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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 100694" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">How have you concluded that i do not love Gurbani & Gurus?(Quote Mahabir Singh Ji)</span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #c00000">Wow ! Respected Mahabir Singh ji, I feel, either I have failed in expressing my mind or you have difficulty to fetch the idea. Let me clear it again. First of all, let me say that I do not hold such views in my mind that you don’t love or care about Gurus but I feel you are not aligned fully with Gurbani As you know. Many of your posts are having Guru Vakas though I couldn’t read due to fonts but I was sure those were Guru Vakas, that shows that you do love Gurbani. What I said in my post was that” as per Gurbani, one needs to clean the heart first, needs to prepare the heart for it, Guru Nanak stresses on this” contrary to that, you are just saying that you can reach that state of mind where you merge with God without any other efforts” That was the whole point, but sad to say it was missed.</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #c00000">You see the difference in Gurus views and your views about merging with Him ? That is only what I pointed out, nothing more; forgive me if this caused the all misunderstanding.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">“Now tell me does your feelings agree with this statement NADAR UPATHE JE KARE SULTANA GHA KARAINDA . HOW CAN A GOD WHOM WE CALL NIRVER & MEHARVAAN , GET SO ANGRY THAT EVEN IF YOU BEG HE WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU DONT GET ANY HELP OR CHARITY FROM ANY WHERE AS GURBANI SAYS' (quote Mahabir Singh Ji </span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #c00000">Yes Mahabir Singh Ji, I agree with Guru Nanak hundred percent because Guru is expressing God’s power not animosity. Now lets look at that complete Guru Vaak it is 472 SGGS</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%89%E0%A9%9C%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਉੜੀ</span> </a></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span> <span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਚਿਤੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅੰਦਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਭੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵੇਖਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਦਰੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੇਠਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਚਲਾਇਦਾ</span> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span> <span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A1%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%88%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਡਿਆਈਆ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਮ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਾਇਦਾ</span> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span> <span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A1%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਡਹੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A1%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਡਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A1" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਡ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੇਦਨੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿਰੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧੰਧੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲਾਇਦਾ</span> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span> <span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਦਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%A0%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਉਪਠੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੁਲਤਾਨਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਘਾਹੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਾਇਦਾ</span> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span> <span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੰਗਨਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਿਖ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਾਇਦਾ</span> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧੬</span></span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span> </span>[/FONT]</p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Pa▫oṛī.</span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"> Cẖiṯai anḏar sabẖ ko vekẖ naḏrī heṯẖ cẖalā▫iḏā.[/FONT] Āpe ḏe vaḏi▫ā▫ī▫ā āpe hī karam karā▫iḏā.[/FONT] vadahu vadā vad meḏnī sire sir ḏẖanḏẖai lā▫iḏā.[/FONT] Naḏar upṯẖī je kare sulṯānā gẖāhu karā▫iḏā.[/FONT] Ḏar mangan bẖikẖ na pā▫iḏā. ||16||[/FONT] </span>[/FONT]</p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In Essence: All are in His mind; he watches and moves them under His glance. He Himself grants glory and causes others to act. God is great and great is His creation (Earth=world) and he puts everyone in to work. If it displeases Him, He can make the King (Powerful) to eat grace ( or meager diet) .Even if they beg, they may not get any alms(if He wills so) </span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #c00000">. History verifies how kings were reduced to nothing, it all happened under His Ordinance. You are judging Guru in wrong way, Guru Nanak is not describing God to be an entity holding any grudge( Vair Vala). Raja Harish Chandra’s story was very popular, he was reduced to a servant, and even he was pushed to eat grass. This Guru Vaak expresses the infinite power not enmity as you understand(that was a reference). You just stuck with a word” nadr upthee” That’s I all. I am sorry, this a wrong way to disagree with the Guru without understanding the context of the said Guru Vaak.