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<blockquote data-quote="Binwant" data-source="post: 110050" data-attributes="member: 9560"><p><strong>Re: Meat and Eggs</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: red">I want to reply on the following comment:</span></p><p> </p><p><em><strong>"Meat and Eggs</strong> </em></p><p><em>Except my father, we as a family don't eat meat or eggs. I know that the Guru Granth doesn't talk much about meat/eggs. If anyone can express there Philosopy on it, I would appericiate it."</em></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red">I guess you are not aware that Guru Granth Sahib Ji talks about not eating meat and alcohol. <span style="color: #ff0000">Sri Guru Granth Sahib prohibits eating animal flesh in clear-cut and unambiguous language in a number of places.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Please read the following shabads and the panna and its meaning is also given along with them...</span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">"Jee Badhoh So Dharam Kar Thaapoh, Adharam Kaho Kat Bhai.</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Anpas Ko Munwar Kar Thaapoh, Kaa Ko Kaho Kasaaee."</span></strong></span></span></strong> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">(Panna 1103)</span></strong></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">You kill animals and call it religion (Rahit); then what indeed is irreligion (Kurahit)? Even then you</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">consider yourself as a sage of sages; then whom to call a butcher?</span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">"Bed Parhey Mukh Mitthee Baani.</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Jeeaan KUHAT Na Sangey Paraanee" (Panna 201)</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>He (Pandit) recites the Vedas very sweetly, but he does not hesitate to kill life.</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">"Abhakhya Ka Kuthha Bakra Khanaa.</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Choukay Upar Kisey Na Jaanaa" (Panna 472)</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>They eat the meat obtained while uttering the unspeakable word (referring to Qalima of the Muslims which the hindus considered as unspeakable) and allow none to enter their kitchen square.</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">"Bed Kateb Kaho Mat Jhoothhay, jhoothhaa jo Na Bichaarey. </span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Jo Sabh Meh Ek Khudai Kahat Ho, Tio Kio Murghi Maarey" (Panna 1350)</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>Do not call various religious texts false. False is one who gives no thought to their contents. If you consider God is in all, then why you slaughter the chicken (i.e. life?)</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">"Rojaa Dharey, Manaavey Mlah, Svaadat Jee Sanghaarey.</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Aapaa Deldi Avar Nahin Dekhey, Kaahey Kow Jhakh Maarey" (Panna 1375)</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>You keep fasts (i.e. religious acts) to appease God. At the same time you slay life for your relish. This utter selfishness is nothing but empty or nonsensical talk.</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">"Kabir Jee Jo Maareh Jor Kar, Kaahtey Heh Ju Halaal.</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Dafter Daee Jab Kaadh Hai, Hoegaa Kaun Havaal" (Panna 1375)</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>Whosoever slays life by force and call it sanctified; What will be his fate when he will be called to account for it in His Court?</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">"Kabir Khoob Khanna Khichri, Ja Meh Amrit Lon Heraa</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">rotee Kaarney Galaa Kataavey Kon" (Panna 1374)</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>Blessed is the simple of food of rice mixed with salt; Who would risk his head to be slain hereafter, for the meat one eats here?</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">"Kabir Bhaang, Mach Iiii Surapaan Jo Jo Praanee Khahey.</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Tirath, Barat, Nem Kiaye Te Sabhay Rasaatal Jahey" (Panna 1377)</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>Whosoever eats flesh, fish, etc. and takes wine and hemp, all his religious acts will go to waste.</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>I hope the above shabads will answer your question.</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>Gur Fateh!</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>Binwant</strong></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Binwant, post: 110050, member: 9560"] [b]Re: Meat and Eggs[/b] [COLOR=red]I want to reply on the following comment:[/COLOR] [I][B]"Meat and Eggs[/B] [/I] [I]Except my father, we as a family don't eat meat or eggs. I know that the Guru Granth doesn't talk much about meat/eggs. If anyone can express there Philosopy on it, I would appericiate it."[/I] [COLOR=red]I guess you are not aware that Guru Granth Sahib Ji talks about not eating meat and alcohol. [COLOR=#ff0000]Sri Guru Granth Sahib prohibits eating animal flesh in clear-cut and unambiguous language in a number of places.[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]Please read the following shabads and the panna and its meaning is also given along with them...[/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]"Jee Badhoh So Dharam Kar Thaapoh, Adharam Kaho Kat Bhai.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [B][FONT=Verdana]Anpas Ko Munwar Kar Thaapoh, Kaa Ko Kaho Kasaaee."[/FONT][/B][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][B][FONT=Verdana](Panna 1103)[/FONT][/B] [COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]You kill animals and call it religion (Rahit); then what indeed is irreligion (Kurahit)? Even then you consider yourself as a sage of sages; then whom to call a butcher?[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]"Bed Parhey Mukh Mitthee Baani.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Jeeaan KUHAT Na Sangey Paraanee" (Panna 201)[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B]He (Pandit) recites the Vedas very sweetly, but he does not hesitate to kill life.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]"Abhakhya Ka Kuthha Bakra Khanaa.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Choukay Upar Kisey Na Jaanaa" (Panna 472)[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B]They eat the meat obtained while uttering the unspeakable word (referring to Qalima of the Muslims which the hindus considered as unspeakable) and allow none to enter their kitchen square.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B] [/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]"Bed Kateb Kaho Mat Jhoothhay, jhoothhaa jo Na Bichaarey. [/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Jo Sabh Meh Ek Khudai Kahat Ho, Tio Kio Murghi Maarey" (Panna 1350)[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B]Do not call various religious texts false. False is one who gives no thought to their contents. If you consider God is in all, then why you slaughter the chicken (i.e. life?)[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]"Rojaa Dharey, Manaavey Mlah, Svaadat Jee Sanghaarey.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Aapaa Deldi Avar Nahin Dekhey, Kaahey Kow Jhakh Maarey" (Panna 1375)[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B]You keep fasts (i.e. religious acts) to appease God. At the same time you slay life for your relish. This utter selfishness is nothing but empty or nonsensical talk.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]"Kabir Jee Jo Maareh Jor Kar, Kaahtey Heh Ju Halaal.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Dafter Daee Jab Kaadh Hai, Hoegaa Kaun Havaal" (Panna 1375)[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B]Whosoever slays life by force and call it sanctified; What will be his fate when he will be called to account for it in His Court?[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]"Kabir Khoob Khanna Khichri, Ja Meh Amrit Lon Heraa[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]rotee Kaarney Galaa Kataavey Kon" (Panna 1374)[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B]Blessed is the simple of food of rice mixed with salt; Who would risk his head to be slain hereafter, for the meat one eats here?[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]"Kabir Bhaang, Mach Iiii Surapaan Jo Jo Praanee Khahey.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Tirath, Barat, Nem Kiaye Te Sabhay Rasaatal Jahey" (Panna 1377)[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/B][COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B]Whosoever eats flesh, fish, etc. and takes wine and hemp, all his religious acts will go to waste.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B][/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B]I hope the above shabads will answer your question.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B][/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B]Gur Fateh![/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B]Binwant[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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