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<blockquote data-quote="Archived_Member4" data-source="post: 85665" data-attributes="member: 6184"><p><strong>Re: Hair...</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'">BHAIRAO, FIFTH MEHL: The Naam, the Name of the Lord, is the Inner-knower of</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'">my heart. The Naam is so useful to me. The Lord.s Name permeates each and every hair of mine. The Perfect True Guru has</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'">given me this gift. || 1 || ang 1144</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><em><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Okay lets look what the shabad is saying. God’s name exist in each and every hair of mine. Some can say the shabad is saying God exist everywhere. But one word changes everything here. “Mine” meaning my hair. So God exist in your and my hair. Now if I cut this hair does that bring me closer to God or further? Just this action alone all other factors stay the same. Then read the next line. </span></span></em></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">So you're saying God only exists in hair?</span></span></em></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">No where in the Shabad or my explanation of the Shabad I say GOD ONLY EXIST IN HAIR. Read the Shabad again and answer the question I asked you. Then I elaborated on the next line of the shabad which was….</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><em><span style="color: black">The Perfect True Guru has given me this gift. || 1 ||</span></em> </span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">….my explanation </span><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><em><span style="color: black">What gift is Guru ji referring to here? The gift of the lord’s name. The lord’s name is a gift from the True Guru and this naam permeates on every hair of mine then this hair that is on our body’s is of some use. It must have something really special about it but some do not know why it is so special. </span></em></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><em><span style="color: darkorange">Hair are all over your body so what that is saying is the the Lord's name is everywhere. In EACH and EVERY hair of mine. It's called figure of speech. Were not looking at a scientific document here, this is poetry!</span></em></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="font-size: 12px">Hair are all over your body so what that is saying is the the Lord's name is everywhere. </span></span></em></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Yes, the lord’s name is everywhere. Just like the lord exist everywhere. You name it and the lord’s name is there.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><em><span style="color: darkorange">In EACH and EVERY hair of mine. It's called figure of speech. Were not looking at a scientific document here, this is poetry!</span></em></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Its not figure of speech the Guru ji means what he said here. Lord’s name is everywhere its just we cannot see it because of our arrogance and stubbornness. </span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Quote:</span></span></em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Originally Posted by <strong>Singh</strong> <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-youth/19409-regarding-sikh-girls-13.html#post85543" target="_blank"><img src="http://file:///C:/DOCUME~1/HP_ADM~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> (Regarding Sikh Girls)</a></span></span></em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: black">He gives Support to the unsupported. The</span></em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: black">Name of the Lord is the Wealth of the poor. The Lord of the Universe is the Master of the masterless; the Beautiful-haired Lord</span></em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: black">is the Power of the weak. The Lord is Merciful to all beings, Eternal and Unchanging, the Family of the meek and humble. The</span></em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: black">All-knowing, Perfect, Primal Lord God is the Lover of His devotees, the Embodiment of Mercy.</span></em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: black">-1356-</span></em></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><em><span style="color: #5b5b5b"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Its on ang 1355 near the end and at the top of 1356. Just look more carefully, you’ll find it.</span></span></em></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px">All I wanted to share with you here was that Guru ji is describing Waheguru with beautiful-hair. </span></span></strong></em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Guru Ji says Waheguru has no form.</span></span></em></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Waheguru has no form and every form<span style="font-size: 12px">. He exist here and there. He exist in the past. He exist in the present. He exist in the future. And forever and ever and ever.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px">This theory works in both cases but keeping your hair is the better choice from the two because it was Guru Gobind Sinh Sahibs hukam, </span></span></em></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="font-size: 12px">Why is it better? Just because someone says its better?? </span></span></em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: darkorange">The Gurus did NOT think that way! So why do you?