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<blockquote data-quote="Archived_member15" data-source="post: 161546" data-attributes="member: 17438"><p>My dear brothers and sisters kaurhug</p><p> </p><p>I am very much intrigued by the Sikh theological concept of "Hukam" (Will). I have been pondering this idea deeply. I am really amazed by the number of teachings of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji that I already, deep down, believe. Much of Sikhism resonates with my deepest convictions and, interestingly enough, with many facets of the Catholic faith. </p><p> </p><p>First of all, before I get onto the topic of <em>Hukam</em>, I would like to ruminate on a small handful of Sikh concepts which gel perfectly with my own convictions and conscience (there are too many too pack into one post lol!). </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">"...Sikh moral and ethical values are based on the idea of <em>natural law </em>- similar to the Roman Catholic idea of natural law - the way God wants the universe too work...Nowhere in the Guru Granth Sahib is divorce mentioned because marriage is preordained by God. The Gurus believed in the commitment to marriage...Sikh theology, like Catholic theology supports the idea that there is only one kind of morally good sexual act: sex between a man and woman who are married and who are having sex to conceive and raise children to perpetuate God's creation...According to the Guru Granth Sahib human life begins immediately at the moment of conception and that creation of life is the will of God...The embryo or zygote that God has created is a divine gift which has to be nurtured and nourished to prepare it for the world, and the time in the womb is a valuable element of the spiritual development of the human being...For Sikhs an embryo or foetus has feelings as soon as conception takes place. In the Guru Granth Sahib there are verses which describe how the unborn child has the ability to meditate upon God's name as soon as it is conceived...Since Sikh theology argues that the soul is 'born' immediately upon conception it can be infered that it would be a sin to abort a foetus because, first, human life is created by God, and second, to abort the life would be to interfere with God's creative work...The sex of a child is preordained and God's <em>hukam </em>(will). Children are gifts from God and couples should accept God's will...From an analysis of the Guru Granth Sahib it is clear that the Gurus had a high respect for life, which they viewed as a gift from God. Thus, a Sikh has to accept that the life he/she has was decided by our karma and that God has determined how many breaths we 'breathe'. The injuction that God has preordained how longt we live and whether we have to suffer goes against the increasing modern practice of euthanasia and mercy killings. As a result there is no place for mercy killing, assisted suicide or euthanasia in Sikhism, for death happens when God commands it..." </span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><em><span style="font-size: 12px">- Jagbir Jhutti-Johal (in "Sikhism Today")</span></em> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Natural Law, reverence for marriage and discouraging of divorce, sacredness of human life from conception till grave, human life and the soul beginning at conception, children a gift from God and thus opposition to abortion, sex determination, euthanasia/mercy killings/assisted suicide...<em>WOW!!!</em></p><p> </p><p>As a Catholic this is like sweet music too my ears. I have never studied another religion which validates so many areas of Catholic moral doctrine! </p><p> </p><p>The Granth is such a <em>stunning</em> book of spiritual wisdom that I am truly <em>stunned</em> that it is not more readily available in English! If I go on to Amazon I can find literally thousands of translations of the Vedas, the Bhagavad Gita, the Upanishads, the Dhammapada of Buddha or the Qur'an...but so few of the Adi Granth! I think that this is a real travesty! </p><p> </p><p>Now to focus on "hukam". The emphasis upon the "divine will" in Sikhism has made me reflect intently upon the importance of the Will of God within my own religion. Anybody who has read the Gospels or has even a faint knowledge of the lives and teachings of Catholic saints, while recognize the similarity between Catholicism and Sikhism in this respect.</p><p> </p><p>I'm going to focus on it a little now. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">From Jesus' Sermon on the Mount (Gospel of Matthew 7): </span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black">"...Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but <u><strong>only he who does the will</strong> <em>[hukam]</em><strong> of my Father</strong> </u>who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’..."</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><em><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black">- Jesus Christ (Sermon on the Mount)</span></span></em></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">From the "Our Father" prayer that Christians around the world recite daily: </span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black">"...Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come, <strong>Thy <u><em>Will</em></u> </strong><em>[hukam] </em><strong>be done on earth as it is in heaven</strong>. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not to the time of trial but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory unto the ages of ages..." </span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><em>- Jesus Christ</em></span> </span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">"...<span style="font-size: 12px">I came down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him that sent me..." </span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black"><em>- Jesus Christ</em> </span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px">"...And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, 'O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me, nevertheless: <strong>not my will, but your will be done</strong>...</span><span style="font-size: 12px">" </span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black"><em>- Jesus Christ</em></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black">"...Whosoever shall do the will [<em>hukam] </em>of my Father who is in heaven, he is my brother.." </span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #0000ff"><span style="color: black"><em>- Jesus Christ</em></span> </span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Its not those who say "Lord, Lord" (have mere faith) but those who do the "<strong><u><em>will</em></u></strong> [<em>hukam] </em>of the Father". Unlike with Evangelical Protestantism, in Catholicism and in the Bible salvation is open to all who do the "will" [hukam] of God. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">This is the very same theology of the "will" underpinning the teaching of Pope Pius XII and subsequent teaching of the Holy Office in 1949 (the highest authority in the Vatican on doctrine) which condemned the theological errors taught by a renegade priest called Feeney who embraced the false notion (influenced perhaps by protestantism) that there was no salvation outside Christ and his Church: </span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Holy Office, Aug 9, 1949, condemning doctrine of L. Feeney (DS 3870):</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">"...It is not always required that one be actually incorporated as a member of the Church...God accepts an <strong><u>implicit will </u></strong><em>[hukam]</em>, called by that name because it is contained in the good disposition of soul in which </span><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><u>a man wills </u></strong><em>[hukam] </em><strong><u>to conform his will </u></strong><em>[hukam] </em><strong><u>to the will </u></strong><em>[hukam] </em><strong><u>of God</u></strong>...." </span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 10px">From some Catholic saints: </span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">"...<span style="color: black">Perfection is founded entirely on the love of God: "Love is the bond of perfection;" and perfect love of God means the complete union of our will with God's: "<em>The principal effect of love is so to unite the wills of those who love each other as to make them will the same things</em>." It follows then, that the more one unites his will with the divine will, the greater will be his love of God. Mortification, meditation, receiving Holy Communion, acts of fraternal charity are all certainly pleasing to God - but only when they are in accordance with his will. When they do not accord with God's will, he not only finds no pleasure in them, but he even rejects them...<strong><span style="color: black">The greatest glory we can give to God is to do his will in everything.</span></strong><span style="color: #0000ff"><span style="color: black"> Our Redeemer came on earth to glorify his heavenly Father and to teach us by his example how to do the same....</span></span></span><span style="color: black">Our Lord frequently declared that he had come on earth not to do his own will, but solely that of his Father...<span style="color: black">To do God's will - this was the goal upon which the saints constantly fixed their gaze. They were fully persuaded that in this consists the entire perfection of the soul...<span style="color: black">A single act of uniformity with the divine will suffices to make a saint...</span>" </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><em><span style="font-size: 12px">- <span style="color: black">St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori (1696 –1787)</span></span></em></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black">"...It is not God's will that we should abound in spiritual delights, but that in all things we should submit to his holy will...<span style="color: black">I would rather be the vilest worm on earth by God's will, than be a seraph [highest angel] by my own...</span>" </span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black"><em>- Blessed Henry Suso (1290-1365)</em></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black">"...Those who give themselves to prayer should concentrate solely on this: the conformity of their wills with the divine will. They should be convinced that this constitutes their highest perfection. The more fully they practice this, the greater the gifts they will receive from God, and the greater the progress they will make in the interior life..."