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Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
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Gurbani (94-109)
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Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
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Gurbani (151-185)
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Gurbani (347-348)
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Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
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Gurbani (527-536)
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Gurbani (537-556)
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Gurbani (557-564)
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Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
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Gurbani (660-685)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
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Gurbani (721-727)
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Gurbani (728-750)
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Gurbani (795-831)
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Chhant (843-848)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
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Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
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Gurbani (1168-1187)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
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Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
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Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
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Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
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Gurbani (1319-23)
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Gurbani (1352-53)
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Gaathaa Mahala 5
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Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
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Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
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<blockquote data-quote="Rajs" data-source="post: 2612" data-attributes="member: 327"><p><strong>Re: Harimandir Sahib Ji</strong></p><p></p><p>Neutral Singh,</p><p> </p><p>"But one that can never be manipulated is Granth Sahib Ji... the perpetual Sikh Guru." - Neutral Singh</p><p> </p><p>Allow me to shed some light on this misconception of yours. </p><p> </p><p>Guru Arjan Dev “compiled” (i.e., collected “past” scriptures) and had it written by a “scribe” Bhai Gurdas.</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">It was originally called “Adi” Granth (or, Pothi Sahib) <u>NOT</u> Guru Granth Sahib.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">Guru Gobind Singh undertook preparation of the “new” edition of “Adi“ Granth, which eventually became the “Guru” Granth Sahib, scribed by Bhai Mani Singh.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">The “eternal” Guru Granth Sahib, "which can never be manipulated", had its "beginning" in 1604, and completion in 1706, yet it is not called the eternal/timeless until 1</span><span style="color: black">708, hence overlapping five Gurus from Guru Arjan Dev to Guru Gobind Singh from its inception. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Why didn’t Guru Arjan Dev pronounce Adi Granth the “eternal/timeless” Guru in 1604? </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">What was the status of this holy book during the periods 1604-1706-1708 i.e., from being Adi Granth to Sri Granth, before finally declared the Guru Granth Sahib?</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Why did it take 104 years for Adi Granth to become Guru Granth Sahib?</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">So, the Guru Granth Sahib:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Though "eternal" had its beginning in 1604;</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Though "never manipulated" was altered/modified (apparently to remove some unauthorized texts) and dictated again by "another" Guru, Gobind Singh in 1706;</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">And finally, though "perpetual", written in 1604, yet did not become Guru until 1708.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Over to you.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Regards</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Rajs</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rajs, post: 2612, member: 327"] [b]Re: Harimandir Sahib Ji[/b] Neutral Singh, "But one that can never be manipulated is Granth Sahib Ji... the perpetual Sikh Guru." - Neutral Singh Allow me to shed some light on this misconception of yours. Guru Arjan Dev “compiled” (i.e., collected “past” scriptures) and had it written by a “scribe” Bhai Gurdas. [color=black]It was originally called “Adi” Granth (or, Pothi Sahib) [u]NOT[/u] Guru Granth Sahib.[/color] [color=black]Guru Gobind Singh undertook preparation of the “new” edition of “Adi“ Granth, which eventually became the “Guru” Granth Sahib, scribed by Bhai Mani Singh.[/color] [font=Arial]The “eternal” Guru Granth Sahib, "which can never be manipulated", had its "beginning" in 1604, and completion in 1706, yet it is not called the eternal/timeless until 1[/font][color=black]708, hence overlapping five Gurus from Guru Arjan Dev to Guru Gobind Singh from its inception. [/color] [font=Arial]Why didn’t Guru Arjan Dev pronounce Adi Granth the “eternal/timeless” Guru in 1604? [/font] [font=Arial]What was the status of this holy book during the periods 1604-1706-1708 i.e., from being Adi Granth to Sri Granth, before finally declared the Guru Granth Sahib?[/font] [font=Verdana][size=2]Why did it take 104 years for Adi Granth to become Guru Granth Sahib?[/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=2]So, the Guru Granth Sahib:[/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=2]Though "eternal" had its beginning in 1604;[/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=2]Though "never manipulated" was altered/modified (apparently to remove some unauthorized texts) and dictated again by "another" Guru, Gobind Singh in 1706;[/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=2]And finally, though "perpetual", written in 1604, yet did not become Guru until 1708.[/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=2]Over to you.[/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=2]Regards[/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=2]Rajs[/size][/font] [/QUOTE]
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