</span></span></em></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Changing the hair only takes time out of your day and that leaves less time to mediate on the lord. So Guru ji advised us to keep it as God made it and you won’t have to go through what you described as human nature. Also you can use that hair to mediate because when we mediate our whole body mediates on the lord not just the mind. </span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Hold up, read the Shabad one more time with an open mind. Lol yes it is getting repetitive which is the point. In the Sri <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/666-guru-granth-sahib-history-arrangements-text.html" target="_blank">Guru Granth</a> Sahib the Guru tells us to repeat the lords name over and over and this gets repetitive and I don’t see you taking it so lightly. The Guru repeats what they want us to understand so easily. Now if one cuts the hair off the body then how can that person mediate on that hair. </span></span></em></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Um, last time I check, we meditate on<strong> the infinite Lord</strong>.</span></span></em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: darkorange">If you meditate on your hair, then that's fine.</span></span></em></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I meant to say with hair. Sorry about this mistake, I should have been more careful. Here it is again with the change as it was intended</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Hold up, read the Shabad one more time with an open mind. Lol yes it is getting repetitive which is the point. In the Sri <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/666-guru-granth-sahib-history-arrangements-text.html" target="_blank">Guru Granth</a> Sahib the Guru tells us to repeat the lords name over and over and this gets repetitive and I don’t see you taking it so lightly. The Guru repeats what they want us to understand so easily. Now if one cuts the hair off the body then how can that person mediate with that hair. </span></span></em></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">That person has loosed the opportunity to mediate on that hair.</span></span></em></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Same thing as the top meant with hair not on hair.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Now if we are told to constantly mediate on the lord and we take away the hair that also mediates on the lord does that make us better off or worse off? </span></span></em></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Neither, the only thing that matters is that we are meditating.</span></span></em></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">We consist with hair with face with feet with arms with legs. Like I said in my above comment when a person mediates the whole body mediates. Not just one organ.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Look at it again and see why the Guru is so specific when he says who should be called in to read the sermon of the lord. The long-haired scholarly saints are the one he specifies to read the sermon of the lord. Not the one that shave their head bald, but the ones with long-hair. And it does help the reader realize hair should be kept. Because the shabad is saying only the pure one’s are to read the lord’s sermon when the Guru is gone from this earth.</span></span></em></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The guru is biased! </span></span></em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: darkorange">So the Guru calls in ones with long hair. Did he check to see if they were uncut? </span></span></em></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Why do you only pick one word and try to define it. Read the whole line; Guru ji is not biased but specific; there’s a difference. Guru ji is being specific here for a reason just like how he says the Lord’s name permeates on every hair of mine. You do not even try to understand what the Shabad is saying because you have closed yourself off from other views, which can be the correct views. So first open up that mind of yours. I am being serious here. I have met a lot of people that close themselves off to a different view by laughing it off. It’s a defense mechanism the mind develops when one is unable to understand what the other is saying. So the person goes on with their day without dealing with it and at the end run into a lot of problems.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">What! All Gurus kept their hair long. Look what the last shabad that I explained says. This is a total shock to me that you would think that any of the Guru would cut their hair.</span></span></em></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">It's a total shock to me that you think all their Gurus kept uncut hair, without any historical evidence.</span></span></em></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">All the Gurus have one soul. And that same soul exists in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib. So Sri Guru Gobind Sahib ji told his Sikh to keep their hair then it would be hypocrite of the other Guru not to keep their hair. One soul different bodies.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The Gurus Sikhs laid their lifes down because they were told to cut there hair. Here you say there is no proof. Truly astonishing. </span></span></em></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Buddy, the Gurus were forced to convert to a different religion! They laid down their lives because they wanted to practice their OWN beliefs. Not because they were told to cut their hair. Cutting hair after someone converted to Islam was part of the conversion process.</span></span></em></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Here I am talking about the Gurus disciples not the Gurus</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-size: 12px">When the question of hair arises in </span><a href="http://www.sikhism.us/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">Sikhism</span></span></a><span style="font-size: 12px"> like it has now it should be explored. Just pushing it aside is when one person can make a mistakes and end up telling others there is no use of hair. </span></span></em><span style="color: blue"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: blue"></span><em><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="font-size: 12px">I never said their is no use of hair, I simply commented that both haircuts and uncut hair (and nails) are God's gift. I suggest you read posts carefully before replying.