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Gurmat Vichaar
Gurmat Vichar - Discussions
Gurmat : Who Is The Deciding Authority
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<blockquote data-quote="Harjas Kaur Khalsa" data-source="post: 54149" data-attributes="member: 2125"><p><strong>Re: Gurmat :Who is the deciding Authority.</strong></p><p></p><p>Gurmat is what is in Gurbani, consistent with all shabads of Gurbani (in other words won't be contradicted by another pauri unless it's a misinterpretation) is consistent with Panthic authority: primarily Akal Tahkt, all the 5 Takhts, the Panj Piare, the accepted Panthic Rehit Maryada, the Rehitnamay, and the vaaran of Bhai Gurdas.</p><p> </p><p>If any point of Gurmat still remains a personal point of contention with all the above authorities and any stated positions, the individual holding the contradictory interpretation becomes less and less credible. If you are looking for Gurmat interpretation solely in the Shabadguru Ji, you will find much contention because all of Gursikhi Gurmat is not written in Shabadguru Ji. Some things are gupt like proper way of reciting Naam Gurmantar. Some things were spoken by Guru Gobind Singh Ji but not written in Gurbani, and were passed to Panj Piare and later written down as rehitnamay. Some valid Sikh traditions were simply distorted over time by mahants and were hidden and preserved by small sections of the Panth. This is one reason why Akal Takht and Sikh scholars are only now trying to analyze the role of Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth as in relation to Gurbani and all the accepted rehitnamay.</p><p> </p><p>Certain views are considered anti-Panthic and have hukamnamas against them by Akal Takht, such as RSS and certain Hindutva interpretations. Anyone violating these hukamnamas is subject to Panthic boycott. Thus personal views exist, contradictory positions exist within the Panth, but a fine line exists between what is accepted as Gurmat and what is not. And these are the accepted Sikh authorities for any Panthic dispute of interpretation.</p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: black">Ek Onkar, Satinaam , Karta Purakh, Nirbhau, Nirvair, Akal Murat, Ajhooni Saibhung, Gur Prasad:</span>There is one God, His name is truth, Creator, without fear, without hatred, eternal, unborn, self-existing, understood by Guru's Grace.</p><p> </p><p>These are not separate gods but all describing qualities of the Ek Oankaar (the One God). Waheguru is the Gurmantar according to vaaran of Bhai Gurdas Ji who Guruji Himself said was the key to understanding Gurbani.</p><p> </p><p>Vaheguru is the (V =Vishnu, H = Har, G = Gobind, R = Ram) name of the <u>One ineffable Lord</u> encompassing <u>all qualities</u> which have been attributed to separate gods. So it is impossible for Waheguru to be inferior in any way to Himself. The Gurmantar is just a way of calling, remembering again qualities of the ineffable One. But it is power laden word because it is Gurmantara. And if Naam is given by Panj Piare, the Naam Waheguru Gurmantar is infused into you. </p><p> </p><p>When someone takes amrit they are instructed to greet other amritdharis with <strong>"Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!"</strong> (The Khalsa belongs to God. The Victory belongs to God.) And this has come to us through the Panj Piare from Guru Gobind Singh Ji Himself. So here is perfect example that <strong>Waheguru is the proper way for an amritdhari to refer to the One God.</strong></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>bhull chuk maaf karni ji</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harjas Kaur Khalsa, post: 54149, member: 2125"] [b]Re: Gurmat :Who is the deciding Authority.[/b] Gurmat is what is in Gurbani, consistent with all shabads of Gurbani (in other words won't be contradicted by another pauri unless it's a misinterpretation) is consistent with Panthic authority: primarily Akal Tahkt, all the 5 Takhts, the Panj Piare, the accepted Panthic Rehit Maryada, the Rehitnamay, and the vaaran of Bhai Gurdas. If any point of Gurmat still remains a personal point of contention with all the above authorities and any stated positions, the individual holding the contradictory interpretation becomes less and less credible. If you are looking for Gurmat interpretation solely in the Shabadguru Ji, you will find much contention because all of Gursikhi Gurmat is not written in Shabadguru Ji. Some things are gupt like proper way of reciting Naam Gurmantar. Some things were spoken by Guru Gobind Singh Ji but not written in Gurbani, and were passed to Panj Piare and later written down as rehitnamay. Some valid Sikh traditions were simply distorted over time by mahants and were hidden and preserved by small sections of the Panth. This is one reason why Akal Takht and Sikh scholars are only now trying to analyze the role of Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth as in relation to Gurbani and all the accepted rehitnamay. Certain views are considered anti-Panthic and have hukamnamas against them by Akal Takht, such as RSS and certain Hindutva interpretations. Anyone violating these hukamnamas is subject to Panthic boycott. Thus personal views exist, contradictory positions exist within the Panth, but a fine line exists between what is accepted as Gurmat and what is not. And these are the accepted Sikh authorities for any Panthic dispute of interpretation. [COLOR=black]Ek Onkar, Satinaam , Karta Purakh, Nirbhau, Nirvair, Akal Murat, Ajhooni Saibhung, Gur Prasad:[/COLOR]There is one God, His name is truth, Creator, without fear, without hatred, eternal, unborn, self-existing, understood by Guru's Grace. These are not separate gods but all describing qualities of the Ek Oankaar (the One God). Waheguru is the Gurmantar according to vaaran of Bhai Gurdas Ji who Guruji Himself said was the key to understanding Gurbani. Vaheguru is the (V =Vishnu, H = Har, G = Gobind, R = Ram) name of the [U]One ineffable Lord[/U] encompassing [U]all qualities[/U] which have been attributed to separate gods. So it is impossible for Waheguru to be inferior in any way to Himself. The Gurmantar is just a way of calling, remembering again qualities of the ineffable One. But it is power laden word because it is Gurmantara. And if Naam is given by Panj Piare, the Naam Waheguru Gurmantar is infused into you. When someone takes amrit they are instructed to greet other amritdharis with [B]"Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!"[/B] (The Khalsa belongs to God. The Victory belongs to God.) And this has come to us through the Panj Piare from Guru Gobind Singh Ji Himself. So here is perfect example that [B]Waheguru is the proper way for an amritdhari to refer to the One God.[/B] [INDENT][COLOR=navy] [/COLOR][COLOR=blue][/COLOR] [/INDENT][INDENT][COLOR=navy][/COLOR][/INDENT]bhull chuk maaf karni ji [/QUOTE]
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