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<blockquote data-quote="Ambarsaria" data-source="post: 176380" data-attributes="member: 14194"><p><span style="font-family: 'Microsoft Sans Serif'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Prakash.s.Bagga ji thanks for your post and attempt at clarification. As you will see below your thesis does not prove itself and attempts to make multiple creators out of one creator does not succeed for the three words that have been your focus. Namely, <strong>ਗੁਰ</strong><strong>– </strong><strong>ਗੁਰੁ</strong><strong>– </strong><strong>ਗੁਰੂ</strong>. What you will find is that the matra/accents <strong>“ </strong><strong>ੁ ੂ</strong><strong>” </strong>are used for meaning of the words and not for changing singularity/plurality. Singularity and plurality is determined through associative words linked enjoined to these words, before these words or after these words.</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Microsoft Sans Serif'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Microsoft Sans Serif'"></span> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span></p><p><span style="color: Red">Took out some language that taunted another forum member. The point was made without it. spnadmin</span></p><p> </p><p> Let us look at some example of words in contest that Prakash.s.bagga ji has been raising for years or since he joined spn.</p><p> </p><p> <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="mso-cellspacing:1.5pt" cellpadding="0" border="0"> <thead> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><strong>English Plural</strong></p> </p><p> </td> <td style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><strong>Punjabi Plural</strong></p> </p><p> </td> </tr> </thead> <tbody><tr style="mso-yfti-irow:1"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> <strong>Plural</strong></p><p> </td> <td padma_font_family_property="tohama,verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif" style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਹੁਵਚਨ</span>, <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਇੱਕ ਤੇਂ ਵੱਧ</span></p><p> </td> </tr> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow:2"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> <strong>One creator</strong></p><p> </td> <td style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਇੱਕ ਗੁਰ</span></p><p> </td> </tr> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow:3"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> <strong>Ten creators</strong></p><p> </td> <td padma_font_family_property="tohama,verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif" style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦਸ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"> ਗੁਰ</span> (No relevance in Sikhism)</p><p> </td> </tr> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow:4"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> <strong>One Guru</strong></p><p> </td> <td style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਇੱਕ ਗੁਰੂ</span></p><p> </td> </tr> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow:5"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> <strong>Ten Gurus</strong></p><p> </td> <td style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦਸ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"> ਗੁਰੂ</span></p><p> </td> </tr> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow:6"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> <strong>Calling one creator (Hey creator)</strong></p><p> </td> <td style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰੁ</span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"> (</span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰੂ</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"> ਦਾ</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">, </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰੂ</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"> ਨੂੰ</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">, </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰੂ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤੌਂ</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">, </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰੂ</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"> ਹੀ, ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">)</span></span></p><p> </td> </tr> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow:7;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> <strong>Calling ten creators (All creators)</strong></p><p> </td> <td style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਰੇ ਗੁਰੋ</span></strong></p><p> <strong><u><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">Note</span></u></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">:</span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"> The plural form not in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji</span></p><p> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </p><p> ਗੁਰ, ਗੁਰੂ, ਗੁਰੁ are not result of using accents (ੁੂ) to convey singular to plural. The associated modifying word is what defines the singularity or plurality.</p><p> </p><p> </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">ਗੁਰ ਸਿਖ<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Addressing one Guru’s/creator’s Sikh</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">One creator and one Sikh</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">ਗੁਰ ਸਿਖੋ<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Addressing many Guru’s/creator’s Sikh</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">One creator’s many Sikhs</li> </ul></li> </ul><p> </p><p> Rest of prakash.s.bagga ji’s post I don’t comment on as it is spamming since virtually same sentences he has repeated in tens of posts and all his explanations, extrapolations, conjectures and expounding on these sentences have not stood scrutiny or test of time.