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ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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Gurmat Vichaar
Gurmat Vichar - Discussions
Gurbani Contemplation - Selok Bhagat Kabir Ji
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<blockquote data-quote="Gyani Jarnail Singh" data-source="post: 92904" data-attributes="member: 189"><p>As usual ( must be Guru Jis Kirpa....nothing less ) Antonia Ji has managed to grasp the gust of wind....</p><p>YES this is definitely two sides of the same coin....Kabir Ji says "DONT",,and Dhanana Ji says..I DIDNT.</p><p></p><p>2. On whether such stories/fables should or shouldnt be.... I always try and discover everything inside GURBANI itself. We need to focus and firmly beleive that any "question" asked in Gurbani..will definitley be ANSWERED in Gurbani...it may occur 500 pannahs later...it may be right at the end...BUT its THERE all right. We dont need any extraneous stories to explain the Message. The danger in such is that stories being of "entertainment" value...leave a lasting impression in childish minds...there is a danger that the mind may then demand more stories in order to stay "interested".</p><p>3. Just listen to a one hour of katha by...Prof Gurbachan Singh Bangkok walleh..it will be solid one hour of GURBANI ....exposition...relevance...linking shabads from all over Gurbani... just listen to say Ragi attached to any Sant matt tradtion'Taksaal etc....and it will be 55 minutes of stories..sayings/quotes of this Baba ji/that mahapurash Ji..and maybe if we are lucky he may have a single line of GURBANI of about 5 minutes ( that also just singing the shabad - incomplete one). </p><p>There is a saying..a Female Goat gives MILK...but most frequently will somehow or other manage to put MEENGGANNAH into it. Imho i regard sich stories as meenggnnah in MILK of Gurbani related expositions/expalnations. Thus my students get ONLY Gurbani and NO STORIES.</p><p>5. In the above example....my students will ask...How did Dhanna Ji KNOW about his past lives ?? Did Kabir also know..did Guru nanak ji also know..Have all of them also written about it..why didnt Kabir Ji tell us about His Previous lives...does any Sant baba Mahapurash brahmgiani LIVING TODAY KNOW about his past life/lives ?? On Kabir Ji there is No problem...because the Sikh GURU Sahib also says the EXACT SAME THING...Gobind millan ke eh teri barreah..THIS IS THE ONLY chance to meet your Gobind !!..not once but thousands of times.....</p><p></p><p>5. On the sandalwood....the Sikh GURU SAHIB...SATGUR is PARAS... Paras is the mythical stone that by its touch turns substances into GOLD. But NO "PARAS" can turn another stone INTO a another PARAS...just <strong>GOLD</strong> only.... The SATGUR is a PARAS that makes others into PARAS...!!!! An ordinary factory produces "goods".....the Sikh Satgur Factory produces other FACTORIES !!! Other Factories also produce "waste products"....the SATGUR Factory produces NO WASTE....that is the Beauty of GURBANI in the Satgur SGGS...it is the PARAS that has the ABILITY to make US ordinary humans into PARAS...</p><p></p><p>Pardon me if i hurt anyones feelings...no offense meant or taken as always...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gyani Jarnail Singh, post: 92904, member: 189"] As usual ( must be Guru Jis Kirpa....nothing less ) Antonia Ji has managed to grasp the gust of wind.... YES this is definitely two sides of the same coin....Kabir Ji says "DONT",,and Dhanana Ji says..I DIDNT. 2. On whether such stories/fables should or shouldnt be.... I always try and discover everything inside GURBANI itself. We need to focus and firmly beleive that any "question" asked in Gurbani..will definitley be ANSWERED in Gurbani...it may occur 500 pannahs later...it may be right at the end...BUT its THERE all right. We dont need any extraneous stories to explain the Message. The danger in such is that stories being of "entertainment" value...leave a lasting impression in childish minds...there is a danger that the mind may then demand more stories in order to stay "interested". 3. Just listen to a one hour of katha by...Prof Gurbachan Singh Bangkok walleh..it will be solid one hour of GURBANI ....exposition...relevance...linking shabads from all over Gurbani... just listen to say Ragi attached to any Sant matt tradtion'Taksaal etc....and it will be 55 minutes of stories..sayings/quotes of this Baba ji/that mahapurash Ji..and maybe if we are lucky he may have a single line of GURBANI of about 5 minutes ( that also just singing the shabad - incomplete one). There is a saying..a Female Goat gives MILK...but most frequently will somehow or other manage to put MEENGGANNAH into it. Imho i regard sich stories as meenggnnah in MILK of Gurbani related expositions/expalnations. Thus my students get ONLY Gurbani and NO STORIES. 5. In the above example....my students will ask...How did Dhanna Ji KNOW about his past lives ?? Did Kabir also know..did Guru nanak ji also know..Have all of them also written about it..why didnt Kabir Ji tell us about His Previous lives...does any Sant baba Mahapurash brahmgiani LIVING TODAY KNOW about his past life/lives ?? On Kabir Ji there is No problem...because the Sikh GURU Sahib also says the EXACT SAME THING...Gobind millan ke eh teri barreah..THIS IS THE ONLY chance to meet your Gobind !!..not once but thousands of times..... 5. On the sandalwood....the Sikh GURU SAHIB...SATGUR is PARAS... Paras is the mythical stone that by its touch turns substances into GOLD. But NO "PARAS" can turn another stone INTO a another PARAS...just [B]GOLD[/B] only.... The SATGUR is a PARAS that makes others into PARAS...!!!! An ordinary factory produces "goods".....the Sikh Satgur Factory produces other FACTORIES !!! Other Factories also produce "waste products"....the SATGUR Factory produces NO WASTE....that is the Beauty of GURBANI in the Satgur SGGS...it is the PARAS that has the ABILITY to make US ordinary humans into PARAS... Pardon me if i hurt anyones feelings...no offense meant or taken as always... [/QUOTE]
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