</span></span></em></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">This comment is not directed at you BhagatSingh no need to defend yourself.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archived_Member4, post: 85665, member: 6184"] [b]Re: Hair...[/b] [FONT=Times New Roman] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahona]BHAIRAO, FIFTH MEHL: The Naam, the Name of the Lord, is the Inner-knower of[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahona]my heart. The Naam is so useful to me. The Lord.s Name permeates each and every hair of mine. The Perfect True Guru has[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahona]given me this gift. || 1 || ang 1144[/FONT][/COLOR] [B][I][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana]Okay lets look what the shabad is saying. God’s name exist in each and every hair of mine. Some can say the shabad is saying God exist everywhere. But one word changes everything here. “Mine” meaning my hair. So God exist in your and my hair. Now if I cut this hair does that bring me closer to God or further? Just this action alone all other factors stay the same. Then read the next line. [/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/B] [I][COLOR=darkorange][FONT=Verdana]So you're saying God only exists in hair?[/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [SIZE=3]No where in the Shabad or my explanation of the Shabad I say GOD ONLY EXIST IN HAIR. Read the Shabad again and answer the question I asked you. Then I elaborated on the next line of the shabad which was….[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][I][COLOR=black]The Perfect True Guru has given me this gift. || 1 ||[/COLOR][/I] [/SIZE] [SIZE=3]….my explanation [/SIZE][SIZE=3][B][I][COLOR=black]What gift is Guru ji referring to here? The gift of the lord’s name. The lord’s name is a gift from the True Guru and this naam permeates on every hair of mine then this hair that is on our body’s is of some use. It must have something really special about it but some do not know why it is so special. [/COLOR][/I][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][I][COLOR=darkorange]Hair are all over your body so what that is saying is the the Lord's name is everywhere. In EACH and EVERY hair of mine. It's called figure of speech. Were not looking at a scientific document here, this is poetry![/COLOR][/I][/SIZE] [I][COLOR=darkorange][SIZE=3]Hair are all over your body so what that is saying is the the Lord's name is everywhere. [/SIZE][/COLOR][/I] [SIZE=3]Yes, the lord’s name is everywhere. Just like the lord exist everywhere. You name it and the lord’s name is there.[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][I][COLOR=darkorange]In EACH and EVERY hair of mine. It's called figure of speech. Were not looking at a scientific document here, this is poetry![/COLOR][/I][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Its not figure of speech the Guru ji means what he said here. Lord’s name is everywhere its just we cannot see it because of our arrogance and stubbornness. [/SIZE] [I][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Tahoma]Quote:[/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana]Originally Posted by [B]Singh[/B] [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-youth/19409-regarding-sikh-girls-13.html#post85543"][IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME~1/HP_ADM~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG] (Regarding Sikh Girls)[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=black]He gives Support to the unsupported. The[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=black]Name of the Lord is the Wealth of the poor. The Lord of the Universe is the Master of the masterless; the Beautiful-haired Lord[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=black]is the Power of the weak. The Lord is Merciful to all beings, Eternal and Unchanging, the Family of the meek and humble. The[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=black]All-knowing, Perfect, Primal Lord God is the Lover of His devotees, the Embodiment of Mercy.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=black]-1356-[/COLOR][/I] [B][I][COLOR=#5b5b5b][FONT=Verdana]Its on ang 1355 near the end and at the top of 1356. Just look more carefully, you’ll find it.[/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/B] [I][B][COLOR=black][SIZE=3]All I wanted to share with you here was that Guru ji is describing Waheguru with beautiful-hair. [/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/I] [I][COLOR=darkorange][FONT=Tahoma]Guru Ji says Waheguru has no form.[/FONT][/COLOR][/I] Waheguru has no form and every form[SIZE=3]. He exist here and there. He exist in the past. He exist in the present. He exist in the future. And forever and ever and ever.[/SIZE] [B][I][COLOR=black][SIZE=3]This theory works in both cases but keeping your hair is the better choice from the two because it was Guru Gobind Sinh Sahibs hukam, [/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/B] [I][COLOR=darkorange][SIZE=3]Why is it better? Just because someone says its better?? [/SIZE][/COLOR][/I] [I][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkorange]The Gurus did NOT think that way! So why do you?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/I] [SIZE=3]Changing the hair only takes time out of your day and that leaves less time to mediate on the lord. So Guru ji advised us to keep it as God made it and you won’t have to go through what you described as human nature. Also you can use that hair to mediate because when we mediate our whole body mediates on the lord not just the mind. [/SIZE] [B][I][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]Hold up, read the Shabad one more time with an open mind. Lol yes it is getting repetitive which is the point. In the Sri [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/666-guru-granth-sahib-history-arrangements-text.html"]Guru Granth[/URL] Sahib the Guru tells us to repeat the lords name over and over and this gets repetitive and I don’t see you taking it so lightly. The Guru repeats what they want us to understand so easily. Now if one cuts the hair off the body then how can that person mediate on that hair. [/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/B] [I][COLOR=darkorange][FONT=Tahoma]Um, last time I check, we meditate on[B] the infinite Lord[/B].