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Gurbani (14-53)
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Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
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Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
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Thintteen (343-344)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
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Kaafee (365-409)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
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Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
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Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
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Suchajee (762)
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Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
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Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
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Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Tejwant Singh" data-source="post: 95210" data-attributes="member: 138"><p>Sadhu ji,</p><p> </p><p>Guru Fateh. </p><p> </p><p>You have talked about the emptiness in many different ways. It does sound beautiful and impressive but for an ignorant like me it sounds nothing but some utopic rhetoric based on some Santmat. </p><p> </p><p>I would like you to quote SGGS to express each of your thoughts that you are trying to say below. </p><p> </p><p>Please keep in mind Sikhi is a proactive way of life whose base is Miri- Piri, which means finding the tools from SGGS to cope with the conflicts of day to day life, not hiding oneself in some jungles. Sikhi is about living and finding Sehaj- Gurmat fulcrum in the maddening crowd of this world surrounded with Maya, not living in a self created bubble or walled inside a cocoon.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> 1. Guru is constantly flowing, you need to create a "valley" within you in order to let his river flow into you.</p><p> </p><p> 2. Your heart needs to be empty. </p><p> </p><p> 3. Your emptiness will be an invitation to your guru to flow his blessings into you.</p><p> </p><p>4. The vacuum created by your emptiness will be filled by gurprasad automatically, because it is already there, you need to be receptive for it. Just like a river flows automatically if you create a deep valley near it. You become a valley, an empty valley, and you will see the river of guru flowing into you with its life and energy. </p><p> </p><p>5.You dont have to do anything in this state of mind. All doings have to be dropped. The very idea of "doing something" comes from the same old memories, that make you believe that you yourself are the doer. Your doing can only give you a false idea, that you are a doer, that you are so great, that you can make things happen. <strong>The very idea of "doing" originates from your ego.</strong> </p><p> </p><p>6.This state of mind is self contradicting, because when you drop all your thoughts and desires, you are actually dropping your whole mind. I called it a "state of mind" so that the people who read my post dont get confused. For example if i straight away say "drop the mind" it will be very confusing to understand. </p><p> </p><p>7. <strong>So how can the gurprasad enter our being? To make the gurprasad enter our beings we need an emtiness within ourselvess.</strong></p><p></p><p>8.By emptiness i mean a state of mind, where there is no garbage thoughts, where there is no cluster of past memories. A state of mind which has no assumptions or conclusions, neither any preconcieved notions. A state of mind which is utterly calm, silent, and collected. A state of mind which has dropped all desires and expectations. Not even a desire of gurprasad, because that too will become a barrier. Just a receptivity.</p><p> </p><p>Thanks and Regards</p><p> </p><p>Tejwant Singh</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tejwant Singh, post: 95210, member: 138"] Sadhu ji, Guru Fateh. You have talked about the emptiness in many different ways. It does sound beautiful and impressive but for an ignorant like me it sounds nothing but some utopic rhetoric based on some Santmat. I would like you to quote SGGS to express each of your thoughts that you are trying to say below. Please keep in mind Sikhi is a proactive way of life whose base is Miri- Piri, which means finding the tools from SGGS to cope with the conflicts of day to day life, not hiding oneself in some jungles. Sikhi is about living and finding Sehaj- Gurmat fulcrum in the maddening crowd of this world surrounded with Maya, not living in a self created bubble or walled inside a cocoon. 1. Guru is constantly flowing, you need to create a "valley" within you in order to let his river flow into you. 2. Your heart needs to be empty. 3. Your emptiness will be an invitation to your guru to flow his blessings into you. 4. The vacuum created by your emptiness will be filled by gurprasad automatically, because it is already there, you need to be receptive for it. Just like a river flows automatically if you create a deep valley near it. You become a valley, an empty valley, and you will see the river of guru flowing into you with its life and energy. 5.You dont have to do anything in this state of mind. All doings have to be dropped. The very idea of "doing something" comes from the same old memories, that make you believe that you yourself are the doer. Your doing can only give you a false idea, that you are a doer, that you are so great, that you can make things happen. [B]The very idea of "doing" originates from your ego.[/B] 6.This state of mind is self contradicting, because when you drop all your thoughts and desires, you are actually dropping your whole mind. I called it a "state of mind" so that the people who read my post dont get confused. For example if i straight away say "drop the mind" it will be very confusing to understand. 7. [B]So how can the gurprasad enter our being? To make the gurprasad enter our beings we need an emtiness within ourselvess.[/B] 8.By emptiness i mean a state of mind, where there is no garbage thoughts, where there is no cluster of past memories. A state of mind which has no assumptions or conclusions, neither any preconcieved notions. A state of mind which is utterly calm, silent, and collected. A state of mind which has dropped all desires and expectations. Not even a desire of gurprasad, because that too will become a barrier. Just a receptivity. Thanks and Regards Tejwant Singh [/QUOTE]
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