</p><p> </p><p> Sat Sri Akal.</p><p> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]><object classid="clsid:38481807-CA0E-42D2-BF39-B33AF135CC4D" id=ieooui></object> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ambarsaria, post: 176380, member: 14194"] [FONT=Microsoft Sans Serif][SIZE=2]Prakash.s.Bagga ji thanks for your post and attempt at clarification. As you will see below your thesis does not prove itself and attempts to make multiple creators out of one creator does not succeed for the three words that have been your focus. Namely, [B]ਗੁਰ[/B][B]– [/B][B]ਗੁਰੁ[/B][B]– [/B][B]ਗੁਰੂ[/B]. What you will find is that the matra/accents [B]“ [/B][B]ੁ ੂ[/B][B]” [/B]are used for meaning of the words and not for changing singularity/plurality. Singularity and plurality is determined through associative words linked enjoined to these words, before these words or after these words.[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Microsoft Sans Serif] [/FONT] [COLOR=Red] Took out some language that taunted another forum member. The point was made without it. spnadmin[/COLOR] Let us look at some example of words in contest that Prakash.s.bagga ji has been raising for years or since he joined spn. <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="mso-cellspacing:1.5pt" cellpadding="0" border="0"> <thead> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> [CENTER][CENTER][B]English Plural[/B][/CENTER] [/CENTER] </td> <td style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> [CENTER][CENTER][B]Punjabi Plural[/B][/CENTER] [/CENTER] </td> </tr> </thead> <tbody><tr style="mso-yfti-irow:1"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> [B]Plural[/B] </td> <td padma_font_family_property="tohama,verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif" style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> [FONT=Raavi]ਬਹੁਵਚਨ[/FONT], [FONT=Raavi]ਇੱਕ ਤੇਂ ਵੱਧ[/FONT] </td> </tr> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow:2"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> [B]One creator[/B] </td> <td style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> [FONT=Raavi]ਇੱਕ ਗੁਰ[/FONT] </td> </tr> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow:3"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> [B]Ten creators[/B] </td> <td padma_font_family_property="tohama,verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif" style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> [FONT=Raavi]ਦਸ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi] ਗੁਰ[/FONT] (No relevance in Sikhism) </td> </tr> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow:4"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> [B]One Guru[/B] </td> <td style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> [FONT=Raavi]ਇੱਕ ਗੁਰੂ[/FONT] </td> </tr> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow:5"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> [B]Ten Gurus[/B] </td> <td style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> [FONT=Raavi]ਦਸ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi] ਗੁਰੂ[/FONT] </td> </tr> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow:6"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> [B]Calling one creator (Hey creator)[/B] </td> <td style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> [B][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰੁ[/FONT][/B][FONT=Raavi] ([/FONT][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰੂ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi] ਦਾ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial], [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰੂ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi] ਨੂੰ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial], [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰੂ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਤੌਂ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial], [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰੂ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi] ਹੀ, ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi])[/FONT][/COLOR] </td> </tr> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow:7;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes"> <td style="width:52.85pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="70"> [B]Calling ten creators (All creators)[/B] </td> <td style="width:115.9pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" width="155"> [B][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਰੇ ਗੁਰੋ[/FONT][/B] [B][U][FONT=Raavi]Note[/FONT][/U][/B][B][FONT=Raavi]:[/FONT][/B][FONT=Raavi] The plural form not in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji[/FONT] </td> </tr> </tbody></table> ਗੁਰ, ਗੁਰੂ, ਗੁਰੁ are not result of using accents (ੁੂ) to convey singular to plural. The associated modifying word is what defines the singularity or plurality. [LIST] [*]ਗੁਰ ਸਿਖ [LIST] [*]Addressing one Guru’s/creator’s Sikh [*]One creator and one Sikh [/LIST] [*]ਗੁਰ ਸਿਖੋ [LIST] [*]Addressing many Guru’s/creator’s Sikh [*]One creator’s many Sikhs [/LIST] [/LIST] Rest of prakash.s.bagga ji’s post I don’t comment on as it is spamming since virtually same sentences he has repeated in tens of posts and all his explanations, extrapolations, conjectures and expounding on these sentences have not stood scrutiny or test of time. Sat Sri Akal. <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]><object classid="clsid:38481807-CA0E-42D2-BF39-B33AF135CC4D" id=ieooui></object> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> [/QUOTE]
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