granth, it seems as though you and me are pretty much in the same boat: to get to the essence of truth that underlies all spiritual journeys.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black">As you so rightly say:</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></span></span></span></span> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><em>God is everywhere, anything and everything happens at His Will, All religious faiths(if studied deeply) boils down to one thing- Experiencing God; does not matter which way they do it. Only thing is that you have to go beyond the religion.</em></span></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Going "beyond religion" is precisely right. Religions are human constructs, and not those of God. Heh...God has no use for religion (<em>"na koi Hindu, na kio Musalman"</em>). It is a way for us to quantify a particular set of beliefs. The thing is that you then go on to 'choosing a Guru'. Whereas you have chosen one (or a few, culminating in a whole, from which you take the elements that your own God-given judgement tells you is correct), I have decided that my 'guru' is the Mool Mantra. Even moreso than this, I have decided that "Ek Onkar" is my ultimate 'guru'. It just makes sense to me on every conceiveable level. It unites everything that seems to be conflicting into one unified whole...and I feel at peace with that.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Then, of course, there are the incredible poetries of the Granth that exemplify how one should live a moral life (with a nice side-serving of Guru Nanak's wit...yeesh, the guy must have been a blast to hang with :}{}{}<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> and everything just...falls into place.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I too have some knowledge of the Hindu scriptures, and there are details in there that are also quite beautiful. In particular:</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: Black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center">----</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em>"In him are woven the sky and the earth and all the regions of the air, and in him rest the mind and all the powers of life. Know him as the ONE and leave aside all other words. He is the bridge of immortality.</em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em></em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em>Beyond the senses is the mind, and beyond the mind is reason, its essence. Beyond reason is the Spirit in man, and beyond this is the Spirit of the Universe, the evolver of all.</em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em></em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em>When the five senses and the mind are still, and reason itself rests in silence, then begins the Path supreme.</em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em></em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em>And when he is seen in his immanence and transcendence, then the ties that have bound the heart are unloosened, the doubts of the mind vanish, and the law of Karma works no more."</em></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong>~ Extracts from the <em>Upanishads</em> ~</strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">----</p><p> </p><p>I find it to be no coincidence that Guru Gobind Singh Ji translated so many of the Hindu texts during peace time.</p><p></p><p>Then, of course, there is the reminder from the Bible that all on this Earth are naught but temporary delusions:</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center">----</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em>"Of Kings and Counsellors of the Earth who bult for themselves palaces now lying in ruins."</em></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong>~ Job 3:14 ~</strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">----</p><p> </p><p>Where did you think my alias came from? :wink:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="max314, post: 25894, member: 2817"] You've got it. The universe is perfect. That's what Master Nanak was saying from the outset. Those who chose to listen to him (and no, they are not 'Sikkhs' :}{}{}:) found peace. Those who never understood his message and continue in their empty rituals (and yes, these [B]are[/B] 'Sikkhs' :}{}{}:) are still at odds with themselves and with the universe. Like you say, you were depressed about not knowing "should I?"/"shouldn't I?" with regards to keeping your hair. You soon reailsed that this was nothing more than a triviality of the physical body. It meant next-to-nothing in terms of God. [CENTER]---- [I]"Pilgrimages, penances, compassion and alms-giving Bring little merit, the size of a sesame seed. But he who hears and believes and loves the Name Shall bathe and be made clean In a aplace of pilgrimage within him."