</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #c00000">So once I again, I agree with Guru Nanak hundred percent and refute your accusation of calling Guru Nanak “defining God as with enmity”</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">if you have found all answers in <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/guru-granth-sahib/" target="_blank">Guru Granth Sahib</a> ji i am so happy with you. i regard the reverence & love youh have. Dont consider that i do not love my Gurus. when a son does not agree with his father it does not mean that son does not love his father or leaves the home . i am not going to leave the home of sikhism. i have recieved a lot & i cherish that.( Quote Mahabir Singh Ji)</span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #c00000">I never intended to portray you otherwise, and I leave to son and father and humbly request son (you )not inspire other sons to do so because I have found your disagreement based on sheer misunderstanding of “father’s (Gurus)words”</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Let me tell you this i respect all my gurus & all those who have contributed in Sri Grant Sahib but no body <u>is bigger than Akal purakh. Akal purakh is my true Guru. who guides me through my inner voice,</u></span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #c00000">Here you are contradicting. All who contributed in SGGS Ji, had experience of God, how come God fail them but speak rightfully through you only? They are not there to be addressed as bigger than God but to share what God told them just as you are saying what He is telling you, to prove it let me quote your own words</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">“Agin please understand whatever views i have expressed so far or will express in furure will be those of Akal purakh & not mine. i am not body. – quote by Meharban Singh Ji”</span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #c00000">Gurbani was revealed as per Guru Nannak, it was God who said all Gurbani to Guru Nanak and you also claim what you say is God's word., How can you question God who is the biggest of all (He spoke through Guru Nanak) without even understanding its context?</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #c00000">Respected Mahabir Singh Ji, take a deep breath and try to understand what actually was asked. I expressed my position, that doesn’t mean I question your experience. Guru is my refuge, I never felt to read other books to receive energy to merge with Him; I see none of Guru’s word contradictory or questionable as I look at them. How you deal with Gurbani, its your own choice. If you come up with other Guru Vakas with your disagreement, I shall clear that too.</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #c00000">Hope I haven’t used any word to displease you but I needed to clear something bothered you and question your disagreement with Guru Nanak based on total misunderstanding.</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #c00000">Thanks again for sharing your views.</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #c00000">With regards</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #c00000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">G Singh</span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 100694, member: 5889"] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]How have you concluded that i do not love Gurbani & Gurus?(Quote Mahabir Singh Ji)[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#c00000]Wow ! Respected Mahabir Singh ji, I feel, either I have failed in expressing my mind or you have difficulty to fetch the idea. Let me clear it again. First of all, let me say that I do not hold such views in my mind that you don’t love or care about Gurus but I feel you are not aligned fully with Gurbani As you know. Many of your posts are having Guru Vakas though I couldn’t read due to fonts but I was sure those were Guru Vakas, that shows that you do love Gurbani. What I said in my post was that” as per Gurbani, one needs to clean the heart first, needs to prepare the heart for it, Guru Nanak stresses on this” contrary to that, you are just saying that you can reach that state of mind where you merge with God without any other efforts” That was the whole point, but sad to say it was missed.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#c00000]You see the difference in Gurus views and your views about merging with Him ? That is only what I pointed out, nothing more; forgive me if this caused the all misunderstanding.