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<blockquote data-quote="NamHariKaur" data-source="post: 12527" data-attributes="member: 1453"><p><span style="color: magenta">Sat Nam Khalsa_Starr Ji;</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: magenta">I live in Eugene, Oregon.</span></p><p><strong><u><span style="color: magenta">OUR COMMUNITY</span></u></strong></p><p><span style="color: magenta">has maybe 80 members maybe less, and perhaps 30 or so of these are of Indian heritage. </span></p><p><span style="color: magenta">The community events and Gurdwara's are managed primarily by caucasion Sikhs who came to Sikhi through Kundalini Yoga and the teachings of Yogi Bhajan. Often the Indian Sikhs will take the Hukham or read the translations aloud afterwards. They also contribute a great deal to Sunday Langar here. I call those that came to Sikhi through yoga and Yogi Bhajan <strong><u>"3HO" Sikhs -</u></strong> for want of a better label to identify this group. Many of the 3HO Sikhs are Amritdhari. <strong><em>I myself did not come to Sikhi through those channels of Kundalini Yoga or 3HO camps or events, nor have I attended any of their Solstice events or camps. It was the sound current that snagged me and dragged me to this Gurdwara - hearing Gurbani chanting</em></strong>. I will tell much of my story one of these days in some detail in the "Introductions" section or in my profile. On Sundays I tend to sit with the Indian women more than with the caucasion 3HO women, partly because they greet me lovingly with a smile and a prayerful nod and I find them to be very beautiful. </span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: magenta"><u>SOME HISTORY:</u></span></strong></p><p><span style="color: magenta">Basically many people became (3HO) Sikhs in the decade of their 20s in the early 70's and are now in my age range 50-60. Their children are the 2nd generation 3HO Sikhs - born into Sikh families. The oldest of those is about 35. Many of these children go to the Miri-Piri Academy in India from one to many years. This 2nd generation has some very devout Sikhs who live a full Sikh lifestyle. Several of those that I have a lot of respect for here are 2nd generation Sikhs. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: magenta">3HO Sikhs are extremely committed to their children. </span></p><p><span style="color: magenta">I often cry in Gurdwara when I watch how lovingly the children are reminded to not make too much noise and such things.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: magenta">In saying this I am not comparing them to other Sikhs - as I have no familiarity with other Sikh families. I can only compare them to what I have seen over the years in typical American families, where I see all kinds of harshness and abusive treatment and even spirituality often taught in a punitive way. </span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: magenta">Also many in this community have taken Minister's vows. (Those vows are in the "Victory and Virtue" book that is completely online at </span><a href="http://www.sikhnet.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color: magenta">www.sikhnet.com</span></a><span style="color: magenta">). I can give a link directly to those vows if someone wishes me to look it up. </span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: magenta"><u>ISSUES:</u></span></strong></p><p><span style="color: magenta">Arvind made an excellent point that what people contribute to the community is all voluntary. I know that our director has two children and two jobs in addition to heading up the organizational aspects here.</span></p><p><span style="color: magenta">He himself of course has very little extra time - if any.</span></p><p><span style="color: magenta">Most of the community members work full time and have families too. So I have a sense of what the director meant about <em><u>people here not having time for taking on new causes or programs for newcomers</u></em>. The other fact is that there are not many newcomers here for them to be be concerned with. In my 14 months here the only others to begin attending here have been Sikhs moving here from elsewhere. <strong><em>I had not realized the degree to which my own situation was unusual, having arrived here by the Will of the Guru instead of through Kundalini Yoga experiences</em></strong>. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: magenta">I have not seen any of our yoga students take up regular Sadhana or coming to Sunday Gurdwara or attending other community events. We proabably have over 40 regular attendees of Kundalini yoga classes and maybe that many more who come intermittantly. The classes are taught in a large room adjacent to the Guru's room. I wonder how many of those people taking Kundalini Yoga classes here have curiousity and questions about Sikhism that they never ask because their just isn't any real forum for them to learn anything or to ask questions. (Most of the classes here are not taught by Sikhs for one thing). Kundalini yoga and the mantra meditations done in classes can very often bring up very strong experiences of spirituality. I am still thinking about surveying the yoga students about their needs and questions to see if there are some that might be wanting something more.</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: magenta">Because the factory that makes Yogi Tea and Breakfast Cereals is here in Eugene, Yogi Bhajan had spent a lot of time here. Many of those here were personal attendants and bodyguards of his. So the loyalty to Yogi Bhajan is very strong here. Thus far I have not spoken of my concerns about his teaching style or <strong><em>my concerns about how people may have mis-interpreted some of what he was trying to teach them.