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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Archived_Member4" data-source="post: 85883" data-attributes="member: 6184"><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Finally, the True Guru said, .When I am gone, sing Kirtan in Praise of the Lord, in Nirvaanaa.. Call in the long-haired scholarly Saints of the Lord, to read the sermon of the Lord, Har, Har. Read the sermon of the Lord, and listen to the Lord.s Name; the Guru is pleased with love for the Lord. Do not bother with offering rice-***** on leaves, lighting lamps, and other rituals like floating the body out on the Ganges; instead, let my remains be given up to the Lord.s Pool. The Lord was pleased as the True Guru spoke; he was blended then with the all-knowing Primal Lord God. Ang 923</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The Guru then blessed the Sodhi Ram Das with the ceremonial tilak mark, the insignia of the True Word of the Shabad. || 5 || ang 924</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">This Shabad is telling a sakhi when Guru Amar Das ji left this earth and Guru Ram Das Ji was appointed the next Guru. And Guru Amar Das JI said at the time when I am gone sing Kirtan in praise of the Lord and call in the long-haired Scholarly Saints of the Lord to read the sermon of the Lord. Then Guru Amar Das ji says read the sermon of the lord and listen to the lord’s name. And don’t bother with performing rituals.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Yes it does say read the sermon of the Lord, but who should read it the long-haired <strong>scholarly saints</strong> of the <strong>LORD</strong> at that time when Guru Amar Das ji left this earth.. They are not just long-haired but scholarly and saints. This is a perfect example why a Sikh should keep the hair uncut. When Guru ji directly asked for specific Sikhs to read the sermons of the lord. There is no need to wonder why he called them to read the sermon of the Lord because he says why in the next three words <strong>‘of the Lord.’</strong> The long-haired scholarly saints are of the Lord.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Exactly, every part of the body mediates on the Lord’s name and the body consists of hair which also meditates. See you have said it yourself to the extent that each and every hair. There you have it. The hair as a use it meditates when the person meditates. Guru ji is telling us that the hair and the whole body meditates when the person meditates. Guru ji is not just saying his hair alone can meditate on the Lord but everyone else’s.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The hair on top of the head are like antenna’s that pick up on signals and we can use these hairs to get a higher frequency when they are kept long and uncut. When these hairs are tied on top of the head in a round ball they can pick up even higher frequency’s. Then the reason why we wear a pagg is because to keep this frequency on one channel. Also the reason why Buddhists shave their head bald is because then they don’t pick up on so many frequency which will make it difficult for them to meditate on nothing. This helps the Buddhist monks concentrate easier on what they are meditating on. </span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The hair is part of the body is it not. The body has hair on it and this is one part of Guru jis and our bodies. The body when brought into this world has hair on it.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">BhagatSingh ji, first you say, “<span style="color: #5b5b5b">Guru ji is saying that with these hairs, <strong>he meditates</strong> on the Lord's name.” and now you are asking me how I came to the conclusion that the hair has some use. When you cut that hair off it no longer is on the body and the person cannot meditate with that hair. The use of this hair is that it meditates with the person on the Lord.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Look at the first line of the Shabad it says <strong>WHEN </strong>you are in love with the One Lord. For this line to apply for anyone in this world they would have to be one with the Lord. Once you reach this stage then anything you do is true. This is what Kabeer ji is saying. And only <strong>WHEN </strong>you reach this stage in your life this Shabad apply to you.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: blue"></span></span><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Try to understand what Kabeer ji is saying and the best way to do this is by looking at what Kabeer ji is saying before this Shabad and right after it. Kabeer ji is talking about love for the Lord before these Shabads. He is saying the world is full of maya and to love this maya, and in these lines maya is being referred to as people, is usless,. And then he goes on to say only to love the one whose master is the Lord. Then the Shabads that comes after the lines that you have quoted is saying the world is full of other maya as well and the people that are attached to this maya fall in the trap and lose. Kabeer ji is saying once the duality alienation depart and you are in total love with the Lord <strong>THEN</strong> whatever you do is always true.