[/I] [B]~Guru Nanak, 'Guru Granth Sahib', Japji, p.4 ~[/B] ----[/CENTER] As you rightly said, what the Gurus did was an [B]intelligent[/B] analysis of what was required [B]at the time[/B]. The funny thing is that so many Sikkhs are stuck in a time warp that is [B]over three centuries old[/B]. I'll leave you to derive your own humour from that :wink: Hehe...a religion that apparently provides one with all the answers and seems to give one an easy, singular path through life? What's not to "like"? :}{}{}: It's actually tougher to question yourself. That's the hardest thing to do. It's the last place most people want to go. It's the scariest place in the world. But once you go there and make it through the fighting phase, you emerge stronger, nobler and more focussed than you ever thought you could be. It can be a hard road...but think of it as a long-term investment. The things I say about Sikkhi didn't start with me saying "I don't like this". As I said, the easiest thing in the world to do is just to keep your head down and follow the one in front. But I have always had a questioning nature (my parents will tell you stories about how I used to freak 'em out...when I was four) and simply seeing all of the apparent hypocrisies that were occuring within Sikkhism are what lead me to finally throw down the gauntlet to the faith and to deconstruct its mechanics and see what was [I]really[/I] behind it all. What I write is not a 'reinvention' of any discription. No. It is an attempt to [I]deconstruct[/I] the reinvention [I]that has already taken place[/I] over many generations and to view Gurbani in the purest possible light, uncorrupted by what 'Uncle-ji' reckons it means. [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] Congratulations :D [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] Forget punctuation, this is excellent stuff :}{}{}: I am in total accordance with much of this. Two things that stood out that you said: [I][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue][CENTER][B]My father always said- Religion is a mixture of sand and sugar, and you have to separate the sugar out and leave the sand alone. And this is the hardest thing to do. But if you can develop this ability, Salvation is not far away.[/B][/CENTER] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/I][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=Black]Your father is a wise man, indeed. This is effectively what I am doing. Separating 'sand' and 'sugar' as it were. You might want to call it 'reinventing religion to suit myself', but with your amalgamation of teachings from the Gita, Bible and Granth, it seems as though you and me are pretty much in the same boat: to get to the essence of truth that underlies all spiritual journeys. As you so rightly say: [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [CENTER][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue][I]God is everywhere, anything and everything happens at His Will, All religious faiths(if studied deeply) boils down to one thing- Experiencing God; does not matter which way they do it. Only thing is that you have to go beyond the religion.[/I][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [/CENTER] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue] [SIZE=2][COLOR=Black][FONT=Verdana]Going "beyond religion" is precisely right. Religions are human constructs, and not those of God. Heh...God has no use for religion ([I]"na koi Hindu, na kio Musalman"[/I]). It is a way for us to quantify a particular set of beliefs. The thing is that you then go on to 'choosing a Guru'. Whereas you have chosen one (or a few, culminating in a whole, from which you take the elements that your own God-given judgement tells you is correct), I have decided that my 'guru' is the Mool Mantra. Even moreso than this, I have decided that "Ek Onkar" is my ultimate 'guru'. It just makes sense to me on every conceiveable level. It unites everything that seems to be conflicting into one unified whole...and I feel at peace with that. Then, of course, there are the incredible poetries of the Granth that exemplify how one should live a moral life (with a nice side-serving of Guru Nanak's wit...yeesh, the guy must have been a blast to hang with :}{}{}:) and everything just...falls into place. I too have some knowledge of the Hindu scriptures, and there are details in there that are also quite beautiful. In particular: [/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [CENTER]---- [I]"In him are woven the sky and the earth and all the regions of the air, and in him rest the mind and all the powers of life. Know him as the ONE and leave aside all other words. He is the bridge of immortality. Beyond the senses is the mind, and beyond the mind is reason, its essence. Beyond reason is the Spirit in man, and beyond this is the Spirit of the Universe, the evolver of all. When the five senses and the mind are still, and reason itself rests in silence, then begins the Path supreme. And when he is seen in his immanence and transcendence, then the ties that have bound the heart are unloosened, the doubts of the mind vanish, and the law of Karma works no more."[/I] [b]~ Extracts from the [I]Upanishads[/I] ~[/b] ----[/CENTER] I find it to be no coincidence that Guru Gobind Singh Ji translated so many of the Hindu texts during peace time. Then, of course, there is the reminder from the Bible that all on this Earth are naught but temporary delusions: [CENTER]---- [I]"Of Kings and Counsellors of the Earth who bult for themselves palaces now lying in ruins."[/I] [B]~ Job 3:14 ~[/B] ----[/CENTER] Where did you think my alias came from? :wink: [/QUOTE]
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If I Don't Believe In God, Is Sikhism Pretty Pointless?
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