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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 90938" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">SPN Sangat, I have found what have been looking for to support my stand in context of love and its importance in marriage.</span></span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">What I have advocated is just an inspiration from Guru Teaching that supports the true love between husband and wife. If that is created or started with this in that relation, there is no chance of infidelity and any other illusion can affect the relationship; together they can proceed on spiritual path. Love has nothing to do with lust and other things that tarnish the soul. Here is Guru advice:</span></span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%83" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਃ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A9%A9" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span> </a></span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਿਰੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਏਹਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਖੀਅਨਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਹਨਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%A0%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਇਕਠੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੋਇ</span> </a></span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਏਕ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੋਤਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੁਇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੂਰਤੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਿਰੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%90" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਹੀਐ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੋਇ</span> </a></span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">3rd Guru.</span></span> </strong><strong><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">They are not said to be husband and wife, who merely sit together[ </span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">As many do</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">].</span></span> </strong><strong><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Rather they alone are called husband and wife, who have one soul in two bodies</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">.[ only those can do this who are in love</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">]</span></span> </strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੋ</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"> (</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿਰਫ਼ ਸਰੀਰਕ ਤੌਰ ਤੇ) ਰਲ ਕੇ ਬਹਿਣ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਅਸਲ ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ਖਸਮ ਨਹੀਂ ਆਖੀਦਾ</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">; </span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਦੋਹਾਂ ਜਿਸਮਾਂ ਵਿਚ ਇੱਕੋ ਆਤਮਾ ਹੋ ਜਾਏ ਉਹ ਹੈ ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ਤੇ ਉਹ ਹੈ</span></span></strong> <strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਤੀ</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">।</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">।</span></span> </strong></p><p> <strong>This cannot happen without true love, it is just not possible, true love doesn’t blossom due to dowry, respectable family, caste or bowing to false honor, it should be naturally there within; and it elevates the soul to higher level where power, honor lose their meaning. If this Guru teaching is not practiced, we are just in denial and in self created misery in the name of many words that are empty. That is the love I have been expressing through my posts, to label it as lust, infatuation and juvenile affair is to be in denial of a fact well expressed by Guru Ji. Otherwise how will it can be one if other elements keep the disturbance going on? It is like uniting together for the purpose Guru infuses in us, it strengthens the possibility of ultimate love.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 90938, member: 5889"] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr]SPN Sangat, I have found what have been looking for to support my stand in context of love and its importance in marriage.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr]What I have advocated is just an inspiration from Guru Teaching that supports the true love between husband and wife. If that is created or started with this in that relation, there is no chance of infidelity and any other illusion can affect the relationship; together they can proceed on spiritual path. Love has nothing to do with lust and other things that tarnish the soul. Here is Guru advice:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%83"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਃ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A9%A9"][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਧਨ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਿਰੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਏਹਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਨ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਖੀਅਨਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਬਹਨਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%A0%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਇਕਠੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੋਇ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95"][FONT=Raavi]ਏਕ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਜੋਤਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਦੁਇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਮੂਰਤੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਧਨ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਿਰੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%90"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਹੀਐ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੋਇ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B] [B][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]3rd Guru.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]They are not said to be husband and wife, who merely sit together[ [/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green][FONT=Tahoma]As many do[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]].[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Rather they alone are called husband and wife, who have one soul in two bodies[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green][FONT=Tahoma].[ only those can do this who are in love[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]][/FONT][/COLOR] [/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਜੋ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr] ([/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਸਿਰਫ਼ ਸਰੀਰਕ ਤੌਰ ਤੇ) ਰਲ ਕੇ ਬਹਿਣ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਅਸਲ ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ਖਸਮ ਨਹੀਂ ਆਖੀਦਾ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr]; [/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਦੋਹਾਂ ਜਿਸਮਾਂ ਵਿਚ ਇੱਕੋ ਆਤਮਾ ਹੋ ਜਾਏ ਉਹ ਹੈ ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ਤੇ ਉਹ ਹੈ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr] [/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਪਤੀ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]।[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]।[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B] [B]This cannot happen without true love, it is just not possible, true love doesn’t blossom due to dowry, respectable family, caste or bowing to false honor, it should be naturally there within; and it elevates the soul to higher level where power, honor lose their meaning. If this Guru teaching is not practiced, we are just in denial and in self created misery in the name of many words that are empty. That is the love I have been expressing through my posts, to label it as lust, infatuation and juvenile affair is to be in denial of a fact well expressed by Guru Ji. Otherwise how will it can be one if other elements keep the disturbance going on? It is like uniting together for the purpose Guru infuses in us, it strengthens the possibility of ultimate love.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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