</em></strong> (I base my perspective about this on other Sikh and Eastern writings). So far I have kept quiet. I am still new and have been observing and studying what goes on. If the time ever does present itself for me to present my views in a way that might be helpful to others in my community or the greater 3HO community at large - even through web forums or something, I will certainly do so. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: magenta">More on my concerns and issues soon in the "<u><strong>Sikhs for Change" section of SPN -</strong></u> if that becomes the name of the new section here.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: magenta">So there are many great things about this community, without question. One does not see any drinking or smoking or hair cutting among our 3HO Sikhs. In many ways their commitment to a Sikh lifestyle is very strong. At Sunday Gurdwara, the spirit of the community is very strong and the only distractions are the beautiful 3rd generation young children who cannot sit still for long and love to move about. I am not bothered by the children though, they are so lovely to watch. </span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: magenta">LANGUAGE NON-ISSUE:</span></strong></p><p><span style="color: magenta">As each new Kirtan performer(?) begins they hand out Shabad sheets that give Gurbani, tranliteration and English versions. The chanting is nearly always done in Gurbani, which is fine with me. As I have posted elsewhere, Gurbani moves me deeply and is transformative. The English sometimes gives me some good things to reflect on also, but the Gurbani Kirtan is what does the most inside me - beyond the realm of my mind and my thoughts. So language is a non-issue here except that no one is teaching how to read Gurmukhi. I have learned it on my own and am still in need of some improvements with pronunciation of some sounds that are not produced when speaking English. </span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: magenta">ATTENDANCE:</span></strong></p><p><span style="color: magenta">Surprisingly, in spite of how many people here live a Sikh lifestyle, most of the year very few come to daily morning Sadhana, and often those who do leave without listening to the Hukham. The exception is from Baisakhi day until Summer Solstice during which time many do a 40-day Sadhana. We had about 15 people do that this year. During summer now, often I am the only one there or one or two others come for Sadhana and the Hukham. For the last month my own attendance has been sp{censored}, for a variety of reasons including a cold and allergies, though I will begin going nearly every day again soon. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: magenta">Wahe Guru</span></p><p><span style="color: magenta">Nam Hari Kaur, Eugene Oregon</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NamHariKaur, post: 12527, member: 1453"] [COLOR=magenta]Sat Nam Khalsa_Starr Ji;[/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]I live in Eugene, Oregon.[/COLOR] [B][U][COLOR=magenta]OUR COMMUNITY[/COLOR][/U][/B] [COLOR=magenta]has maybe 80 members maybe less, and perhaps 30 or so of these are of Indian heritage. [/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]The community events and Gurdwara's are managed primarily by caucasion Sikhs who came to Sikhi through Kundalini Yoga and the teachings of Yogi Bhajan. Often the Indian Sikhs will take the Hukham or read the translations aloud afterwards. They also contribute a great deal to Sunday Langar here. I call those that came to Sikhi through yoga and Yogi Bhajan [B][U]"3HO" Sikhs -[/U][/B] for want of a better label to identify this group. Many of the 3HO Sikhs are Amritdhari. [B][I]I myself did not come to Sikhi through those channels of Kundalini Yoga or 3HO camps or events, nor have I attended any of their Solstice events or camps. It was the sound current that snagged me and dragged me to this Gurdwara - hearing Gurbani chanting[/I][/B]. I will tell much of my story one of these days in some detail in the "Introductions" section or in my profile. On Sundays I tend to sit with the Indian women more than with the caucasion 3HO women, partly because they greet me lovingly with a smile and a prayerful nod and I find them to be very beautiful. [/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=magenta][U]SOME HISTORY:[/U][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=magenta]Basically many people became (3HO) Sikhs in the decade of their 20s in the early 70's and are now in my age range 50-60. Their children are the 2nd generation 3HO Sikhs - born into Sikh families. The oldest of those is about 35. Many of these children go to the Miri-Piri Academy in India from one to many years. This 2nd generation has some very devout Sikhs who live a full Sikh lifestyle. Several of those that I have a lot of respect for here are 2nd generation Sikhs. [/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]3HO Sikhs are extremely committed to their children. [/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]I often cry in Gurdwara when I watch how lovingly the children are reminded to not make too much noise and such things.[/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]In saying this I am not comparing them to other Sikhs - as I have no familiarity with other Sikh families. I can only compare them to what I have seen over the years in typical American families, where I see all kinds of harshness and abusive treatment and even spirituality often taught in a punitive way. [/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]Also many in this community have taken Minister's vows. (Those vows are in the "Victory and Virtue" book that is completely online at [/COLOR][URL="http://www.sikhnet.com/"][COLOR=magenta]www.sikhnet.com[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=magenta]). I can give a link directly to those vows if someone wishes me to look it up. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff00ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=magenta][U]ISSUES:[/U][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=magenta]Arvind made an excellent point that what people contribute to the community is all voluntary. I know that our director has two children and two jobs in addition to heading up the organizational aspects here.[/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]He himself of course has very little extra time - if any.[/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]Most of the community members work full time and have families too. So I have a sense of what the director meant about [I][U]people here not having time for taking on new causes or programs for newcomers[/U][/I]. The other fact is that there are not many newcomers here for them to be be concerned with. In my 14 months here the only others to begin attending here have been Sikhs moving here from elsewhere. [B][I]I had not realized the degree to which my own situation was unusual, having arrived here by the Will of the Guru instead of through Kundalini Yoga experiences[/I][/B]. [/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]I have not seen any of our yoga students take up regular Sadhana or coming to Sunday Gurdwara or attending other community events. We proabably have over 40 regular attendees of Kundalini yoga classes and maybe that many more who come intermittantly. The classes are taught in a large room adjacent to the Guru's room. I wonder how many of those people taking Kundalini Yoga classes here have curiousity and questions about Sikhism that they never ask because their just isn't any real forum for them to learn anything or to ask questions. (Most of the classes here are not taught by Sikhs for one thing). Kundalini yoga and the mantra meditations done in classes can very often bring up very strong experiences of spirituality. I am still thinking about surveying the yoga students about their needs and questions to see if there are some that might be wanting something more.[/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]Because the factory that makes Yogi Tea and Breakfast Cereals is here in Eugene, Yogi Bhajan had spent a lot of time here. Many of those here were personal attendants and bodyguards of his. So the loyalty to Yogi Bhajan is very strong here. Thus far I have not spoken of my concerns about his teaching style or [B][I]my concerns about how people may have mis-interpreted some of what he was trying to teach them.[/I][/B] (I base my perspective about this on other Sikh and Eastern writings). So far I have kept quiet. I am still new and have been observing and studying what goes on. If the time ever does present itself for me to present my views in a way that might be helpful to others in my community or the greater 3HO community at large - even through web forums or something, I will certainly do so. [/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]More on my concerns and issues soon in the "[U][B]Sikhs for Change" section of SPN -[/B][/U] if that becomes the name of the new section here.[/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]So there are many great things about this community, without question. One does not see any drinking or smoking or hair cutting among our 3HO Sikhs. In many ways their commitment to a Sikh lifestyle is very strong. At Sunday Gurdwara, the spirit of the community is very strong and the only distractions are the beautiful 3rd generation young children who cannot sit still for long and love to move about. I am not bothered by the children though, they are so lovely to watch. [/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=magenta]LANGUAGE NON-ISSUE:[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=magenta]As each new Kirtan performer(?) begins they hand out Shabad sheets that give Gurbani, tranliteration and English versions. The chanting is nearly always done in Gurbani, which is fine with me. As I have posted elsewhere, Gurbani moves me deeply and is transformative. The English sometimes gives me some good things to reflect on also, but the Gurbani Kirtan is what does the most inside me - beyond the realm of my mind and my thoughts. So language is a non-issue here except that no one is teaching how to read Gurmukhi. I have learned it on my own and am still in need of some improvements with pronunciation of some sounds that are not produced when speaking English. [/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=magenta]ATTENDANCE:[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=magenta]Surprisingly, in spite of how many people here live a Sikh lifestyle, most of the year very few come to daily morning Sadhana, and often those who do leave without listening to the Hukham. The exception is from Baisakhi day until Summer Solstice during which time many do a 40-day Sadhana. We had about 15 people do that this year. During summer now, often I am the only one there or one or two others come for Sadhana and the Hukham. For the last month my own attendance has been sp{censored}, for a variety of reasons including a cold and allergies, though I will begin going nearly every day again soon. [/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta][/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]Wahe Guru[/COLOR] [COLOR=magenta]Nam Hari Kaur, Eugene Oregon[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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