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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ajmer singh Randhawa" data-source="post: 226281" data-attributes="member: 8590">Can't say why SPN allowed you to write this anti- Sikh post. Only an ignorant of Sikh religion, a fanatic Hindu may have such biased views. I shall elaborate on Sikh religion only which is not an offshoot of Hindu religion but a distinct, sovereign and independent complete religion which guarantee is followers to fulfil their religious needs right from birth of a child to salvation after death.Though a Sikh do not seek salvation but he prays his Guru may always be with him whether this world or other, only Hindus seeks salvation (Moksha). Now let us try to answer your querries;[Sikh is obviously Hindu!........................................False,answer given above.Sikhi Is BHAGWAN ki raksha! Waahe Guru.In Hinduism there are many rukshas for Brahma, for Shiva for Vishnu for the mai's Parvati Mai.. ect.Sikhi is BHAGWAN ki ruksha.Nobody can do raksha of  bhagwan but  god  himself is the protector. A Sikh pay his gratitude to  god for his victories, successes, or any happy moment in life. Sikhs even prayed and thanked Lord Akal purakh in evening when more than 30000 Sikhs were massacred by Abdali. our syche is different than you. You couldn't avenge Pathans, Durranis, Gazni, Gauri or Abdali whereas Sikhs defeated Abdali within 6 months after he blew up Darbar Sahib with canon-fire and cleaned debrees by pows of  Abdali to re-build it.Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaj's family is Chand!....... we aren't concerned with family background of Guru Nanak ji or any other Guru.Gur Nanak Dev ji was born in a Hindu Khatri (Business class) family. He reacted against the arid way in which Hinduism and Islam were often practiced. Guru Nanak vitalized them the real meaning of religion, getting rid of hatred and ego. He spread a message of love and universal brotherhood.Guru Nanak is known as founder of Sikh religion, he announced openly that neither he was Hindu nor Muslim. THATS ENOUGH TO DECALRE SIKHS ARE NEITHER HINDUS NOR MUSLIMS.In 1898, when S. Kahan Singh ji of Nabha wrote the book, "HAM HINDU NAHIN" to answer the Hindu miscreants, he refers Sir Lepel Griffin,"The Sikhs had abandoned the Hindu faith, and with it the system of law which is the basis of that faith and which was in-separable from it. For a hundred and fifty years they had been governed, as far as chiefships were concerned, by another code altogether, and it was as reasonable for them to refer to Manu and the Shastra as the source of legal authority, as it would have been for Muhammadans, who had embraced Sikhism to appeal to the Shara.(The Rajas of the Punjab P.338)"BAANI GURU GURU HAI BAANI !!VICH BAANI AMRIT SAARE !!GURBAANI KAHEY SEWAK JAN MAANE !!PARTAKH GURU NISTAARE !!" Maaney naahin ved bhed simrat puran ke,Pujat na Bhairon bhoot girja ganidun hain.Tith, waar, shakun, mahurt na jaane kachu,Rahu, ketu,shani, shukra,chandramaa danidun hain.Jaat, paat, mantra, jantra, tantra, vrat,shradh, hoam,Sandhya, sutak aad ko viswaasu nahin bindu hain.Dasmesh ko saput KHALSA hai bhinn panth,Mahaa hai agiyani Jou yaako kahey - Hindu hai.[We do not accept the authority of. The Vedas, neither that of Simritis and Puranas. We worship neither Bhairva, nor Ganesha. We recognize neither Tithis nor Omens, nor days. Neither Rahu, Ketu, Shani, Shukar, Sun nor Moon. We do not believe a bit in Sandhya, Sutak, Caste, Varna, Jantar, Mantar, Fasting, Homa or Shradh. Disciples of the Tenth Master, Khalsa Panth is distinct. Really ignorant is he who calls Khalsa as Hindu.]They are Kshatriyas! All Kshatriyas are from the blood of Sri Ram!!!Ninth Guru Teg Bahadar ji, He besides cultivating the humanitarian values and making supreme sacrifice for the sake of others, declared that for a noble living it is quite necessary that one should not frighten anybody, nor should submit to anybody’s fear. He advised his followers to unite with God by living a noble life and discarding the evils of falsehood, deceit, sham and ego. Guru Teg Bahadar martyred himself for the protection of Hindu religion and set an unparallel example of sacrifice for the cause of righteousness and standing strongly against the oppression of a bigot. That was the only way to eradicate the fear of death from the minds of Hindus and to make them strong enough to be able to protect their faith and lives.Guru’s only son Gobind Rai (later on renamed as Guru Gobind Singh, when baptized), who was barely nine years old, when occupied the spiritual throne of guru Nanak and he made up his mind to fulfill his mission of raising such a strong nation which could teach a lesson to tyrants and could serve with utmost devotion and dedication to the poor and suffering class. He had explicitly narrated