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Gurbani Contemplation - Selok Bhagat Kabir Ji
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<blockquote data-quote="Tejwant Singh" data-source="post: 94094" data-attributes="member: 138"><p>Dear Antonia ji,</p><p> </p><p>Guru Fateh.</p><p> </p><p>Please allow me to add my 2 cent worth.</p><p> </p><p>In the following Saloks, Kabir ji is talking about the difference between shallowness, parochial (closed) mindedness which breeds me-ism and open mindedness which leads us to the depths of One-ism and makes us find connection with Ik Ong Kaar. One more thing to keep in mind is that shallow waters, ponds are part of fresh( sweet water) unlike the salt waters of the oceans which are deep. Yes, some may argue that there are little salty ponds on the beach where one can also see the fish. But here Kabir ji is comparing salt water ocean against the fresh water little ponds.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Here Kabir ji using the metaphor of fish in relation to us. That if we are closed minded/shallow in our thought process, hence not ready to listen to the one who has true wisdom then we dwell in false security which is exposed easily, hence we entice ourselves to get caught in the net of those who perceive our shallowness. Who are those fishermen ready with their nets? False Sadhus that he has talked about in the Saloks before- Derawalas- Snake oil salesmen. The ones you, Antonia ji interpreted so well.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Kabir ji was a great poet and his similes above show that. We know that by nature the fresh water fish can not survive in the salt water of the ocean and vice versa.Salmon is the only exception which can survive in both.</p><p> </p><p>So here Kabir ji is asking us to become a kind of fish that can survive in the depth of the ocean. In other words become open minded so the fear of the depths of ocean is overcome so you can cope with this world and live the life of Miri-Piri. The open mindedness will make you swim the depths of life and hence take away the fear which you have cultivated in your self made cocoon- small pond. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Once again, let us talk about the laws of nature. Ocean fish can not leave the depths of the salty waters and dwell in fresh water. That is the fact. So now the question arises, what is Kabir ji talking about here? Do not try to run away from your problems. Only by confronting them, you can solve them. Swallow the bitter pill( salt water) if you must. It is the only way to learn.</p><p> </p><p>Here, Kabir comes back to the puddles of shallowness that he talked about in the previous Salok49. No matter how much you wander from puddle to puddle, you will get caught by the fishermen- False teachers- Sadhus-Dera walas- Snakeoil salesmen, no matter how much you try otherwise, hence it is not to your advantage. You will become like a rolling stone that can never gather moss- remain ignorant, immersed in me-ism. </p><p> </p><p>No one can take our me-ism out of us. It is we who have to make that effort ourselves by the help of a True Guru- teacher that he expands below.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>So now the question arises, what tools shall we use in order to take ourselves out of the shallow waters of me-ism because eventually the puddle is going to get dried up, all the water will evaporate and then there is no way to survive?</p><p> </p><p>Here Kabir ji is saying, seek the True Guru- teacher- the one who can train you to explore the depths of salt waters of the ocean- who can teach you to wear the robe of sadness with dignity- remain in Chardi kala-who can train you to cope with the odds of life. Otherwise you will be a loser and even those Dera walas- Sadhus-the snake oil salesmen can not help you when you are truly in need of help.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> With the help of this True Guru- teacher you will shed your ego- Me-ism and then you will be at peace with yourself and will stop wandering from one puddle to the other.</p><p> </p><p>Regards</p><p> </p><p>Tejwant Singh</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tejwant Singh, post: 94094, member: 138"] Dear Antonia ji, Guru Fateh. Please allow me to add my 2 cent worth. In the following Saloks, Kabir ji is talking about the difference between shallowness, parochial (closed) mindedness which breeds me-ism and open mindedness which leads us to the depths of One-ism and makes us find connection with Ik Ong Kaar. One more thing to keep in mind is that shallow waters, ponds are part of fresh( sweet water) unlike the salt waters of the oceans which are deep. Yes, some may argue that there are little salty ponds on the beach where one can also see the fish. But here Kabir ji is comparing salt water ocean against the fresh water little ponds. Here Kabir ji using the metaphor of fish in relation to us. That if we are closed minded/shallow in our thought process, hence not ready to listen to the one who has true wisdom then we dwell in false security which is exposed easily, hence we entice ourselves to get caught in the net of those who perceive our shallowness. Who are those fishermen ready with their nets? False Sadhus that he has talked about in the Saloks before- Derawalas- Snake oil salesmen. The ones you, Antonia ji interpreted so well. Kabir ji was a great poet and his similes above show that. We know that by nature the fresh water fish can not survive in the salt water of the ocean and vice versa.Salmon is the only exception which can survive in both. So here Kabir ji is asking us to become a kind of fish that can survive in the depth of the ocean. In other words become open minded so the fear of the depths of ocean is overcome so you can cope with this world and live the life of Miri-Piri. The open mindedness will make you swim the depths of life and hence take away the fear which you have cultivated in your self made cocoon- small pond. Once again, let us talk about the laws of nature. Ocean fish can not leave the depths of the salty waters and dwell in fresh water. That is the fact. So now the question arises, what is Kabir ji talking about here? Do not try to run away from your problems. Only by confronting them, you can solve them. Swallow the bitter pill( salt water) if you must. It is the only way to learn. Here, Kabir comes back to the puddles of shallowness that he talked about in the previous Salok49. No matter how much you wander from puddle to puddle, you will get caught by the fishermen- False teachers- Sadhus-Dera walas- Snakeoil salesmen, no matter how much you try otherwise, hence it is not to your advantage. You will become like a rolling stone that can never gather moss- remain ignorant, immersed in me-ism. No one can take our me-ism out of us. It is we who have to make that effort ourselves by the help of a True Guru- teacher that he expands below. So now the question arises, what tools shall we use in order to take ourselves out of the shallow waters of me-ism because eventually the puddle is going to get dried up, all the water will evaporate and then there is no way to survive? Here Kabir ji is saying, seek the True Guru- teacher- the one who can train you to explore the depths of salt waters of the ocean- who can teach you to wear the robe of sadness with dignity- remain in Chardi kala-who can train you to cope with the odds of life. Otherwise you will be a loser and even those Dera walas- Sadhus-the snake oil salesmen can not help you when you are truly in need of help. With the help of this True Guru- teacher you will shed your ego- Me-ism and then you will be at peace with yourself and will stop wandering from one puddle to the other. Regards Tejwant Singh [/QUOTE]
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