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]“Now tell me does your feelings agree with this statement NADAR UPATHE JE KARE SULTANA GHA KARAINDA . HOW CAN A GOD WHOM WE CALL NIRVER & MEHARVAAN , GET SO ANGRY THAT EVEN IF YOU BEG HE WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU DONT GET ANY HELP OR CHARITY FROM ANY WHERE AS GURBANI SAYS' (quote Mahabir Singh Ji [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#c00000]Yes Mahabir Singh Ji, I agree with Guru Nanak hundred percent because Guru is expressing God’s power not animosity. Now lets look at that complete Guru Vaak it is 472 SGGS[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=maroon][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%89%E0%A9%9C%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਉੜੀ[/FONT] [/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3][COLOR=maroon][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਚਿਤੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਅੰਦਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਭੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਕੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਵੇਖਿ[/FONT] 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[/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96"][FONT=Raavi]ਭਿਖ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਨ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਾਇਦਾ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੧੬[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]Pa▫oṛī.[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3] Cẖiṯai anḏar sabẖ ko vekẖ naḏrī heṯẖ cẖalā▫iḏā.[/FONT] Āpe ḏe vaḏi▫ā▫ī▫ā āpe hī karam karā▫iḏā.[/FONT] vadahu vadā vad meḏnī sire sir ḏẖanḏẖai lā▫iḏā.[/FONT] Naḏar upṯẖī je kare sulṯānā gẖāhu karā▫iḏā.[/FONT] Ḏar mangan bẖikẖ na pā▫iḏā. ||16||[/FONT] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]In Essence: All are in His mind; he watches and moves them under His glance. He Himself grants glory and causes others to act. God is great and great is His creation (Earth=world) and he puts everyone in to work. If it displeases Him, He can make the King (Powerful) to eat grace ( or meager diet) .Even if they beg, they may not get any alms(if He wills so) [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#c00000]. History verifies how kings were reduced to nothing, it all happened under His Ordinance. You are judging Guru in wrong way, Guru Nanak is not describing God to be an entity holding any grudge( Vair Vala). Raja Harish Chandra’s story was very popular, he was reduced to a servant, and even he was pushed to eat grass. This Guru Vaak expresses the infinite power not enmity as you understand(that was a reference). You just stuck with a word” nadr upthee” That’s I all. I am sorry, this a wrong way to disagree with the Guru without understanding the context of the said Guru Vaak.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#c00000]So once I again, I agree with Guru Nanak hundred percent and refute your accusation of calling Guru Nanak “defining God as with enmity”[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3] if you have found all answers in [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/guru-granth-sahib/"]Guru Granth Sahib[/URL] ji i am so happy with you. i regard the reverence & love youh have. Dont consider that i do not love my Gurus. when a son does not agree with his father it does not mean that son does not love his father or leaves the home . i am not going to leave the home of sikhism. i have recieved a lot & i cherish that.( Quote Mahabir Singh Ji)[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#c00000]I never intended to portray you otherwise, and I leave to son and father and humbly request son (you )not inspire other sons to do so because I have found your disagreement based on sheer misunderstanding of “father’s (Gurus)words”[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]Let me tell you this i respect all my gurus & all those who have contributed in Sri Grant Sahib but no body [U]is bigger than Akal purakh. Akal purakh is my true Guru. who guides me through my inner voice,[/U][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#c00000]Here you are contradicting. All who contributed in SGGS Ji, had experience of God, how come God fail them but speak rightfully through you only? They are not there to be addressed as bigger than God but to share what God told them just as you are saying what He is telling you, to prove it let me quote your own words[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]“Agin please understand whatever views i have expressed so far or will express in furure will be those of Akal purakh & not mine. i am not body. – quote by Meharban Singh Ji”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#c00000]Gurbani was revealed as per Guru Nannak, it was God who said all Gurbani to Guru Nanak and you also claim what you say is God's word., How can you question God who is the biggest of all (He spoke through Guru Nanak) without even understanding its context?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#c00000]Respected Mahabir Singh Ji, take a deep breath and try to understand what actually was asked. I expressed my position, that doesn’t mean I question your experience. Guru is my refuge, I never felt to read other books to receive energy to merge with Him; I see none of Guru’s word contradictory or questionable as I look at them. How you deal with Gurbani, its your own choice. If you come up with other Guru Vakas with your disagreement, I shall clear that too.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#c00000]Hope I haven’t used any word to displease you but I needed to clear something bothered you and question your disagreement with Guru Nanak based on total misunderstanding.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#c00000]Thanks again for sharing your views.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#c00000]With regards[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=#c00000][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]G Singh[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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