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Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
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Gurbani (527-536)
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Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
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Gurbani (595-634)
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Gurbani (660-685)
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Gurbani (696-703)
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Gurbani (728-750)
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Gurbani (795-831)
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Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
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Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
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Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
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Gurbani (1197-1200)
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Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
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Gurbani (1254-1293)
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Gurbani (1294-96)
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Head Of British Sikh Association Attacks Kirpan
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<blockquote data-quote="Gyani Jarnail Singh" data-source="post: 173879" data-attributes="member: 189"><p>The Physical Kirpan is NOT a "symbol" becasue the SGGS empowers us with the GYAAN KHARRAGH (Sword of KNOWLEDGE). Todays SIKHS are so out of touch with the SGGS..that even the Gyaan Kharragh Sword of Knowledge is just a "symbolic" matha Tek !! ALL the "Gyan" 99% of Sikhs have vis a vis GURBANI/SGGS..is that its ..."something HOLY covered with rumalas, up there right in front ...which everyone matha teks..and places a dollar. PERIOD. The Gurus Sahibs Traveled the World..gathered Gurbani from Various saints bhagats sheikhs, spent over 10 lifetimes, wrote 1429 pages of GYAAN...and we have "SHORTENED" it all to a mere BOW and a Dollar Cash.</p><p></p><p>We then descend even LOWER and claim that its ONLY the Last Guru ....Guru Gobind Singh ji who made Kirpan mandatory...which is NOT Fact. <strong>KIRPAN is the BEDROCK of GURU NANAK JI's EMPOWERMENT MOVEMENT...</strong>He empowered WOMEN, the DOWNTRODDEN, the WEAK, the DEFENSELESS, the Silent LAMBS..to rise up and face the Marauding LION !! BEFORE a "soldier" is given the "License" to bear ARMS..he undergoes TRAINING...same here....No soldier is issued a Machine Gun on his first day..??? WHY should a "Sikh" be issued a Kirpan the moment he walks in and declares I want Amrit ??</p><p>We would have RENEGADE soldiers and we have RENEGADE SIKHS...its the SYSTEM at fault....not the WEAPON per se...</p><p></p><p>A COMPLEAT SIKH is one who begins with JAPJI...gets full GYAAN KHARRAGH...reads..understands..follows..adapts his daily life according to the 1429 pages of SGGS fully...and once he has the MENTAL PROWESS to Use the GYAAN KHARRAGH..then and ONLY THEN should he carry the PHYSICAL KIRPAN....then its the Right formula the right combination...otherwise FAULTY. Half Baked Sikhs carrying half baked symbols...a laugh....is like a CHILD handed a GUN..he will shoot his own foot..or kiddy sister..or grandma dead. Then the furore will be..<strong>WHO LET THE DOG OUT</strong> !!</p><p>THOSE "SIKHS" whsoe Gyaan kharragh is TINY..argue for a symbolic kirpan attached tot eir kanghas or even an <strong>EMBROIDED KIRPAN on their Kacherras</strong> !! ( and then smart alec will come out with a "historical Kacherra suppsoedly worn by Guru Gobind Singh ji..and it would have an Embroided Kirpan on it ha ha ha..possible really because every other day something like this emerges....there is a virtaul flood gates open on "holy relics"..thaalis, glasses, plates, shoes, cholas Manjas, Bistras, etc etc supposedly owned by the Gurus...whatever...WITH such an ULTRA MODERN SGGS as our GUIDE..we run around in circles quoting DGs and books found by the way-side...looking for "answers" which the GURU has OFFICIALLY already provided in SGGS.:grinningsingh::grinningsingh::grinningsingh::grinningsingh::grinningsingh:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gyani Jarnail Singh, post: 173879, member: 189"] The Physical Kirpan is NOT a "symbol" becasue the SGGS empowers us with the GYAAN KHARRAGH (Sword of KNOWLEDGE). Todays SIKHS are so out of touch with the SGGS..that even the Gyaan Kharragh Sword of Knowledge is just a "symbolic" matha Tek !! ALL the "Gyan" 99% of Sikhs have vis a vis GURBANI/SGGS..is that its ..."something HOLY covered with rumalas, up there right in front ...which everyone matha teks..and places a dollar. PERIOD. The Gurus Sahibs Traveled the World..gathered Gurbani from Various saints bhagats sheikhs, spent over 10 lifetimes, wrote 1429 pages of GYAAN...and we have "SHORTENED" it all to a mere BOW and a Dollar Cash. We then descend even LOWER and claim that its ONLY the Last Guru ....Guru Gobind Singh ji who made Kirpan mandatory...which is NOT Fact. [B]KIRPAN is the BEDROCK of GURU NANAK JI's EMPOWERMENT MOVEMENT...[/B]He empowered WOMEN, the DOWNTRODDEN, the WEAK, the DEFENSELESS, the Silent LAMBS..to rise up and face the Marauding LION !! BEFORE a "soldier" is given the "License" to bear ARMS..he undergoes TRAINING...same here....No soldier is issued a Machine Gun on his first day..??? WHY should a "Sikh" be issued a Kirpan the moment he walks in and declares I want Amrit ?? We would have RENEGADE soldiers and we have RENEGADE SIKHS...its the SYSTEM at fault....not the WEAPON per se... A COMPLEAT SIKH is one who begins with JAPJI...gets full GYAAN KHARRAGH...reads..understands..follows..adapts his daily life according to the 1429 pages of SGGS fully...and once he has the MENTAL PROWESS to Use the GYAAN KHARRAGH..then and ONLY THEN should he carry the PHYSICAL KIRPAN....then its the Right formula the right combination...otherwise FAULTY. Half Baked Sikhs carrying half baked symbols...a laugh....is like a CHILD handed a GUN..he will shoot his own foot..or kiddy sister..or grandma dead. Then the furore will be..[B]WHO LET THE DOG OUT[/B] !! THOSE "SIKHS" whsoe Gyaan kharragh is TINY..argue for a symbolic kirpan attached tot eir kanghas or even an [B]EMBROIDED KIRPAN on their Kacherras[/B] !! ( and then smart alec will come out with a "historical Kacherra suppsoedly worn by Guru Gobind Singh ji..and it would have an Embroided Kirpan on it ha ha ha..possible really because every other day something like this emerges....there is a virtaul flood gates open on "holy relics"..thaalis, glasses, plates, shoes, cholas Manjas, Bistras, etc etc supposedly owned by the Gurus...whatever...WITH such an ULTRA MODERN SGGS as our GUIDE..we run around in circles quoting DGs and books found by the way-side...looking for "answers" which the GURU has OFFICIALLY already provided in SGGS.:grinningsingh::grinningsingh::grinningsingh::grinningsingh::grinningsingh: [/QUOTE]
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