</span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archived_Member4, post: 85883, member: 6184"] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Finally, the True Guru said, .When I am gone, sing Kirtan in Praise of the Lord, in Nirvaanaa.. Call in the long-haired scholarly Saints of the Lord, to read the sermon of the Lord, Har, Har. Read the sermon of the Lord, and listen to the Lord.s Name; the Guru is pleased with love for the Lord. Do not bother with offering rice-***** on leaves, lighting lamps, and other rituals like floating the body out on the Ganges; instead, let my remains be given up to the Lord.s Pool. The Lord was pleased as the True Guru spoke; he was blended then with the all-knowing Primal Lord God. Ang 923[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The Guru then blessed the Sodhi Ram Das with the ceremonial tilak mark, the insignia of the True Word of the Shabad. || 5 || ang 924[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]This Shabad is telling a sakhi when Guru Amar Das ji left this earth and Guru Ram Das Ji was appointed the next Guru. And Guru Amar Das JI said at the time when I am gone sing Kirtan in praise of the Lord and call in the long-haired Scholarly Saints of the Lord to read the sermon of the Lord. Then Guru Amar Das ji says read the sermon of the lord and listen to the lord’s name. And don’t bother with performing rituals.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Yes it does say read the sermon of the Lord, but who should read it the long-haired [B]scholarly saints[/B] of the [B]LORD[/B] at that time when Guru Amar Das ji left this earth.. They are not just long-haired but scholarly and saints. This is a perfect example why a Sikh should keep the hair uncut. When Guru ji directly asked for specific Sikhs to read the sermons of the lord. There is no need to wonder why he called them to read the sermon of the Lord because he says why in the next three words [B]‘of the Lord.’[/B] The long-haired scholarly saints are of the Lord.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Exactly, every part of the body mediates on the Lord’s name and the body consists of hair which also meditates. See you have said it yourself to the extent that each and every hair. There you have it. The hair as a use it meditates when the person meditates. Guru ji is telling us that the hair and the whole body meditates when the person meditates. Guru ji is not just saying his hair alone can meditate on the Lord but everyone else’s.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The hair on top of the head are like antenna’s that pick up on signals and we can use these hairs to get a higher frequency when they are kept long and uncut. When these hairs are tied on top of the head in a round ball they can pick up even higher frequency’s. Then the reason why we wear a pagg is because to keep this frequency on one channel. Also the reason why Buddhists shave their head bald is because then they don’t pick up on so many frequency which will make it difficult for them to meditate on nothing. This helps the Buddhist monks concentrate easier on what they are meditating on. [/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue] [/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]The hair is part of the body is it not. The body has hair on it and this is one part of Guru jis and our bodies. The body when brought into this world has hair on it.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]BhagatSingh ji, first you say, “[COLOR=#5b5b5b]Guru ji is saying that with these hairs, [B]he meditates[/B] on the Lord's name.” and now you are asking me how I came to the conclusion that the hair has some use. When you cut that hair off it no longer is on the body and the person cannot meditate with that hair. The use of this hair is that it meditates with the person on the Lord.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana]Look at the first line of the Shabad it says [B]WHEN [/B]you are in love with the One Lord. For this line to apply for anyone in this world they would have to be one with the Lord. Once you reach this stage then anything you do is true. This is what Kabeer ji is saying. And only [B]WHEN [/B]you reach this stage in your life this Shabad apply to you.[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue] [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#5b5b5b][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Try to understand what Kabeer ji is saying and the best way to do this is by looking at what Kabeer ji is saying before this Shabad and right after it. Kabeer ji is talking about love for the Lord before these Shabads. He is saying the world is full of maya and to love this maya, and in these lines maya is being referred to as people, is usless,. And then he goes on to say only to love the one whose master is the Lord. Then the Shabads that comes after the lines that you have quoted is saying the world is full of other maya as well and the people that are attached to this maya fall in the trap and lose. Kabeer ji is saying once the duality alienation depart and you are in total love with the Lord [B]THEN[/B] whatever you do is always true.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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