[/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [I][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=darkorange]If you meditate on your hair, then that's fine.[/COLOR][/FONT][/I] [SIZE=3]I meant to say with hair. Sorry about this mistake, I should have been more careful. Here it is again with the change as it was intended[/SIZE] [B][I][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]Hold up, read the Shabad one more time with an open mind. Lol yes it is getting repetitive which is the point. In the Sri [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/666-guru-granth-sahib-history-arrangements-text.html"]Guru Granth[/URL] Sahib the Guru tells us to repeat the lords name over and over and this gets repetitive and I don’t see you taking it so lightly. The Guru repeats what they want us to understand so easily. Now if one cuts the hair off the body then how can that person mediate with that hair. [/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/B] [B][I][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]That person has loosed the opportunity to mediate on that hair.[/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/B] [SIZE=3]Same thing as the top meant with hair not on hair.[/SIZE] [B][I][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]Now if we are told to constantly mediate on the lord and we take away the hair that also mediates on the lord does that make us better off or worse off? [/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/B] [I][COLOR=darkorange][FONT=Tahoma]Neither, the only thing that matters is that we are meditating.[/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [SIZE=3]We consist with hair with face with feet with arms with legs. Like I said in my above comment when a person mediates the whole body mediates. Not just one organ.[/SIZE] [B][I][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]Look at it again and see why the Guru is so specific when he says who should be called in to read the sermon of the lord. The long-haired scholarly saints are the one he specifies to read the sermon of the lord. Not the one that shave their head bald, but the ones with long-hair. And it does help the reader realize hair should be kept. Because the shabad is saying only the pure one’s are to read the lord’s sermon when the Guru is gone from this earth.[/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/B] [I][COLOR=darkorange][FONT=Tahoma]The guru is biased! [/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [I][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=darkorange]So the Guru calls in ones with long hair. Did he check to see if they were uncut? [/COLOR][/FONT][/I] [SIZE=3]Why do you only pick one word and try to define it. Read the whole line; Guru ji is not biased but specific; there’s a difference. Guru ji is being specific here for a reason just like how he says the Lord’s name permeates on every hair of mine. You do not even try to understand what the Shabad is saying because you have closed yourself off from other views, which can be the correct views. So first open up that mind of yours. I am being serious here. I have met a lot of people that close themselves off to a different view by laughing it off. It’s a defense mechanism the mind develops when one is unable to understand what the other is saying. So the person goes on with their day without dealing with it and at the end run into a lot of problems.[/SIZE] [B][I][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]What! All Gurus kept their hair long. Look what the last shabad that I explained says. This is a total shock to me that you would think that any of the Guru would cut their hair.[/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/B] [I][COLOR=darkorange][FONT=Tahoma]It's a total shock to me that you think all their Gurus kept uncut hair, without any historical evidence.[/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [SIZE=3]All the Gurus have one soul. And that same soul exists in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib. So Sri Guru Gobind Sahib ji told his Sikh to keep their hair then it would be hypocrite of the other Guru not to keep their hair. One soul different bodies.[/SIZE] [B][I][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]The Gurus Sikhs laid their lifes down because they were told to cut there hair. Here you say there is no proof. Truly astonishing. [/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/B] [I][COLOR=darkorange][FONT=Tahoma]Buddy, the Gurus were forced to convert to a different religion! They laid down their lives because they wanted to practice their OWN beliefs. Not because they were told to cut their hair. Cutting hair after someone converted to Islam was part of the conversion process.[/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [SIZE=3]Here I am talking about the Gurus disciples not the Gurus[/SIZE] [I][COLOR=blue][SIZE=3]When the question of hair arises in [/SIZE][URL="http://www.sikhism.us/"][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]Sikhism[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=3] like it has now it should be explored. Just pushing it aside is when one person can make a mistakes and end up telling others there is no use of hair. [/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][COLOR=blue] [/COLOR][I][COLOR=darkorange][SIZE=3]I never said their is no use of hair, I simply commented that both haircuts and uncut hair (and nails) are God's gift. I suggest you read posts carefully before replying.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/I] [SIZE=3]This comment is not directed at you BhagatSingh no need to defend yourself.[/SIZE] [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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