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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Gyani Jarnail Singh" data-source="post: 150881" data-attributes="member: 189"><p>The SRM was framed by ordinary Lay men...and today we have a generation of LAW EXPERTS...people who cna naylyse each word to DEATH....what hope do the simple sentences of the SRM have of standing up to such microscopic scrutiny...by English Language experts....people whose First Langaueg si Englsih compared to the siksh who translated the Original Punjabi SRM to "Englsih" as best as they could...people born and bred and raised in the WEST...etc etc...</p><p>The SRM of necessity has a BACKGROUND..it WASNT constructed in a STERILE ENVIRONMENT....it was constructed by Punjabi Sikhs... mostly of Jatt background.. Sons of Sardars...landed families..sikh/punjabi/punjabiat culture influences...sikh history etc etc etc...so MUCH BAGGAGE....of which we have not an iota or slightest inkling at all...</p><p>IF the SRM were framed by those who framed the American Declaration of Rights...it would be different..IF the SIKHS who framed the SRM were asked to frame the Amercian declaration fo Rights..would it be the Exact SAME Document ?? Could the SRM framers write the exact Charter that set up the British democratic institutions..the MAGNA CARTA ?? Could the writers of the Magna carta write the same SRM we have before us today..??</p><p>THESE are the LIMITATIONS we often dont see...I am wearing the "spectacles" coloured by a WESTERN CAMBRIDGE EDUCATION SYSTEM....how can I see the same thing a sikh boy from a rural village who went through the Khalsa School education system ??? OR see eye to eye a SIKH who studied in KENYA...UGANDA...IRELAND ?? IRAN ?? ISRAELI EDUCATION SYSTEM ?? Can the POPE see exactly what the jathedar Akal takhat sees ?? IF tomorrow the POPE and JAT were to exchange posts..would they succeed in their new positions ?? Would the JAT be a BETTER or worse POPE ??</p><p></p><p>The SRM has different levels..the superficial..the secondary...the "unseen but MEANT" level...the "between the lines"...the "understood" level..the Common sense level..the ridiculous level...the DIRTY WATER ENTERS a FILTER..goes through the various different levels....stones..co{censored} sand..fine sand..finer snad..activated carbon..etc etc before it emerges CLEAN and CLEAR....same way to approach the SRM..our MIND must be tuned to enter....and EMERGE at the end clear and clean...fully in TUNE with what the SRM formulators intended..what the GURU intends..the ACTIVATED CARBON that removes all DOUBTS/DUALITY/ODOURS fo the MIND..is LOVE for teh GURU....its been said...<strong>NO MATTER HOW long we WALK on our FEET..we will NEVER finish the journey...NOT UNTIL we give up on FEET..and Begin walking ON OUR HEAD !!! MATHA TEK !!! and surrender to GURU.period.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gyani Jarnail Singh, post: 150881, member: 189"] The SRM was framed by ordinary Lay men...and today we have a generation of LAW EXPERTS...people who cna naylyse each word to DEATH....what hope do the simple sentences of the SRM have of standing up to such microscopic scrutiny...by English Language experts....people whose First Langaueg si Englsih compared to the siksh who translated the Original Punjabi SRM to "Englsih" as best as they could...people born and bred and raised in the WEST...etc etc... The SRM of necessity has a BACKGROUND..it WASNT constructed in a STERILE ENVIRONMENT....it was constructed by Punjabi Sikhs... mostly of Jatt background.. Sons of Sardars...landed families..sikh/punjabi/punjabiat culture influences...sikh history etc etc etc...so MUCH BAGGAGE....of which we have not an iota or slightest inkling at all... IF the SRM were framed by those who framed the American Declaration of Rights...it would be different..IF the SIKHS who framed the SRM were asked to frame the Amercian declaration fo Rights..would it be the Exact SAME Document ?? Could the SRM framers write the exact Charter that set up the British democratic institutions..the MAGNA CARTA ?? Could the writers of the Magna carta write the same SRM we have before us today..?? THESE are the LIMITATIONS we often dont see...I am wearing the "spectacles" coloured by a WESTERN CAMBRIDGE EDUCATION SYSTEM....how can I see the same thing a sikh boy from a rural village who went through the Khalsa School education system ??? OR see eye to eye a SIKH who studied in KENYA...UGANDA...IRELAND ?? IRAN ?? ISRAELI EDUCATION SYSTEM ?? Can the POPE see exactly what the jathedar Akal takhat sees ?? IF tomorrow the POPE and JAT were to exchange posts..would they succeed in their new positions ?? Would the JAT be a BETTER or worse POPE ?? The SRM has different levels..the superficial..the secondary...the "unseen but MEANT" level...the "between the lines"...the "understood" level..the Common sense level..the ridiculous level...the DIRTY WATER ENTERS a FILTER..goes through the various different levels....stones..co{censored} sand..fine sand..finer snad..activated carbon..etc etc before it emerges CLEAN and CLEAR....same way to approach the SRM..our MIND must be tuned to enter....and EMERGE at the end clear and clean...fully in TUNE with what the SRM formulators intended..what the GURU intends..the ACTIVATED CARBON that removes all DOUBTS/DUALITY/ODOURS fo the MIND..is LOVE for teh GURU....its been said...[B]NO MATTER HOW long we WALK on our FEET..we will NEVER finish the journey...NOT UNTIL we give up on FEET..and Begin walking ON OUR HEAD !!! MATHA TEK !!! and surrender to GURU.period.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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