in his autobiography known as Bachitar Natak that God has installed him to the status of his son and ordained for the creation of Khalsa Panth for the protection of righteousness and destruction of wickedness and cruelty. On the other hand by then the Sikh Guru preceding Guru Gobind Singh ji had already made their Sikhs proficient and steady in judging what to do and what not to do in life, which briefly is as follows :What the Sikhs should do :1)- Every Sikh should worship only one Timeless being– Akal Purakh. For him the teachings of ten Gurus, the baani of Guru Granth Sahib ji be the savior words. He should regard ten Gurus as one light and one single entity.2)- Every Sikh should respect all religions but have deep, unbounded faith in his own religion.3)- Every Sikh should learn Punjabi in Gurmukhi script to enjoy the recitation of Guru Granth Sahib Ji or Gurbani in original language and keep himself nearer his culture and heritage.4)- Every Sikh should always practice ;Naam Japna : (meditation on holy naam of one God), Kirat karma (earn one’s bread by honest living). Wand chakna (sharing one’s earning with the needy).Honest work and deeds, worship and charity, sharing and caring, selfless service and meditation are the main pillars of Sikh way of life.A Sikh thus belongs to a race of straight forward persons of action and emotions, sympathy and love, loving truth and truthful living.What not to do;1)- Simple living and high thinking should be his guide words.2)- Sikh should never steal, beg or gamble.3)- Sikh should regard poor man’s mouth as the cash chest (till) of the Guru.4)- The Sikh should not differentiate in between his son and daughter and equality be used to rearing them up.5)- Every Sikh should always observe the rules of Sikh code of conduct and conventions from cradle to cremation.6)- Sikhs are casteless people and they should go to wedlock with union of souls, one soul two bodies. This sanctity makes the marriage.7)- The Sikh should not marry a second wife if his first wife is alive. This is against the law of the land also.8)- The Sikh should never dis-respect hairs, but always keep his/her hairs covered10)- The Sikh should not discriminate while doing service to humanity. He should serve all equally without thinking of one’sreligion, caste, color or creed.Guru Nanak Dev Maharaj in Nitnem. Himself gives the reference of Gur meaning Guru To Shiva, Vishnu, Brahma, Parvati mai!!Thats your assumption only.  Gur and Guru both words used by Gurus which means the master who shows true path and takes away from darkness to light.Message of Guru to his Khalsa;“ You are the immortal soldiers of true dharma and the messengers of God. This country’s honor and liberty is entrusted to you by Waheguru. Mix freely with the world, but remain of one soul, one ideal and one aim.”Women shall be equal of men in every walk of life and their names would bear the epithet ‘KAUR’ meaning princess. He who kills his daughter, the Khalsa will snap ties with him. By doing so guru ji also once again added respectability to the women folk. You will keep unshorn hair to look like ancient sages. You will love the weapons of war and become excellent horsemen, marksmen, sportsmen and wielders of swords and spears. Physical prowess will be as sacred to you as spiritual sensitiveness. You are friend of all but enemy to none except the oppression. You would serve the poor without distinction of Caste, Creed, religion or region and would protect them with Deg (community food) and The ( physical strength). You will call yourself as Singh i.e. lions and greet each other with the salutation Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh meansKhalsa belongs to god Victory be to God.Five freedoms ;According to the Guru a person who is baptized completely cut off from his social past in which he had been living before being baptized.. Such a person enjoys five freedoms;1)- The total freedom from the tenets of his previous religion i.e. Dharam nash,2)- He becomes free from his earlier deeds i.e. Karam Nash,3)- He snaps his ties of his caste, race, clan, or heritage i.e. Kul nash,———now onwards, his father is Guru Gobind Singh, mother of khalsa is Sahib kaur and his place of birth is Anandpur Sahib.4)- He is absolutely free from taboos, customs and rituals in which he was engrossed before baptism i.e. Bharam Nash,5)- Finally he is free from all vocational distinctions i.e. Sharam Nash—-He developes this notion that his liberation is possible during his life by serving humanity and meditating on naam i.e. God’s name. he becomes saint and soldier simultaneously when he joins Khalsa brotherhood.How is Sikhs not Hindu???]Now you are given answer. on the contrary if Sikhs are Hindus, why were they massacred by Hindu killing squads in 1984?</blockquote>

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