</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><em>- Saint Teresa of Avila (1515 – 1582)</em></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 10px">Much love!</span> kaurhug</span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archived_member15, post: 161546, member: 17438"] My dear brothers and sisters kaurhug I am very much intrigued by the Sikh theological concept of "Hukam" (Will). I have been pondering this idea deeply. I am really amazed by the number of teachings of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji that I already, deep down, believe. Much of Sikhism resonates with my deepest convictions and, interestingly enough, with many facets of the Catholic faith. First of all, before I get onto the topic of [I]Hukam[/I], I would like to ruminate on a small handful of Sikh concepts which gel perfectly with my own convictions and conscience (there are too many too pack into one post lol!). [SIZE=3]"...Sikh moral and ethical values are based on the idea of [I]natural law [/I]- similar to the Roman Catholic idea of natural law - the way God wants the universe too work...Nowhere in the Guru Granth Sahib is divorce mentioned because marriage is preordained by God. The Gurus believed in the commitment to marriage...Sikh theology, like Catholic theology supports the idea that there is only one kind of morally good sexual act: sex between a man and woman who are married and who are having sex to conceive and raise children to perpetuate God's creation...According to the Guru Granth Sahib human life begins immediately at the moment of conception and that creation of life is the will of God...The embryo or zygote that God has created is a divine gift which has to be nurtured and nourished to prepare it for the world, and the time in the womb is a valuable element of the spiritual development of the human being...For Sikhs an embryo or foetus has feelings as soon as conception takes place. In the Guru Granth Sahib there are verses which describe how the unborn child has the ability to meditate upon God's name as soon as it is conceived...Since Sikh theology argues that the soul is 'born' immediately upon conception it can be infered that it would be a sin to abort a foetus because, first, human life is created by God, and second, to abort the life would be to interfere with God's creative work...The sex of a child is preordained and God's [I]hukam [/I](will). Children are gifts from God and couples should accept God's will...From an analysis of the Guru Granth Sahib it is clear that the Gurus had a high respect for life, which they viewed as a gift from God. Thus, a Sikh has to accept that the life he/she has was decided by our karma and that God has determined how many breaths we 'breathe'. The injuction that God has preordained how longt we live and whether we have to suffer goes against the increasing modern practice of euthanasia and mercy killings. As a result there is no place for mercy killing, assisted suicide or euthanasia in Sikhism, for death happens when God commands it..." [/SIZE] [I][SIZE=3]- Jagbir Jhutti-Johal (in "Sikhism Today")[/SIZE][/I] Natural Law, reverence for marriage and discouraging of divorce, sacredness of human life from conception till grave, human life and the soul beginning at conception, children a gift from God and thus opposition to abortion, sex determination, euthanasia/mercy killings/assisted suicide...[I]WOW!!![/I] As a Catholic this is like sweet music too my ears. I have never studied another religion which validates so many areas of Catholic moral doctrine! The Granth is such a [I]stunning[/I] book of spiritual wisdom that I am truly [I]stunned[/I] that it is not more readily available in English! If I go on to Amazon I can find literally thousands of translations of the Vedas, the Bhagavad Gita, the Upanishads, the Dhammapada of Buddha or the Qur'an...but so few of the Adi Granth! I think that this is a real travesty! Now to focus on "hukam". The emphasis upon the "divine will" in Sikhism has made me reflect intently upon the importance of the Will of God within my own religion. Anybody who has read the Gospels or has even a faint knowledge of the lives and teachings of Catholic saints, while recognize the similarity between Catholicism and Sikhism in this respect. I'm going to focus on it a little now. [COLOR=black]From Jesus' Sermon on the Mount (Gospel of Matthew 7): [/COLOR] [SIZE=3][COLOR=black]"...Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but [U][B]only he who does the will[/B] [I][hukam][/I][B] of my Father[/B] [/U]who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’..."[/COLOR][/SIZE] [I][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]- Jesus Christ (Sermon on the Mount)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/I] [COLOR=black]From the "Our Father" prayer that Christians around the world recite daily: [/COLOR] [SIZE=3][COLOR=black]"...Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come, [B]Thy [U][I]Will[/I][/U] [/B][I][hukam] [/I][B]be done on earth as it is in heaven[/B]. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not to the time of trial but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory unto the ages of ages..." [/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=black][SIZE=3][I]- Jesus Christ[/I][/SIZE] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]"...[SIZE=3]I came down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him that sent me..." [/SIZE][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][COLOR=black][I]- Jesus Christ[/I] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=black][SIZE=3]"...And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, 'O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me, nevertheless: [B]not my will, but your will be done[/B]...[/SIZE][SIZE=3]" [/SIZE][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][COLOR=black][I]- Jesus Christ[/I][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=black]"...Whosoever shall do the will [[I]hukam] [/I]of my Father who is in heaven, he is my brother.." [/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#0000ff][COLOR=black][I]- Jesus Christ[/I][/COLOR] [/COLOR][/SIZE] Its not those who say "Lord, Lord" (have mere faith) but those who do the "[B][U][I]will[/I][/U][/B] [[I]hukam] [/I]of the Father". Unlike with Evangelical Protestantism, in Catholicism and in the Bible salvation is open to all who do the "will" [hukam] of God. [SIZE=3]This is the very same theology of the "will" underpinning the teaching of Pope Pius XII and subsequent teaching of the Holy Office in 1949 (the highest authority in the Vatican on doctrine) which condemned the theological errors taught by a renegade priest called Feeney who embraced the false notion (influenced perhaps by protestantism) that there was no salvation outside Christ and his Church: [/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Holy Office, Aug 9, 1949, condemning doctrine of L. Feeney (DS 3870):[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]"...It is not always required that one be actually incorporated as a member of the Church...God accepts an [B][U]implicit will [/U][/B][I][hukam][/I], called by that name because it is contained in the good disposition of soul in which [/SIZE][SIZE=3][B][U]a man wills [/U][/B][I][hukam] [/I][B][U]to conform his will [/U][/B][I][hukam] [/I][B][U]to the will [/U][/B][I][hukam] [/I][B][U]of God[/U][/B]...." [/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=2]From some Catholic saints: [/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]"...[COLOR=black]Perfection is founded entirely on the love of God: "Love is the bond of perfection;" and perfect love of God means the complete union of our will with God's: "[I]The principal effect of love is so to unite the wills of those who love each other as to make them will the same things[/I]." It follows then, that the more one unites his will with the divine will, the greater will be his love of God. Mortification, meditation, receiving Holy Communion, acts of fraternal charity are all certainly pleasing to God - but only when they are in accordance with his will. When they do not accord with God's will, he not only finds no pleasure in them, but he even rejects them...[B][COLOR=black]The greatest glory we can give to God is to do his will in everything.[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=#0000ff][COLOR=black] Our Redeemer came on earth to glorify his heavenly Father and to teach us by his example how to do the same....[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black]Our Lord frequently declared that he had come on earth not to do his own will, but solely that of his Father...[COLOR=black]To do God's will - this was the goal upon which the saints constantly fixed their gaze. They were fully persuaded that in this consists the entire perfection of the soul...[COLOR=black]A single act of uniformity with the divine will suffices to make a saint...[/COLOR]" [/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE] [I][SIZE=3]- [COLOR=black]St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori (1696 –1787)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/I] [SIZE=3][COLOR=black]"...It is not God's will that we should abound in spiritual delights, but that in all things we should submit to his holy will...[COLOR=black]I would rather be the vilest worm on earth by God's will, than be a seraph [highest angel] by my own...[/COLOR]" [/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=black][I]- Blessed Henry Suso (1290-1365)[/I][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=black]"...Those who give themselves to prayer should concentrate solely on this: the conformity of their wills with the divine will. They should be convinced that this constitutes their highest perfection. The more fully they practice this, the greater the gifts they will receive from God, and the greater the progress they will make in the interior life..."[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][I]- Saint Teresa of Avila (1515 – 1582)[/I][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=2]Much love![/SIZE] kaurhug [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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