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How Can His Own Creation Become Chains?
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<blockquote data-quote="Archived_Member5" data-source="post: 93621" data-attributes="member: 2249"><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">How Can His Own Creation Become Chains?</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Your question was is The Supreme Spirit, The Creator enchained by his own creation. By your responses you have verified and illustrated that it is. The Spirit of humanity, of mankind, of the collective conscience and supreme wisdom is cast into a hell and web of complexity of the pure truth, by those who have not the mind, spirit or courage to understand it. Yes the creation holds truth and its writer to ransom, pay due reverence to the roguish and cunning demagogues presiding in power in the world societal stratum or be damned. Recitation of the word ad verbatim will not avail thee. Silence is Golden. Witch wenches unable to curry favour torment and by their tormenting will be destroyed by the very one they seek to discredit.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Why is the creator and his creation in chains<span style="font-size: 12px">...?</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Duality, dual loyalties, economically weakened nations and races submitted to the demagogues in power in this age of Kalyug. Punjab remains in chains. Its oppressor Hindustan by laws of karma is under threat and subtle attack internally by states demanding equal rights from a barbaric and extremist regime itself submitted to the western will eroding its culture and civilisation through the media. If it survives the Christian invasion, Islam will take and wield power, thus it accrues by its actions the toxic fruits of its own labours. America itself stands under threat its own people awakening to the horrors committed by its government and the Black power uprising. The rulers of the US and UK exemplify what the world is at this juncture ruled by.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Baskerville Old Face'">The oppression of the creator and its creation empowers an evil that will be vanquished by its own equally vile and sinful devious ilk. Thus the cycle of death and rebirth perpetuates ensuring only The Brahm Giani journeys through the ocean of fire safely whilst loud praise singers are cast back into hell. Should any Messiah seek to save them it is tormented and destroyed publicly by the demagogues who reward handsomely all those on its payroll, and destroy anyone who seeks to undermine their ill gotten gains. If Waheguru were alive what race, religion, caste or creed would he honour his name with, how would you know him, who would be his ally...?</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Try and answer any of my points The Creator and His Creation are chained and oppressed because they are racially, religiously and nationally divided. The media and state embody the values of the Creators opposition and are united as one will to power. This is why the Creator and creation is in chains. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Religious zealotry is alive and well in you PK70, you cannot be better than the company and counsel you keep, and I am tormented without one saviour in sight, as was Nanak before me as well you know. I do not convert and you are but a pawn of those enviers jealous of Sikhism being accorded any respect other than a small sub sect of Hinduism. I recognise my enemies and demons, you are spiritually blind, and Sikhs exemplify their religion even when cast into capture by their enemies and in chains.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Guru Nanak’s truths are absolute and pure based upon Love. Do not apply cunning by seeking to accuse me of berating One whom I have faith in and love for. Political tactics is using the trusted as a shield for one’s own sins..</span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archived_Member5, post: 93621, member: 2249"] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]How Can His Own Creation Become Chains?[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#333333][FONT=Baskerville Old Face]Your question was is The Supreme Spirit, The Creator enchained by his own creation. By your responses you have verified and illustrated that it is. The Spirit of humanity, of mankind, of the collective conscience and supreme wisdom is cast into a hell and web of complexity of the pure truth, by those who have not the mind, spirit or courage to understand it. Yes the creation holds truth and its writer to ransom, pay due reverence to the roguish and cunning demagogues presiding in power in the world societal stratum or be damned. Recitation of the word ad verbatim will not avail thee. Silence is Golden. Witch wenches unable to curry favour torment and by their tormenting will be destroyed by the very one they seek to discredit.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Baskerville Old Face]Why is the creator and his creation in chains[SIZE=3]...?[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#333333][FONT=Baskerville Old Face]Duality, dual loyalties, economically weakened nations and races submitted to the demagogues in power in this age of Kalyug. Punjab remains in chains. Its oppressor Hindustan by laws of karma is under threat and subtle attack internally by states demanding equal rights from a barbaric and extremist regime itself submitted to the western will eroding its culture and civilisation through the media. If it survives the Christian invasion, Islam will take and wield power, thus it accrues by its actions the toxic fruits of its own labours. America itself stands under threat its own people awakening to the horrors committed by its government and the Black power uprising. The rulers of the US and UK exemplify what the world is at this juncture ruled by.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#333333][FONT=Baskerville Old Face]The oppression of the creator and its creation empowers an evil that will be vanquished by its own equally vile and sinful devious ilk. Thus the cycle of death and rebirth perpetuates ensuring only The Brahm Giani journeys through the ocean of fire safely whilst loud praise singers are cast back into hell. Should any Messiah seek to save them it is tormented and destroyed publicly by the demagogues who reward handsomely all those on its payroll, and destroy anyone who seeks to undermine their ill gotten gains. If Waheguru were alive what race, religion, caste or creed would he honour his name with, how would you know him, who would be his ally...?[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#333333][FONT=Baskerville Old Face]Try and answer any of my points The Creator and His Creation are chained and oppressed because they are racially, religiously and nationally divided. The media and state embody the values of the Creators opposition and are united as one will to power. This is why the Creator and creation is in chains. [/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#333333][FONT=Baskerville Old Face]Religious zealotry is alive and well in you PK70, you cannot be better than the company and counsel you keep, and I am tormented without one saviour in sight, as was Nanak before me as well you know. I do not convert and you are but a pawn of those enviers jealous of Sikhism being accorded any respect other than a small sub sect of Hinduism. I recognise my enemies and demons, you are spiritually blind, and Sikhs exemplify their religion even when cast into capture by their enemies and in chains.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#333333][FONT=Baskerville Old Face]Guru Nanak’s truths are absolute and pure based upon Love. Do not apply cunning by seeking to accuse me of berating One whom I have faith in and love for. Political tactics is using the trusted as a shield for one’s own sins..[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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