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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Gyani Jarnail Singh" data-source="post: 142708" data-attributes="member: 189"><p>1. Points to note:</p><p>This "debate" was RAGING just as FIERCLY when GURU Nanak ji decided to settle it once and for all for Sikhs...hence this and other shabads.</p><p>2. STRONG and hARSH Language..FOOLS...WRANGLING..arguments..almost coming to Blows..Violence against the "opponents"....GURU JI also uses STRONG LANGUGE because this subject and its context and OVERBEARING on "religion" demands such.</p><p>3. Efforts at "duplicity..Holier than THOU attitudes, superior attitudes...THEN and EVEN TODAY....</p><p>4. Efforts to IMPOSE ones own Views on the OTHER side...then and even Today ( ..."try and STOP my brothers and Dad from eating meat....).</p><p></p><p>A careful reading of Gurbani will reveal numerous instances where Guur Ji has simialrly tackled issues of "dress"...wearing double dhotis, outer garb, religious symbols marks etc etc to show the exact same issues as in eating/not eating meat...BUT these Shabads dont excite as much..simply becasue..."dress" is an accepted and settled issue..the Saffron robed dont go about ....trying to STOP others form wearing suits/patiala salwars/pants....although a FEW such are slowly gaining ground against wearing ..Jeans..tight clothing..revealing styles etc etc UNDER GARB of Holier than Thou..I ma more religious than YOU types who try to IMPOSE their own narrow views on others..BUT GENERALLY "dress" has been left alone...BUT Not..."DIET" ?? Begs the question why ??..Also NOTICE..ALL DERAS/DEHDHAREE GURUDOMS..Radha Soamis, Namdharees, Nirankarees (fake), Sauda saadh, Noormehal, Ashutosh....110% are ANTI_MEAT !! Have these Dehdharees and FAKES understood GURU NANAK JI Better than Mainstream SIKHS who still support Jhatka/and Ban Hallal ?? ALL THESE DERAWADEES and Human GURUS also SUPPORT anti-SIKH forces, are totally AGAINST SGGS, Panj Piayaras concept, Sikh Khandeh batte dee Pahul, etc etc..Kakaars etc etc...</p><p></p><p>5. DIET is NOT ..."gods choice..his choice..etc etc.." ITS YOUR CHOICE. period. He has provided all and every type of FOOD..its up to YOU to choose. Dont use a LOOPHOLE and blame HIM..or abdicate your own responsibility to read and understand the GURBANI and hope it will all be all right..as its "his" choice..he will handle it..blah blah blah..READ SGGS with OPEN MIND< OPEN EYES, OPEN HEART...and make your own DECISION.japposatnamwaheguru:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gyani Jarnail Singh, post: 142708, member: 189"] 1. Points to note: This "debate" was RAGING just as FIERCLY when GURU Nanak ji decided to settle it once and for all for Sikhs...hence this and other shabads. 2. STRONG and hARSH Language..FOOLS...WRANGLING..arguments..almost coming to Blows..Violence against the "opponents"....GURU JI also uses STRONG LANGUGE because this subject and its context and OVERBEARING on "religion" demands such. 3. Efforts at "duplicity..Holier than THOU attitudes, superior attitudes...THEN and EVEN TODAY.... 4. Efforts to IMPOSE ones own Views on the OTHER side...then and even Today ( ..."try and STOP my brothers and Dad from eating meat....). A careful reading of Gurbani will reveal numerous instances where Guur Ji has simialrly tackled issues of "dress"...wearing double dhotis, outer garb, religious symbols marks etc etc to show the exact same issues as in eating/not eating meat...BUT these Shabads dont excite as much..simply becasue..."dress" is an accepted and settled issue..the Saffron robed dont go about ....trying to STOP others form wearing suits/patiala salwars/pants....although a FEW such are slowly gaining ground against wearing ..Jeans..tight clothing..revealing styles etc etc UNDER GARB of Holier than Thou..I ma more religious than YOU types who try to IMPOSE their own narrow views on others..BUT GENERALLY "dress" has been left alone...BUT Not..."DIET" ?? Begs the question why ??..Also NOTICE..ALL DERAS/DEHDHAREE GURUDOMS..Radha Soamis, Namdharees, Nirankarees (fake), Sauda saadh, Noormehal, Ashutosh....110% are ANTI_MEAT !! Have these Dehdharees and FAKES understood GURU NANAK JI Better than Mainstream SIKHS who still support Jhatka/and Ban Hallal ?? ALL THESE DERAWADEES and Human GURUS also SUPPORT anti-SIKH forces, are totally AGAINST SGGS, Panj Piayaras concept, Sikh Khandeh batte dee Pahul, etc etc..Kakaars etc etc... 5. DIET is NOT ..."gods choice..his choice..etc etc.." ITS YOUR CHOICE. period. He has provided all and every type of FOOD..its up to YOU to choose. Dont use a LOOPHOLE and blame HIM..or abdicate your own responsibility to read and understand the GURBANI and hope it will all be all right..as its "his" choice..he will handle it..blah blah blah..READ SGGS with OPEN MIND< OPEN EYES, OPEN HEART...and make your own DECISION.japposatnamwaheguru: [/QUOTE]
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